Posts by Eyebrow

Kind of reminds you of the Twilight Zone episode that had William Shatner (and in a later version John Lithgow) seeing a gremlin on the plane's wing, and no one else seeing it.

OOOOOO.....spooky!

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Venting.....

by Bridgette in

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well, i came in this morning, prepared to write a glib little post regarding my astrological findings.

but i find my heart too heavy to do so today.

perhaps its just the timespatriotic fervor sweeps over me.

Eyebrow

I agree it is a shame. Why have so many religions if they are all going to be the same?

At least with the Witnesses and Mormons, etc., they have more of a distinct identity...even if the general population may look down on them.

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automatic weapons and things

by radar in

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as a matter of interest, how easy or difficult is it to purchase weapons in america?.

i see films like terminator, where it appears you can buy anything from rocket launchers to kalashnikov ak 74s.. can someone educate me on this?.

radar

Eyebrow

I cannot have a gun in my house because I am such a klutz, I would probably put my eye out just trying to load it.

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Reasons for Leaving JWs/Fatal Flaw

by patio34 in

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i ran across this in "river out of eden" by richard dawkins (pgs 131-132) yesterday and it accurately sums up why i left jws 9 months ago and, essentially, belief in a creator:.

re dna survivial: 'when the utility function-that which is being maximized--is dna survival, this is not a recipe for happiness.

so long as dna is passed on, it does not matter who or what gets hurt in the process.

Eyebrow

I was told that animals and man became eat meaters only after the flood because all the vegetation had not recovered. Any one else remember that teaching?

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automatic weapons and things

by radar in

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friends

as a matter of interest, how easy or difficult is it to purchase weapons in america?.

i see films like terminator, where it appears you can buy anything from rocket launchers to kalashnikov ak 74s.. can someone educate me on this?.

radar

Eyebrow

If you have 25 bucks you can get a nifty little BB gun at Walmart and intimidate neighborhood frogs and squirrels.

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How Long???

by Xena in

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i have been drifting for about 1 1/2 years now and was hoping that in a year or two i would have distanced myself enough from the org.

that i can actually start living my life exactly the way i want to...aka celebrating the holidays by putting lights on the house, not having to tell my daughter not to say anything about going trick or treating, getting birthday presents or going to cheerleader camp.

but i read some posts in the disfellowhiping thread started by somebody where people have been inactive for 3 years and are still disfellowhiped!

Eyebrow

I "faded" away back in 1998. I married nonWitness the next year, and we ended up moving into my apartment, which is downstairs from my witness mothers apartment about 6 months after we were married. Also, there are about 3 witness families across the street, 2 more 1 more block away, and another around the corner. We have the tree up every year. While we don't decorate outside the house (my mother owns the duplex, so it is out of respect for her) you can see the xmas lights through the window.

I have a son that was only 8 when I got married, so he spent the majority of his life being raised as a witness. It was very difficult for me and him at first, because I did not want to insult my JW family. I told him not to mention to my mother's family for several months the fact he was a cub scout. But then I realized that I was teaching him the wrong thing. He should not be taught to live a double life. He is allowed to talk freely about it, and other things that he is now allowed to do like birthdays, etc. He just does not flaunt it around the witness family members. But he does not deny it either.

This past Sunday was my son's last football game of the season. He had desperately wanted my mom and one uncle in particular to attend at least one game. She would never come because the games are always on Sunday mornings. She and my brother finally attended his last game! My mother enjoyed it, but had to make the comment, how did families who wanted to attend church able to let their kids particpate? (Prior to being a witness, my mom was a hard core Baptist, so religion has ALWAYS been a first with her.) I told her that there were many families that just attended a service at a different time during the day during football season. And I pointed out that even some of the local kingdom halls had afternoon meetings if she wanted to not miss a meeting, but attend a game. To her though, it is vital to be at the meeting of the congregation you are assigned.

Anyway, I was getting a bit annoyed at the whole thing. I finally turned to her and said, "Besides, Mom, I find spending Sunday mornings watching my son play football a lot more fun than sitting in the Hall."

Xena,
Bottomline, you have your life to live. I also live in constant fear of being DFd because of the affect that it will have on my mother. She will be the one to pay the price, not me. While most witnesses I was friendly with when I was active will talk to me if they see me in public, I can live if they choose to shun me. I have been able to start a new life. This is why I have not DAd myself. But NEVER be ashamed of your life now!!

It was bad enough that we had to live in constant fear of never doing enough when we were active JWs. Don't live in the WTS shadow now. Just live your life, make no apologies for it. You don't have to flaunt your new life, but don't make your child think she has to hide it, like it is something to be ashamed of.

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Stupid things that happened as a Witness...

by ballistic in

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anyone got any stupid questions they were asked or things that happened as a witness?.

when i was at school, a kid asked me "if you don't celebrate birthdays, how do you know how old you are?".

*

Eyebrow

Thomas,

hahaahh!! And what about the agonizing decision on where to go on break? There were certain people you tried to not get stuck in a group with because they somehow always managed to get us all agree to the same crummy place...or else the die hard who insisted we didn't take any breaks at all.

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God Holds Press Conference

by Eyebrow in

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i found this hilarious article on the onion.com.

this is a great news satire site.

the link is below, but i copied and pasted it here also.. http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god_clarifies_dont_kill.html.

Eyebrow

Hello, all!

I found this hilarious article on The Onion.com. This is a great news satire site. The link is below, but I copied and pasted it here also.

http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god_clarifies_dont_kill.html

NEW YORK—Responding to recent events on Earth, God, the omniscient creator-deity worshipped by billions of followers of various faiths for more than 6,000 years, angrily clarified His longtime stance against humans killing each other Monday.

"Look, I don't know, maybe I haven't made myself completely clear, so for the record, here it is again," said the Lord, His divine face betraying visible emotion during a press conference near the site of the fallen Twin Towers. "Somehow, people keep coming up with the idea that I want them to kill their neighbor. Well, I don't. And to be honest, I'm really getting sick and tired of it. Get it straight. Not only do I not want anybody to kill anyone, but I specifically commanded you not to, in really simple terms that anybody ought to be able to understand."

Worshipped by Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike, God said His name has been invoked countless times over the centuries as a reason to kill in what He called "an unending cycle of violence."

"I don't care how holy somebody claims to be," God said. "If a person tells you it's My will that they kill someone, they're wrong. Got it? I don't care what religion you are, or who you think your enemy is, here it is one more time: No killing, in My name or anyone else's, ever again."

The press conference came as a surprise to humankind, as God rarely intervenes in earthly affairs. As a matter of longstanding policy, He has traditionally left the task of interpreting His message and divine will to clerics, rabbis, priests, imams, and Biblical scholars. Theologians and laymen alike have been given the task of pondering His ineffable mysteries, deciding for themselves what to do as a matter of faith. His decision to manifest on the material plane was motivated by the deep sense of shock, outrage, and sorrow He felt over the Sept. 11 violence carried out in His name, and over its dire potential ramifications around the globe.

"I tried to put it in the simplest possible terms for you people, so you'd get it straight, because I thought it was pretty important," said God, called Yahweh and Allah respectively in the Judaic and Muslim traditions. "I guess I figured I'd left no real room for confusion after putting it in a four-word sentence with one-syllable words, on the tablets I gave to Moses. How much more clear can I get?"

"But somehow, it all gets twisted around and, next thing you know, somebody's spouting off some nonsense about, 'God says I have to kill this guy, God wants me to kill that guy, it's God's will,'" God continued. "It's not God's will, all right? News flash: 'God's will' equals 'Don't murder people.'"

Worse yet, many of the worst violators claim that their actions are justified by passages in the Bible, Torah, and Qur'an.

"To be honest, there's some contradictory stuff in there, okay?" God said. "So I can see how it could be pretty misleading. I admit it—My bad. I did My best to inspire them, but a lot of imperfect human agents have misinterpreted My message over the millennia. Frankly, much of the material that got in there is dogmatic, doctrinal bullshit. I turn My head for a second and, suddenly, all this stuff about homosexuality gets into Leviticus, and everybody thinks it's God's will to kill gays. It absolutely drives Me up the wall."

God praised the overwhelming majority of His Muslim followers as "wonderful, pious people," calling the perpetrators of the Sept. 11 attacks rare exceptions.

"This whole medieval concept of the jihad, or holy war, had all but vanished from the Muslim world in, like, the 10th century, and with good reason," God said. "There's no such thing as a holy war, only unholy ones. The vast majority of Muslims in this world reject the murderous actions of these radical extremists, just like the vast majority of Christians in America are pissed off over those two bigots on The 700 Club."

Continued God, "Read the book: 'Allah is kind, Allah is beautiful, Allah is merciful.' It goes on and on that way, page after page. But, no, some assholes have to come along and revive this stupid holy-war crap just to further their own hateful agenda. So now, everybody thinks Muslims are all murderous barbarians. Thanks, Taliban: 1,000 years of pan-Islamic cultural progress down the drain."

God stressed that His remarks were not directed exclusively at Islamic extremists, but rather at anyone whose ideological zealotry overrides his or her ability to comprehend the core message of all world religions.

"I don't care what faith you are, everybody's been making this same mistake since the dawn of time," God said. "The Muslims massacre the Hindus, the Hindus massacre the Muslims. The Buddhists, everybody massacres the Buddhists. The Jews, don't even get me started on the hardline, right-wing, Meir Kahane-loving Israeli nationalists, man. And the Christians? You people believe in a Messiah who says, 'Turn the other cheek,' but you've been killing everybody you can get your hands on since the Crusades."

Growing increasingly wrathful, God continued: "Can't you people see? What are you, morons? There are a ton of different religious traditions out there, and different cultures worship Me in different ways. But the basic message is always the same: Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Shintoism... every religious belief system under the sun, they all say you're supposed to love your neighbors, folks! It's not that hard a concept to grasp."

"Why would you think I'd want anything else? Humans don't need religion or God as an excuse to kill each other—you've been doing that without any help from Me since you were freaking apes!" God said. "The whole point of believing in God is to have a higher standard of behavior. How obvious can you get?"

"I'm talking to all of you, here!" continued God, His voice rising to a shout. "Do you hear Me? I don't want you to kill anybody. I'm against it, across the board. How many times do I have to say it? Don't kill each other anymore—ever! I'm fucking serious!"

Upon completing His outburst, God fell silent, standing quietly at the podium for several moments. Then, witnesses reported, God's shoulders began to shake, and He wept.

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Ultimate JW Moron...or is that an oxymoron??

by kevin221 in

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things that make you go hmmm???.

i guess it's a good thing my trip to greece has been postponed.. as i suspected jons' father is disputing his will.

i'm not surprised, just irritated that i have to deal with this non person for one more day than neccesary.

Eyebrow

His father is a boob. Unfortunately, there are boobs in all religions, and I have even known an an atheist boob or two.

I don't agree with the JWs...but it makes me even squirm that this boob makes them look even worse than most of them are.

Good luck with everything. Thank goodness Jon took care of his will so his dad won't have much recourse.