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Favorite Guitar players?
by Seven inhere's my 10: eric clapton, jimi hendrix, bb king, stevie ray vaughn,.
eddie van halen, george thorogood, johnny winter, rick derringer, jimmy page, brian may.
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Thanks For your Input All
by eyes_opened inthanks everyone!
you were very supportive and helpful on this subject.. <with the exception of the idiot at the end lol>.
edited by - eyes_opened on 23 january 2001 19:40:40
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I just read your letter that you mentioned above larc! You and I are on exactly the same wavelength.
There is just no way that anyone can make me believe that a God of love, would be willing to perform mass murder of innocents. I told my husband <who was raised as a JW too> That if this indeed WAS the true God he could strike me dead now, And that I wouldn't want to worship such a being. <I'm still here BTW...lol><tempting fate>
You are right, I suspect that the sister didn't think my questions were going to be of the philisophical kind, but something that could be easily looked up in the Reasoning From The Scriptures Book, and "corrected" on the spot. Although..... She is aware of the fact that I was raised as one of Jehovahs Witnesses, and commented while she was here, that she didn't think a study would probably be helpful for me, as she knew I was aware of anything that they would tell me <and she was correct on this point> So when I said that I had questions I assumed she didn't think they would be of the garden variety. See what I get for assuming?
I told my husband that I wish I did not think so much. I said I guess I don't make a very good sheep. Being a "sheep" is a much easier route...just following those around you. baaa baaaa! hehehe
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Welcome smart!!! I'm new to the group too, but have been made to feel SO very welcome. There is a great group of people here. Hope to hear lots from ya.
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Thanks For your Input All
by eyes_opened inthanks everyone!
you were very supportive and helpful on this subject.. <with the exception of the idiot at the end lol>.
edited by - eyes_opened on 23 january 2001 19:40:40
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Thanks everyone! You were very supportive and helpful on this subject.
<With the exception of the idiot at the end LOL>Edited by - eyes_opened on 23 January 2001 19:40:40
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Partial reversal of blood ban?
by eyes_opened ini hadn't realized that the wbts has done a bit of a reversal on the blood issue?
i was reading from the watchtower of june 15th, 2000 pages 29-31. the gist of the article <it was a question from readers thingy> is that their stand now is that they still don't agree with complete transfusions but, say that accepting things made with blood parts is a matter of conscience.
well slap my a** and call me sally!
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Thanks Waiting, and Joel....I will definitely take a look! And yes This is indeed a puzzler...never thought in a million years they would back down on this one in any way shape or form. It is rather bothersome the way they are doing it though....agreeing to bits as being acceptable but not the whole...most peculiar. This religion is the true Puzzle wrapped in an enigma, surrounded by mystery. I'm not sure but I don't think God meant for humans to find life this confusing and convoluted [8>]
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Partial reversal of blood ban?
by eyes_opened ini hadn't realized that the wbts has done a bit of a reversal on the blood issue?
i was reading from the watchtower of june 15th, 2000 pages 29-31. the gist of the article <it was a question from readers thingy> is that their stand now is that they still don't agree with complete transfusions but, say that accepting things made with blood parts is a matter of conscience.
well slap my a** and call me sally!
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DUH! just saw the previous posts about this after I posted..hehehe sorry!!!!!!
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Partial reversal of blood ban?
by eyes_opened ini hadn't realized that the wbts has done a bit of a reversal on the blood issue?
i was reading from the watchtower of june 15th, 2000 pages 29-31. the gist of the article <it was a question from readers thingy> is that their stand now is that they still don't agree with complete transfusions but, say that accepting things made with blood parts is a matter of conscience.
well slap my a** and call me sally!
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I hadn't realized that the WBTS has done a bit of a reversal on the blood issue? I was reading from the Watchtower of June 15th, 2000 pages 29-31. The gist of the article <it was a question from readers thingy> is that their stand now is that they still don't agree with complete transfusions but, say that accepting things made with blood parts is a matter of conscience. Well slap my A** and call me Sally! <Checking to see if hell froze over> Does anyone else know of this? If so am I coreectly interpreting the article? Thanks!
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What should the WTBS do?!?!
by LDH inwell guys sorry i haven't participated much lately, i've been really busy.
but, i do have a question that i would really appreciate all of your input on.. it is no secret that young people are leaving jws faster and faster.
it is no secret that most jws are disappointed, and hurt by lack of prophecy fulfillment.. so here's what i was thinking: i'm going to post some very personal thoughts on what *i* think they need to do in order to stop the loss of almost 50,000 disfellowshipped and probably 4x that to inactivity.
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What a great subject! I have read the replies and agree with just about all of them! I wholeheartedly agree with these:
Get rid of the blood issue! It's not right. My husband lost his grandfather 2 years ago because of it, and it makes me VERY angry. Why are organ transplants a matter of conscience, but the blood issue is not? Blood is as big a part of my body as any other organ!
Get Rid of the threat of losing your family, by being disfellowshipped if you don't agree with the GB
And I also 100% agree with letting children having Their Birthday parties. The other holidays don't interest me that much, as I think most are just crass commercialism, or just plain silly.
And ditch the notion that a loving God is gonna kill billions for not being JWs! If This christian god is the true God, and this is what he has in mind...why would anyone want to follow such a mean creature?
Well I could write a book hehehe...but these are a few of my main complaints.
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Almost there......
by eyes_opened inhi everyone, this is my first post here.
first of all, let me explain a bit of my background.
i was raised as a jw from the age of 4 years old.
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Thank you so much all! It is so heartwarming to know I'm not alone in this :) I have read all your posts and appreciate so much all of your input. I'll keep you all updated.
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Almost there......
by eyes_opened inhi everyone, this is my first post here.
first of all, let me explain a bit of my background.
i was raised as a jw from the age of 4 years old.
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Hi everyone, this is my first post here. First of all, let me explain a bit of my background. I was raised as a JW from the age of 4 years old. My family tried so hard to be the perfect JW family, but whatever you do and how much you do, it is never enough. My father has worked so incredibly hard his whole life, and he would struggle to make all the meetings and to go out in field service on little sleep, but it seems that he was never praised for his efforts, but just "shepharded" when he did less. I was eventually baptized...not so much because I thought that it was the truth, but more or less because it was the thing to do....It was all I had known since I was 3. The funny thing is though, it never really felt REAL to me....it never touched my heart. I would sit at the meetings and watch others around me, so into the meetings and wonder what was wrong with me. Why didn't I have this deep conviction and love that THEY had? Maybe there was something wrong, or bad about me. I was terminally guilty about feeling the way I felt. So many things that the speakers said didn't make sense to me.
A loving, father like God is willing to kill billions of men, women and children for not being a JW? A loving god will let billions suffer and die for thousands of years so he can prove his sovereignty, when to him 1000 years is like a day, but for his creatures time moves at a snails pace? etc. etc. There are so many examples I can come up with. Anyway...I still went through the motions. I eventually married "in the truth" <And luckily I am blessed with the worlds greatest guy in the world :) > We went to the meetings, but the more I went the less I agreed with, and the more I grew to feel that something was just not right. Then after a very difficult pregnancy and birth, my somewhat poor meeting attendence eventually grew to not going at all. It was during this time that is felt as if a veil was lifted from before my eyes. It's almost like waking up from a long dream.....I was starting to see things clearly and for the way that they really are!! What a true revelation to know that maybe there wasn't anything wrong with ME!
I now realize that being "In the truth" Is nothing more than being brain washed. When you have a chance to stand at a distance and have a chance to think for yourself for a while, you can see what is actually going on, the methods that are used to hang on to people. To me the most abhorrhent is the threat of losing those that you love if you DARE doubt a word TWBTS has to say. Unfortunately only a few members of my family have shaken free from "The truth" I have had sisters from the local hall calling on me for the past few months, trying to get me going...I can see the pity in their eyes as they try to shepherd this poor lost sheep <can you see me rolling me eyes?> recently, a few days ago I told one of the sisters that I had some questions that have been bothering me for a long time. So she told me to email them to her, as I think she knew it was something that would be too difficult for me face to face. So I finally emailed her a list of my biggest issues with the God that most christians worship. I read the letter to my husband before sending it and agreed with everything in it. It was basically the issues I stated above, plus a bit more. I have not heard back from her yet, but I can imagine she was probably slack-jawed for about an hour...then shut her puter off lest she become "demonized" by my heinous apostate malarky. <Why is it, that a group who is supposed to be so blessed by JH is so dang scared of being demonized?> Anyhow I 'spect I'll have the hanging party at my door within the next few days....sheesh. I'm still not sure what to do If that happens. Does anyone have any suggestions? HELP please....My husband is behind me 100% but I am so terrified of losing my family <parents on both sides, some brothers and sisters, grandparents, etc> It has taken me so long to get to this point...and in spite of my fear of losing my family I feel so wonderfully, gloriously free. The guilt that was constant companion for so many years has vanished, and I can know see a glimmer of the real God who created this beautiful earth. Not the Vindictive, scary creatures that most christians Worship. Any suggestions would be most humbily and gratefully accepted.eyes_opened