risking the flames of the ignorant, let me suggest some reading for all you awakening humans who i have come to love:.
do a search on john edward, he has a site but i am not sure if it is johnedward.com or .org, and he is also on the sci-fi channel(cable tv in usa) and has a site on their page too.
i recommend getting one of his books and watching his show.
Hey there!
I LOVE John Edwards. My hubby and I watch him almost every night. There is no way in the world he is a hoax. He just gives to much information that he could have no way of knowing otherwise. He seems like a really caring guy too. I give hime a thumbs up
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How about racing to be one of the few that got into the second school during the ministry school! <this novelty wore off after about the age of 12 hehehe> Or trying to crane your neck around nonchalantly to see how much time was left in the meeting <there was always more time left than you wanted there to be> Ah the boring old days!
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im new to this (or any) board and id like to introduce myself.
ive been visiting this and h2o for about a month now, and it has been so therapeutic for me.
ive been inactive for about 2 years except for memorial and assemblies and those have only been for my siblings sake to help care for an aging parent.. i decided to join in and introduce myself because yesterday i read ozzies great post on restrictions on march 23 pm and got so worked up by past memories of my experience with dfing and going through the humiliation of qualifying for reinstatement.
Welcome Had-Enough!
Great to have you with us :)
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i know i'm probably being dense here, but i was wondering why in the book of john, at 5:22 jesus says "moreover the father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgement to the son" but then in 12:47, 48 he says "as for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, i do not judge him.
for i did not come to judge the world but to save it.
48 "there is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my word.
Thanks perfect. Appreciate the help
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well i haven't really posted my story here, for one reason it was too painful to write out.
well, i finally did go and write it up.
it's pretty long so i'll just link it.. http://www.geocities.com/veniceexjw/mystory.html.
Wow Venice!
Thanks for posting your story. Being in a position of doubting the beliefs of the WTBTS myself it is so frightening to think of the totalitarian control these people have to wreak havoc on the lives of people they purport to love. It makes me so angry that our God given freedom of thought is infringed upon the extent where even THINKING something contrary to Watchtower doctrine in grounds for disfellowshipping and deserving of the label apostate. To treat people so cruelly and then call themselves christians is complete hypocrisy. I'm glad that you have found this forum Venice, it is a great help.I look forward to reading more of your posts.
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i know i'm probably being dense here, but i was wondering why in the book of john, at 5:22 jesus says "moreover the father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgement to the son" but then in 12:47, 48 he says "as for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, i do not judge him.
for i did not come to judge the world but to save it.
48 "there is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my word.
I know I'm probably being dense here, but I was wondering why in the book of John, at 5:22 Jesus says "Moreover the father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgement to the son" but then in 12:47, 48 he says "As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world but to save it. 48 "There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my word." So in one he says he has been entrusted to judge then in the other he says he did not come to judge. Help?
Thanks
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well as you know unless you are an elders son or daughter generally jw's don't lift a finger to help all those ones feeling downtrodden and lonely.
i felt like this from july 1994 to march 2000. i prayed to jehovah constantly for help to ease the loneliness, i begged the elders and even others.
for a long time the only ones who would talk to me where the elderly ones(who i miss now since i left) i cried every night and felt after five years of being at meetings and feeling invisable (even though i was an auxillary pioneer) i decided that my life was worth fighting for.
Thanks for sharing your story with us Naomi. It sounds like you have had a tough time, but hopefully things will start looking up for you now that you have some breathing and thinking room :) There are many kind folks who give lots of great advice which is a HUGE help.
{{hugs}}
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well as you know unless you are an elders son or daughter generally jw's don't lift a finger to help all those ones feeling downtrodden and lonely.
i felt like this from july 1994 to march 2000. i prayed to jehovah constantly for help to ease the loneliness, i begged the elders and even others.
for a long time the only ones who would talk to me where the elderly ones(who i miss now since i left) i cried every night and felt after five years of being at meetings and feeling invisable (even though i was an auxillary pioneer) i decided that my life was worth fighting for.
Hey Nogs,
Welcome to the board! I'm sorry to hear about the depression that you have been dealing with :( I hope that things get better for you. I too had a terrible time with depression and panic attacks when I was an active Jehovahs Witness. I have been away for about 5 years now <Almost totally in the past year> and in the past six months or so since I have broken off completely from the organization and found this wonderful forum, my depression has almost completely lifted! I think in my case a great deal of the depression and panic came from the feeling that is generated at the Kindom Hall that nothing you do is ever enough! Whether they mean it intentionally or not they press people to do more than Jesus or the scriptures ever intended. There is always put forth the notion that there's always, always more that could be done...surely you can find more time somewhere to read, read and re-read a society publication? surely there's more time to go out in service? Saturday morning? Sunday afternoon? Evening witnessing? Informal witnessing? It is a virtual treadmill...mental and physical that so completely stressed me out there were many times I too considered suicide. And at the time I was so wrapped up in the religion I thought there was something wrong with ME..I never associated the depression with the religion. But you know what??? After being away for a while it finally dawned on me that it wasn't me that has the problem! I know that there are some folks who are clinically depressed and it is a serious illness requiring medication <my sister in law has manic depression and is only several medications> But in my case a GREAT deal of my emotional, and mental upset stemmed DIRECTLY from the great guilt machine also know as Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm not saying that I don't still get blue or stressed out every now and then, but it is SO much better, and that incredible weight that sat on my chest for so long has lifted! I know it is so very, very hard to leave something you have known your whole life,<I have been a Jehovah's Witness from the age of 3> something that you have been told for so many years is the absolute, only way to worship God. But it's not! There's a whole big beatiful world out there full of loving people who worship the creator in a myriad of ways. Leaving the watchtower for me has opened up a new chapter of my life, one where I'm no longer a prisoner mentally and spiritually, one where I am free to discuss what is really in my mind and heart. I wish you the best nogs and I look forward to reading your posts here on the board :)
{{{hugs}}}
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great board.
wonderful to see englishman, and norm in here, and my all.
time favorite : farkel the great.. but, please, who can tell me why the posts seem to.
Welcome Celia!
The post that has just gotten a new response moves to the top.
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the following idiocy may be found at http://www.cinternet.net/~rsmith/pages/illlink4.htm.
angels and the preaching work.
angels are busy today as before (acts 8: 26; rev.
Then there's always the urban legend about the elderly sister who is out in service who approaches a door and is suddenly set upon by two snarreling dogs. As the sister says Jehovahs name out loud the dogs suddenly sit down and becone quiet, sit and let the old woman pass unharmed. LOL
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