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  Has anyone else asked this question about blood?

  by eyeslice in

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  not too long back, when i was an elder still administering the advanced medical directive, i asked a question regarding blood fractions to which i never got a satisfactory answer.

  if a brother or a sister agrees to accept blood fractions then we need to be aware that these fractions have come from donated blood, very often not just a single donation but the result of extraction made from multiple donations.

  however, if i was found to be a source of a fraction that could save a brother or sister's life could i give blood in order to save them?

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  eyeslice

  Not too long back, when I was an elder still administering the Advanced Medical Directive, I asked a question regarding blood fractions to which I never got a satisfactory answer. It went something like this;

  If a brother or a sister agrees to accept blood fractions then we need to be aware that these fractions have come from donated blood, very often not just a single donation but the result of extraction made from multiple donations. However, if I was found to be a source of a fraction that could save a brother or sister's life could I give blood in order to save them?

  It seemed to me at the time, there was no way a witness in 'good standing' would ever give blood, no matter which parts were to be used. However, to only accept something and never to give back seemed selfish to say the least.

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  JW Blood Doctrine Dismembered

  by AlanF in

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  i thought some people might like to see a strictly bible-based dismemberment of the jw blood doctrine.

  for some introductory material, see the thread:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/67949/4.ashx.

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  eyeslice

  Good points in the article. In summary, every prohibition in the Bible against blood involves a creature who lost its life at man's hands.

  Sometimes I wonder if blood transfusions were just a new thing, would the current GB banned them. It strikes me that dogmatic rules which were made long ago seem slightly out of vogue with the current thinking on blood fractions.

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  Starting again at 50 with no friends?

  by eyeslice in

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  no sympathy please.

  generally, i never get depressed and am fairly resilient when having to cope with change.

  all my life, i suddenly stopped everything last december.

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  eyeslice

  hi guys and gals,

  Thanks for all the positive support. As I said at the start, I am not too worried about things. I am pretty gregarious and being with new people is not a problem to me. I am sort that can always strike up a conversation with strangers on a plane and, heck, I disappeared of to a 3rd world country I had never even visited before for a year.

  I see some challenges but you lot have generally been there and done that before me.

  Thanks again.

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  Young People Ask: What is the age of maturity?

  by Nosferatu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the book "your youth: getting the best out of it", it suggests that people not date until they reach maturity, which is usually in a person's early twenties.

  was this enforced at your kingdom hall, or were there jws openly dating younger than 20 (not in secret)?

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  eyeslice

  Another example of double standards here.

  On the one hand, young people are supposed to wait for maturity before they get married but on the other you can be 'mature' enough as young as 8 to get baptised. There was quite a lot of pressure on young ones to get baptised at last years District Convention!

  Different youngsters have different goals and aspirations. The mistake is to try and force a 'one size fits all' approach on people.

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  Behind the Scenes of "The New World Society"----A Spiritual Paradise?

  by Blueblades in

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  in 1954 the watch tower society released a new film,"the new world society in action,"which acquainted its "viewers with the magnitude of the society's organization,its institutions,its field activities,its large - scale conventions, its smooth, efficient functioning and the spirit by which it is moved.".

  what its millions of viewers would never see was what went on behind the scenes.what has happened behind the watch tower facade, to real people, not just in the past, but in more recent years?is it a "spiritual paradise" as claimed?.

  we all know of the way that the society has treated its own behind the scenes,such men as edward a.dunlap,respected registar of the society's gilead school.disfellowedshipped.raymond v.franz,governing body member,disfellowedshipped.william and joan cetnar,disfellowedshipped.william h. bowen ( silent lambs ) disfellowedshipped.. however,are you one of the "nameless others" who gave twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years and more of your life in devoted service, only to be demeaned in old age because you tired of a non - scriptural agender, or dared question the "anointed oracles" of the "theocractic organization".. behind the scenes,alcoholism is prevelant among staff members, there are the distraught wives of the headquarters staff, immoral behavior, suicides, this is kept hidden from the membership around the world.all of it is documented, yet, under threat of vilification and fear of man, many serve with mute obedience.. the new world society in action, is a facade!

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  Willyloman,

  I guess it is getting a bit off subject but it is true elders meeting reflect the more unorganized side of the 'Organization'.

  Before I was secretary, there were never any minutes taken or issued. Nothing ever got done properly because people were tasked to do jobs but then forgot. Often these were quite serious things like a brother being considered for an elder but some 'improvement' needed to made. Next thing you know, it would get round to the next pre-CO's visit, no action would have been done, so the poor guy gets overlooked once again.

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  Whats your biggest fear?

  by ScoobySnax in

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  seriously....what is your biggest fear?

  when its late at night and you lay there in bed, what worries you the most?

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  eyeslice

  Being outside the Society but not having an avenue into which to channel my search for spirituality and humanity. (Not out enough yet to risk being disfellowshipped)

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  Starting again at 50 with no friends?

  by eyeslice in

  1. jw
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  no sympathy please.

  generally, i never get depressed and am fairly resilient when having to cope with change.

  all my life, i suddenly stopped everything last december.

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  eyeslice

  No sympathy please. Generally, I never get depressed and am fairly resilient when having to cope with change.

  However, after being ?in? all my life, I suddenly stopped everything last December. As a good Witness, I never used to associate with ?worldly? people, and now find I have no friends. Starting over again at 50 is challenging to say the least.I have had a number of ?concerned? friends pop in to see me over the past few months but certainly no invites to socialize.

  On the positive side though, I have a very supportive wife and family, even though they are still in. I think they understand where I am coming from. Also, I socialize more with my business partner nowadays and even my wife is happy to go out with him and his wife socially.

  Share your experiences ? good and bad

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  Behind the Scenes of "The New World Society"----A Spiritual Paradise?

  by Blueblades in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in 1954 the watch tower society released a new film,"the new world society in action,"which acquainted its "viewers with the magnitude of the society's organization,its institutions,its field activities,its large - scale conventions, its smooth, efficient functioning and the spirit by which it is moved.".

  what its millions of viewers would never see was what went on behind the scenes.what has happened behind the watch tower facade, to real people, not just in the past, but in more recent years?is it a "spiritual paradise" as claimed?.

  we all know of the way that the society has treated its own behind the scenes,such men as edward a.dunlap,respected registar of the society's gilead school.disfellowedshipped.raymond v.franz,governing body member,disfellowedshipped.william and joan cetnar,disfellowedshipped.william h. bowen ( silent lambs ) disfellowedshipped.. however,are you one of the "nameless others" who gave twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years and more of your life in devoted service, only to be demeaned in old age because you tired of a non - scriptural agender, or dared question the "anointed oracles" of the "theocractic organization".. behind the scenes,alcoholism is prevelant among staff members, there are the distraught wives of the headquarters staff, immoral behavior, suicides, this is kept hidden from the membership around the world.all of it is documented, yet, under threat of vilification and fear of man, many serve with mute obedience.. the new world society in action, is a facade!

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  Blueblades

  Know exactly what you mean. The Society likes to paint a 'bed of roses' picture but what happens on the inside is a different picture.

  I have tons of secular management experience but I can tell you by far the worst, most acrimonious meetings I have ever attended have been elder's meeting. Worldly business 'team' meetings would never be allowed to degenerate into such farces (I actually spelt farces, faeces to begin within but may be no such a bad mistake).

  When 'I stepped down' as an elder, I actually said that if the same situation had happen in my job I would have quit and looked for another job. It took, a while but in the end I just left quitely.

  Outoftheorg

  Again, I can fully understand your anger. Many of us have given a life time and in some cases more in terms of peoples' lives and relationships. I guess we have to come to terms with ourselves and find our own inner happiness.

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  Elders only letter: New Publisher Weight Requirements

  by dannyboy in

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  march 8, 2004

  to: all bodies of elders, circuit and district overseers

  dear brothers,

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  eyeslice

  No way.

  Some of the most over-weight men in the Society I have met are COs and DOs and exCOs and DOs. All those rich lunches and hospitality.

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  Do You Think JW Youths "Do It"?

  by minimus in

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  i think most jws are not virgins when they get married.

  i'll bet the majority have "fooled around".

  what's your opinion?

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  eyeslice

  Mostly, No.

  Despite the fact that the strangle hold is less today and the "end" has been put off in the minds of many, the Society still has a strong influence on the way people behave, including its young people.

  What I do see is young people pairing off at a very young age, many 16 year old girls with boys in their late teens.

  eyeslice