Not yet.
I tread carefully on this issue as I have family still in and I don't want to get disfellowshipped for apostacy! Not been to a meeting for a year now but the ties are still there. Getting myself out has been a big step.
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Has anyone sucessfully talked a JW into quiting?
by JustTickledPink inmy mother doesn't speak to me although she will exchange emails with me.
we actually don't communicate much, but recently i sent her a few emails detailing things are wrong with the watchtower society.
her responses are laughable... but i am still printing out articles and mailing them to her about the un scandle, she of course doesn't believe it.. but has anyone sucessfully made any headway talking to a dyed in the wool jw and made any progress?
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2004 Worlwide Report
by frogit ini have the scanned 2004 report pm me and i will email them to you.
grand total (235 lands) 6,513,132 2004 av pubs 6,308,341 inc over 2003 % 2.0 2004 no baptised 262,416 av pio pubs 858,461 no of congs 96,894 toal hours 1,282,234,887 av bible studies 6,085,387 memorial attendance 16,760,607 memorial partakers 8,570. note the fine increase!.
frogit.
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eyeslice
I suppose on the upside, it seems there are less negatives than in previous years but on the other hand there seems to be more zeros.
The comments on Mexico are interesting - a lot of effort from one country.
If you really want to ponder the "and this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth and then the end will come", have a look at India. Only a 3% increase. Given the preaching work has took over a 100 years in the USA to get from a relative few to a million, or put another way to 1 publishers to 283 of population, at the rate they are going in India they will never get there. Their birth rate is just about that.
Another thought occurs to me. If instead of preaching, 1.2 billion hours were spent working at the rate of just 1 US dollar an hour, think of how many hospitals, schools and other beneficial projects could have been paid for.
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Are people intrinsically good or bad?
by eyeslice inone of the things we were constantly taught as jws was that the vast majority of the world are intrinsically bad; wicked enough to warrant destruction at armageddon.. last xmas, a film "love actually" (sentimental tat really but who says we don't need sentimentality occasionally) was based on the idea that everywhere people are in love and being loved.
also, a couple of tv documentaries shown recently in uk, michael palin's 'himalaya' and ewan mcgregor's 'long way round' had these intrepid travellers visiting remote corners of the earth.
it was striking just how friendly and helpful people can be to strangers.
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Sandy,
What an interesting quote. It seems to me that even the darkness of the concentration camps was the result of a relatively few individuals.
Eyeslice
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Do You Now Feel Liberated Since Leaving The "Truth"?
by minimus ini do.
once you realize how much bondage you were under....it's easy to feel good not having the weights of man made rules.
it's very liberating for me to tell people that i no longer associate with the jw religion----very liberating!!
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eyeslice
Religiously - yes. I am now free to explore my own spirituality.
Eyeslice
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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #122 Why did the Blood card change?
by ozziepost inwell here we are on a new server and it's not too bad, is it!
apart from that, how's your weekend been?
a highlight for us was partaking of a fine cabernet merlot.
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Gives the PO something different talk about at the annual no blood pep talk. Once you have heard one you've heard the lot.!
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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #122 Why did the Blood card change?
by ozziepost inwell here we are on a new server and it's not too bad, is it!
apart from that, how's your weekend been?
a highlight for us was partaking of a fine cabernet merlot.
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eyeslice
It's Ozzie's new idea for a poll - you have to guess the question and post your answer.
My answer is "sometimes but never on a Sunday"Eyeslice
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We walked out of my mom's memorial service
by tyydyy in.
my brother, my sister, myself, xena and those with us walked out when we were called aside and asked not to attend the reception after the memorial.. more details to follow....... timb
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eyeslice
How terrible for you - I am sorry. Unfortunately, this situation happens only too frequently in an organisation that values dogma and rules over people and their feelings.
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Are people intrinsically good or bad?
by eyeslice inone of the things we were constantly taught as jws was that the vast majority of the world are intrinsically bad; wicked enough to warrant destruction at armageddon.. last xmas, a film "love actually" (sentimental tat really but who says we don't need sentimentality occasionally) was based on the idea that everywhere people are in love and being loved.
also, a couple of tv documentaries shown recently in uk, michael palin's 'himalaya' and ewan mcgregor's 'long way round' had these intrepid travellers visiting remote corners of the earth.
it was striking just how friendly and helpful people can be to strangers.
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One of the things we were constantly taught as JWs was that the vast majority of the world are intrinsically bad; wicked enough to warrant destruction at Armageddon.
Last Xmas, a film "Love Actually" (sentimental tat really but who says we don't need sentimentality occasionally) was based on the idea that everywhere people are in love and being loved.
Also, a couple of TV documentaries shown recently in UK, Michael Palin's 'Himalaya' and Ewan McGregor's 'Long Way Round' had these intrepid travellers visiting remote corners of the earth. It was striking just how friendly and helpful people can be to strangers. This has been my experience too when we have visited remote places on our travels.
So, what's the verdict? Are people intrinsically good or bad? What do you think?
Eyeslice
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Jackson's and Boy's Prints Found on Porn Mags
by Elsewhere inhttp://apnews.myway.com/article/20041212/d86tr8sg1.html
report: jackson prints found on porn mags.
dec 11, 10:01 pm (et).
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Whilst I believe in zero tolerance to child molestation and any form of abuse either physical, mental or sexual, I think we need to be very careful here.
First, a person is innocent until proved guilty. Also, we do not know this guy as an individual or what happened in his childhood to make him turn out this way.
Many here have had problems with the judgemental mentality of the JWs; let's not fall into that trap ourselves. We may have neither the talent or money of Michael Jackson but also we have not had the same background; "there but for the grace of God go I"
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Out of Curiosity...Does Anyone Believe Anything They WereTaught??
by confuzzed ini think the question speaks for itself?
while there is much we don't believe, there are some things we can't ignore.
anyone agree???
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eyeslice
I still believe that we should treat all people with diginity and kindness and equals.
This is something I had to teach my children when we lived in India - a society that is often oblivious to its own social inequalities. It is a pity the Society teaches us this but often fails to practice it itself.
Eyeslice