And, as with everything with active witnesses, there is an element of self-deception. When I was in, like many others here, I saw things a lot differently.
eyeslice
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A few questions for all you experts from my long JW meeting yesterday
by AuntBee inhere are a few things that were said that seemed kind of dubious to me.
(i had a meeting with 2 women that came to the door - full story in the thread "i received the knock...").
they baptize in the name of the father, son and holy spirit.
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How Do You Deal With Elders?
by minimus inif an elder or elders demanded that they wanted to talk to you, what would you do?.
if the elders began "questioning" you, how would you deal with them?.
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eyeslice
I don't get too much attention from the elders that I served with for nearly 25 years. As an ex-elder, I think they are all slightly frightened of me.
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eyeslice
My one thousandth post - my milestone before the board closes!
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The"smelly stuff "hits the fan
by wobble inthurs @ 4 p,m bst (british summer time) the p.o ,or should i say now de-moted co-ordinator(i wonder if he knows?
) and a mincer are coming to encourage me.this is the official heavy visit i reckon.
i havn't been to a meeting since about april this year and have been inactive since a year before that.. i do not want to be d'f'd or to disassociate as i have all my family still in,my dear old mum(nearly ninety,in da troof sixty years) right down to great nephews and nieces etc.
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eyeslice
Be careful of questions like "Do you still consider yourself a JW?" If you answer such a question any way besides "yes," they may disassociate you. - Good point
An answer like I still believe in the sovereignty of God and acknowledge in my heart that 'Jesus is Lord' confuses them. They start to think you are a bit of a born again but really can't say too much. After all it is straight from the Bible. -
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BOE letter: "presiding overseer" becomes "coordinator of the body of elders
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inhere's the text of the letter:.
christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
to all bodies of elders.
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eyeslice
I don't know about de-centralization!
The society is craftier than that. They like to lay the blame at the local level when things go wrong but their central 'mind control' has got even greater in recent years. Just look at how regimented the shorten instruction talks and public talks are. The Watchtower study has no room for any individual thought - all the scriptures to be read are specified. Another classic example, of Watchtower 'double speak' is the matter of blood transfusions. Publicly, it is an individual conscience matter between a person and his God. But we all know that internal to the congregation this is not the case; it is a breach of Watchtower rules.
If a co-ordinator is as it says, a co-ordinator, then the responsibility will be to co-ordinate the following of Watchtower rules in the congregation.
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2009 Circuit Assembly Program - Devil's crafty acts in "education"
by truthseeker infor your viewing pleasure:.
2008 2009 keep conquering the evil with the good circuit assembly of jehovahs witnesses.
saturday .
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eyeslice
Though I don't go to any congregations meetings (ever), I do attend the assemblies out of respect for my wife who I know would feel uncomfortable having to be there on her own.
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road to paradise (witness E-mail)
by darth frosty inwarning this is the worst witness e-mail i have ever read.
if you suffer from gag reflex or have just eaten do not read.. .
excellent analogy and reminder for all of us.... .
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eyeslice
It seems to me that in recent years meetings have become a joke.
The society have steadily chipped away at the opportunities for any individuality by carefully crafting each meeting.
Questions for the service meeting item are all scripted, the public talk reduced at 30 mins with instructions to closely follow the outline and the Watchtower study article clearly states which scriptures are to be read (the implication being the others are not important?).
The road to paradise is no longer a gift from God but a set of instructions from the governing body. -
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The"smelly stuff "hits the fan
by wobble inthurs @ 4 p,m bst (british summer time) the p.o ,or should i say now de-moted co-ordinator(i wonder if he knows?
) and a mincer are coming to encourage me.this is the official heavy visit i reckon.
i havn't been to a meeting since about april this year and have been inactive since a year before that.. i do not want to be d'f'd or to disassociate as i have all my family still in,my dear old mum(nearly ninety,in da troof sixty years) right down to great nephews and nieces etc.
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I agree totally with FlyingHighNow. I stepped down as elder then just suddenly stopped going. I have always taken the line that I just couldn't cope mentally with the congregation and the meetings. In nearly 5 years, I have only had a couple of visits. There is no brotherly love or sense of community with the witnesses; just a spirit of guilt and pressure.
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NOVEMBER 1 WATCHTOWER - DOES IT SAY THAT NON DUBS MAY BE SAVED?
by BluesBrother ina certain witness,kind of close to me,is insistent that this article confirms her conviction that the wt teaches that jehovah will judge hearts at the "end" and both j w's and non j w's may be saved ....i say that it teaches the opposite.
what do you think?
how do you read it?.
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eyeslice
This is just another example of 'doublespeak' from the Watchtower 'thought police'.
Of course they speak vague ambiguous words to the outside world but the line they take internally will be totally different. Only Jehovah's Witnesses will be saved - that's how they keep control. -
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Annoying comment in Sep 1 WT about higher education
by penny2 inthere's a box on page 10:.
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what will be the "end afterward"?.
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eyeslice
The whole no further education is a farce. The bottom line id they don't want people who think for themselves - they want control over the R&F.