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  Jesus died on a stake?

  by SwedishChef in

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  you've got to love the watchtower.

  they must think that the general population has no bible available to it.

  while scrolling through a list of their beliefs on the official site, there was one that really caught my eye because of its sheer ludicrousness.

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  eyeslice

  I am still "in" and get all the mags and literature regularly. I detect no shift on this particular doctrine at the moment.

  However, this is not surprising, as in recent years, perhaps since the change to the generation of 1914 doctrine in 1995, nothing much as changed.

  My view, for what it is worth, is that the GB has ran out of ideas or the bottle to change anything. Doctrinally, the WTBTS is dying a lingering death. It cannot defend unsound doctrines and since the Ray Franz incident of the 1980s is frightened of re-examining any core beliefs.

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  Simple math question for dum dums

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you travel a distance of 100 miles .

  and the first half of the trip you go at 100 mph.

  and the second half of the trip you go at 50 mph.

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  eyeslice

  larc,

  As in most things in life things are never black and white.

  Your journey took you 1.1/2 hours, mine took only 1.1/3 but we both travelled half at 100mph and a half at 50mph.

  Problem we have is defining what the half is!

  Given that we probably have both even greater arguements over religious beliefs that we once held with those who still cling to them, this is an object lesson in never being too dogmatic. We are both right in our way!!!!

  regards

  eyeslice
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  Simple math question for dum dums

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you travel a distance of 100 miles .

  and the first half of the trip you go at 100 mph.

  and the second half of the trip you go at 50 mph.

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  eyeslice

  Easy to be caught out here by the wording of the question.

  The answers 66.66 mph and 75 mph could both be correct.

  The difference is on the definition of the first half. I took it to be time, i.e. calculate the the total journey time. Or, it could be distance.

  lesson - always clarify the question.
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  Simple math question for dum dums

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you travel a distance of 100 miles .

  and the first half of the trip you go at 100 mph.

  and the second half of the trip you go at 50 mph.

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  eyeslice

  75 miles per hour

  The total journey of 100 miles takes 1.1/3 hours

  Half that time (i.e. 2 3rds of an hour) is spent travelling at 100 mph - distance = 66.66 miles

  Half that time (i.e. 2 3rds of an hour) is spent travelling at 50 mph - distance = 33.33 miles

  Total distance travelled = 75 miles divide by time in hours of 1.1/3 = 75 mph
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  Where have all the elders gone?

  by eyeslice in

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  2. friends

  in our congregation 5 out of 11 eleven elderes have either stepped down or moved away because of difference of opinions with other elders in the past 2.1/2 years.. is the same happening elsewhere?.

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  Minimus - thought you were an elder at one time. Or are you still appointed????

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  What Was Your Favorite Position?

  by minimus in

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  ....in the organization, that you had?

  did you enjoy being a pioneer or elder?

  did you feel that you "were just a publisher"?

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  I was always happy just to serve, no what the position.

  Life is about caring and giving not about positions.

  I was service overseer, school overseer, book study conductor and watchtower conductor at the same time in a small congregation in SE Asia. However, the love of the brothers and sisters was most important to me then.

  Pity, I have become disillusioned with power seeking, hardliners in the west since then.

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  Would You Marry A Person Of A Different Race?

  by minimus in

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  yes....no.....why??

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  eyeslice

  Yes - no problems.

  I was born and raised in the truth.

  Happily, if nothing else, the truth taught me to be totally unprejudiced when it comes to race and culture.

  I am not so naive to think that inter-racial marriages would not be without problems, but if two people truly love each other, that is the important thing, not race.

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  Where have all the elders gone?

  by eyeslice in

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  in our congregation 5 out of 11 eleven elderes have either stepped down or moved away because of difference of opinions with other elders in the past 2.1/2 years.. is the same happening elsewhere?.

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  eyeslice

  In our congregation 5 out of 11 eleven elderes have either stepped down or moved away because of difference of opinions with other elders in the past 2.1/2 years.

  Is the same happening elsewhere?

  Eyeslice
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  C of C Just Arrived

  by eyeslice in

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  crisis of conscience has just been delivered by mail to my office.

  i wouldn't dare let it be delivered to home in case my wife found out.. i am still "in", so the question is, should i read it?

  and if so, are my days as a jw numbered?.

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  eyeslice

  Crisis of Conscience has just been delivered by mail to my office. I wouldn't dare let it be delivered to home in case my wife found out.

  I am still "in", so the question is, should I read it? And if so, are my days as a JW numbered?

  Eyeslice
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  How to Know God - Stage Two

  by eyeslice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the second of deepak chopra's stages of knowing god.

  stage one: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44242&site=3

  stage two:god the almighty (reactive response) .

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  eyeslice

  This is the second of Deepak Chopra's stages of knowing God. Also see:- Stage One: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44242&site=3

  STAGE TWO:GOD THE ALMIGHTY (Reactive Response) If stage one is about survival, stage two is about power. There is no doubt that God has all the power, which he jealously guards. At the beginning of the scientific era, when the secrets of electricity were being discovered and the elements charted, many worried that it was sacrilege to look too closely at how God worked. Power was not only his but rightfully so. Our place was to obey - a view that makes perfect sense if you consider heaven the goal of life. Who would endanger his soul just to know how lightning works? Sovereign Omnipotent Just The answer of prayers Impartial Rational Organized into rules Compared to the God of stage one, this version is much more social. He is worshipped by those who have formed a stable society, one that needs laws and governance. The Almighty is not so willful as his predecessor; he still metes out punishment, but you can understand why - the wrongdoer disobeyed a law, something he knows in advance not to do. Justice is no longer so rough; the kings and judges who take their power from God do so with a sense of being righteous. They deserve their power - or so they tell themselves. As with Macbeth, the wielders of power get caught up in urges that are all but irresistible.

  My comments on stage two: This is the view of God held by the nation of Israel under their priesthood and later under their kings. I also see a similarity with this view of God with that typically held by the Muslim world today. JWs today also relate closely to this view of God and his arrangements. They are carefully organized by clearly defined rules which can never be questioned. Authority, as vested in God's representatives, must be obeyed without questioning at all times. How often is that the account of Korah's rebellion against Moses comes up in the Society's literature? Power lies in a structure starting with the elders and going all the way up to the GB. This gives a stable framework which is a comfort zone for many, but does not allow for any individualism, or indeed, any room for individuals to search for and get to know God themselves.