No. Like other faders here the process is slow.
eyeslice
are there times when you see that you still are under the control of the witnesses?
No. Like other faders here the process is slow.
eyeslice
hey, i'm home!.
i came home from hospital earlier today.
it was great to eat a fried breakfast again!.
Englishman,
breathing is important - keep doing it!
wishing you a speedy recovery,
eyeslice
an open letter to all jehovah's witnesses.
dear friend, .
what caused you to come and read the posts of so many of your former brothers and sisters who have either been disfellowshipped or have chosen to walk away from the society and the 'truth'?
Nicolaou,
an excellent post!
Suzyque,
Welcome and hang on in. The ride out is not likely to be easy but can be made easier by help from all the people on this site.
eyeslice
i have known a few anointed and a few bethlites.
after researching pubilcations and the watchtower websites i belife the faithful slave does not exist in a tangible form and is a ghostwriter for the entire org.
everything is subcontracted from mostly the great crowd now billed as corespondants.
I had an intereting chat with an elder the other day who told me the end must be very near because the annointed have nearly all died off. In his view the most of the 8,000 who partake are not of the annointed (don't know what it makes them then) and the real number is far less.
The FDS idea has never worked in practice. As a group, including women remember as well as men, they have never been consulted over doctrinal issues. The organization has always been highly centralized. The idea of a FDS feeding the household has never been a reality.
eyeslice
lately, i feel more and more disturbed over everything the watchtower stands for.
i can't stomach the jws.
i can't tolerate their pettiness.
Minimus,
I know how you feel.
I stayed in for a long time, thinking I could in some small manner make a difference. Then, I started to distance myself from the Society but at the same time had feelings of guilt that I should be there for those I truely love and care about, and needed my support in the congregation. Now I have the feeling that the whole WT&BTS thing is totally beyond repair.
eyeslice
my god, this is worst than last years.
i'm not writing the whole thing out, but here are some "convention reminders" for this years district convention.. "let us exhalt his name together" page 3. para 4. please bring a lunch rather than leave the convention site to obtain a meal during the noon break.
this will allow all to enjoy upbuilding association and be present from the very start of the session.
This article is exactly the same every year and is just another example of the regimentation the Society wants to impose on the R&F.
I just cannot image Christ wanting to regiment people in such a manner. I have attended a number of assemblies in a very poor third world country and things were a little different there. We all sat outside on the ground. People formed groups of 3 or 4 families, the food we brought was placed in the middle and we all shared. What in meant was that the poorest kids had a chance to eat something they normally wouldn't get. I had a feeling at the time that this was more "Christian" than the regulated manner constantly trotted out by the KM.
eyeslice
more than ever, we use our computers and printers to write whatever we need to write.
it's neat and we can edit our mistakes without anybody noticing.
but on the other hand, we practise less and less our handwriting.
I think that girls are generally better hand writers than boys. When I was at school, my writing was terrible and I was constantly being berated because of it. Then, one day, I simply sat down and made myself write well. To this day, I am still neat and legible.
eyeslice
no - not by jehovah's witnesses.
there seems to be no clear line from the society on how much preaching needs to be done before the "end".
the "stones would cry out" principle is sometimes aluded to but i was/am a little vague on the official line.
No - not by Jehovah's Witnesses.
There seems to be no clear line from the Society on how much preaching needs to be done before the "end". The "stones would cry out" principle is sometimes aluded to but I was/am a little vague on the official line.
If we take the preaching in the USA and assume that everyone has at least heard of Jehovah's Witnesses, this has taken over a hundred years effort in what is basically a Christian, population now 250 million (very approx. I know). Now, take China and India, these represent at least a third of humanity, approx. 2 billion. I know there are Witnesses in China and Indian, but in orders of magnitude, they are virtual non-existent. Besides, these are non-Christian countries and despite quite a large effort post WW2 to send missionaries in, there was none of the explosive growth experienced in Africa and South America, areas of the world already Christian.
eyeslice
what's the deal regarding marriage and marital status after the "big 'a'"?
i was once referred to mat 22:29 where jesus says that resurrected people will be like angels and neither marry or be given in marriage.
but that doesn't cover all the possibilities.. i have also read (but a search doens't give me what i need) that those married couples surviving the big a will remain married in the new system.
The wording of the witness marriage vows is quite interesting as well; ".... as long as we both shall live together on earth under God's martial arrangement".
It is a bit of a doctrinal cop out in that God may at some point in the future change his "martial arrangement". I often wondered if the governmental authorities would ever pick up on that and question it, as secular authorities would not conceive of time when the marriage arrangement would be changed for those still alive on earth.
eyeslice
over at channelc, you can find evidence of one of the valued reasons for having circuit assemblies.. they get to lie and deceive - away from the prying eyes of the public.. apparently, a brother novak informed the crowd that phil.
2: 9-11 - in which "every knee shall bend" to christ.
is a command to obey the elders.
Just to clarify though; it is only COs and Dos who can get away with this at circuit assemblies.
Have done numerous talks at assemblies myself. These are carefully orchestrated, rehersals with at least the CO if not the DO as well. Often, these guys may as well have prepared the material for you themselves, given the amount of changes they often wanted.
Agree about being watched over. I have seen the Society's representative spy following line by line from the official outline, making sure nothing out of line is inserted.
eyeslice