I have that Watchtower... what was the article ?
AlphaOmega
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December 15 watchtower. is the end next year?
by The Lone Ranger ini'm not sure if this has being discussed allready but there was some interesting comments on the dec 15 wt which seem to point as "next year" maybe being the end, i don't have the articule with me but i wonder if anyone here knows the part i'm referring to, if i don't get any possitive comments i'll go and look for a copy of it.
its just more scare stuff.
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JWD Prophets! You called it, what next?
by Wasanelder Once inyou guys are amazing.
for some time posters here have been saying that big changes were afoot and that the "members only" wt would be used to announce this new light.
i admit i was apathetic and thought, ok, maybe.
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AlphaOmega
Think of the kudos of being able to see inside the new "members only" Watchtower.
Good point,
But,
We usually get the lastest first on here.
We do indeed . You sir, are a prophet http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/144617/1.ashx
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computer help
by bigdreaux incan anyone tell me what the best program to remove these annoying virisus off my computer is?
i can barely use it now without getting pissed off.
ads are popping up every 15 seconds and stuff keeps changing on my computer.
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AlphaOmega
Yes... AVG is good as JohnDoe said... also you could try FreeAntVir - I like that one.
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Anyone else get baptised at BOWES ROAD North London?
by nicolaou inare you my bowes rd buddy?.
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AlphaOmega
No... but Bowes Road is the "local" Assembly Hall.
Been there once... it was an old cinema wasn't it ?
The newsagent next door has a wide range of literature holders and that sort of stuff for sale... and they have cottoned onto the fact that everyone piles out of the hall at lunchtime - so they sell tea and coffee too.
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Disfellowship Reversal ?
by AlphaOmega ini have read of some annecdotal evidence that in a few cases, a disfellowshipping can be reversed.. this has applied in the case of not following the correct procedure and other circumstances.. can anyone provide any links or scans or stories of this happening ?.
i believe that there is a case that was mentioned in the watchtower of two missionaries that were wrongly disfellowshipped and had it revoked.. many many thanks,.
ao.
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AlphaOmega
Wow... thank you all for the responses so far :
wha happened?
Jim_TX
sweetface2233
SironaMany thanks to Atlantis for the scans.
Fleaman UK... It sounds amazing doesn't it ? I hope it's true. Apparantly, the story was in the last 10 years or so. So it must be on the CD... I couldn't find it, but when I have some more time I'll have a longer poke through the CD.
I have no idea why they'd put it in print either.
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Disfellowship Reversal ?
by AlphaOmega ini have read of some annecdotal evidence that in a few cases, a disfellowshipping can be reversed.. this has applied in the case of not following the correct procedure and other circumstances.. can anyone provide any links or scans or stories of this happening ?.
i believe that there is a case that was mentioned in the watchtower of two missionaries that were wrongly disfellowshipped and had it revoked.. many many thanks,.
ao.
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AlphaOmega
Hello all !
I have read of some annecdotal evidence that in a few cases, a disfellowshipping can be reversed.
This has applied in the case of not following the correct procedure and other circumstances.
Can anyone provide any links or scans or stories of this happening ?
I believe that there is a case that was mentioned in the Watchtower of two missionaries that were WRONGLY disfellowshipped and had it revoked.
Many many thanks,
AO
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APOSTASCOTLAND
by Dansk inwould someone seriously consider arranging for an apostafest up in scotland next year?
i know i'm asking this early but i feel it would be good to put the feelers out now.. obviously, it would have to be a location easy to get to - so that means stornoway is out!
sorry, ross & xena.
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AlphaOmega
Depends on the actual weekend... but YES... count me in. Look forward to hearing the date.
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Quick Q re: "This Generation"
by Sirona inbreakthrough!.
i spoke to my jw mum about the new watchtower study magazine and how in the first issue there is a change in "light" regarding the anointed.. she was floored and totally accepted that if they started to accept new anointed ones (non-replacements) that it *could* indicate that the society are extending the time once again regarding the coming of armageddon.
the idea is that if they accept new anointed ones, then they could be fairly young, hence they could still be around for a lot more years!.
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AlphaOmega
I'm talking about the new edition Watchtower and the study article which says that the anointed are STILL being called.
Sirona
Ah... I see. I was hoping that you'd spotted something about "This Generation" in there... I guess we'll have to wait for that one.
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Help me, this new light confuses me....
by dawg inok, so if they change the rules and allow everyone who feels the spirit to partake of the memorial then that means that there may be no limit on how many are sealed.... am i right?
if thats' true then ther's no longer a 144k?
if that's true, what does that mean about the great crowd?.
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AlphaOmega
KW13 -
haha, mum the other day in a discussion was saying how the anointed had the holy spirit in a different way
That what they wanted people to think - but they seem to have shot themselves in the foot with this line. Now they just want all people to bow and scrape to the slave !
Take a look here : http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/133188/1.ashx
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Help me, this new light confuses me....
by dawg inok, so if they change the rules and allow everyone who feels the spirit to partake of the memorial then that means that there may be no limit on how many are sealed.... am i right?
if thats' true then ther's no longer a 144k?
if that's true, what does that mean about the great crowd?.
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AlphaOmega
Questions From Readers - May 1st 2007
When does the calling of Christians to a heavenly hope cease?
The Bible does not reveal a precise answer to that question. We do know that the anointing of Jesus' disciples with a view to their heavenly inheritance began in 33 C.E. (Acts 2:1-4) We also know that after the death of the apostles, genuine anointed Christian "wheat" came to "grow together" with counterfeit Christians, "weeds." (Matthew 13:24-30) Then, starting in the late 1800's, anointed Christians were again prominently active. In 1919 "the harvest of the earth," including the gathering of the final ones of the anointed, began to be reaped.—Revelation 14:15, 16.
From the late 1800's until 1931, the main thrust of the preaching work was the gathering of the remaining members of the body of Christ. In 1931 the Bible Students took the Bible-based name Jehovah's Witnesses, and in the November 15, 1933, issue of The Watchtower, the thought was expressed that this unique name was the "denarius" referred to in Jesus' parable recorded at Matthew 20:1-16. The 12 hours mentioned in the parable were thought to correspond to the 12 years from 1919 to 1931. For many years after that, it was believed that the call to the heavenly Kingdom had ended in 1931 and that those called to be joint heirs with Christ in 1930 and 1931 were "the last" called. (Matthew 20:6-8) However, in 1966 an adjusted understanding of that parable was presented, and it became clear that it had nothing to do with the end of the calling of the anointed.
In 1935 the "great crowd" of Revelation 7: 9-15 was understood to be made up of "other sheep," Christians with an earthly hope, who would appear on the world scene in "the last days" and who as a group would survive Armageddon. (John 10:16; 2 Timothy 3:1; Revelation 21:3, 4) After that year, the thrust of the disciple-making work turned to the gathering in of the great crowd. Hence, especially after 1966 it was believed that the heavenly call ceased in 1935. This seemed to be confirmed when almost all who were baptized after 1935 felt that they had the earthly hope. Thereafter, any called to the heavenly hope were believed to be replacements for anointed Christians who had proved unfaithful.
Without a doubt, if one of the anointed unrepentantly falls away, Jehovah does call another individual to take his place. (Romans 11:17-22) However, the number of genuine anointed ones who have become unfaithful is likely not large. On the other hand, as time has gone by, some Christians baptized after 1935 have had witness borne to them that they have the heavenly hope. (Romans 8:16, 17) Thus, it appears that we cannot set a specific date for when the calling of Christians to the heavenly hope ends.
How should a person be viewed who has determined in his heart that he is now anointed and begins to partake of the emblems at the Memorial?He should not be judged. The matter is between him and Jehovah. (Romans 14:12) However, genuine anointed Christians do not demand special attention. They do not believe that their being of the anointed gives them special "insights," beyond what even some experienced members of the great crowd may have. They do not believe that they necessarily have more holy spirit than their companions of the other sheep have; nor do they expect special treatment or claim that their partaking of the emblems places them above the appointed elders in the congregation. They humbly remember that some anointed men in the first century did not qualify to serve as elders or ministerial servants. (1 Timothy 3:1-10, 12, 13; Titus 1:5-9; James 3:1) Some anointed Christians were even spiritually weak. (1 Thessalonians 5:14) And sisters, although anointed, did not teach in the congregation.—1 Timothy 2:11, 12.
Hence, anointed Christians along with their other sheep companions strive to stay spiritually strong, cultivating the fruitage of the spirit and working for the peace of the congregation. All Christians, whether anointed or of the other sheep, work hard at preaching the good news and making disciples under the direction of the Governing Body. Anointed Christians are content to do this for as long as it is God's will that they remain on earth as Jehovah's servants.