regret, anger, frustration?
how about sadness, sorrow, sympathy, understanding, even compassion!.
it can be quite confusing at times, especially if some of those witnesses were your friends.
They came by my house a few weeks ago, while I was working outside. A whole small van load.
While a couple of the men were taling to me I watched the others going to the doors. We have
several homes that are empty (buyers walked away) You would have to be blind not to notice.
They were knocking on these doors, so I said can't they see those houses are empty. It shows
the mindless action of jws. The funny thing is the houses have been empty for a couple of years
up until a couple years ago I thought this was a conspiracy thing untill I starting watching the sky( something
we all sort stopped doing) . Over my area in northern ca. all you have to do is sit outside and watch the
hundred or so planes flying over very high in the sky, and you will become a believer fast. I am a weather freak
and have my own weather station, and two computers, of which I keep on wheather related forecasts.
Even when clear skies are forecast the planes create a very overcast sky by the end of the day.
My friends thought I was nuts untill they started doing the same thing, they are now believers. They ask
me why do you think they are doing that, my answer is , how the heck do I know. I have several
photos that I have taken over the past 2 years, they are proof. The majority of the photos you
see of these so called clouds are not natural.
The planes make many patterns, crisscrossing, circular , back and forth for a few hours,
then at right angles to what is already there. I have several high power binoculars and you can see
tbe spray dispensing from other areas besides the engine. I am like most people , seeing is believing.
man, i always felt like a complete idiot!!
dressing up in a suit riding around with a carload of other "stoopid" people speaking "stoopid" shit!
wtf was i thinking??
I most certainly felt stupid. The way everything was done was stupid. I hated going out in service. I had a scripture
that I used all the time, 1 cor 9:16,17. I told told a lot of the brothers the scripture and it became very popular.
It proved that most of the brothers felt the same as I did . I could just never understand how anyone in their
right mind would enjoy service or meetings.
as i was going to st. ives,.
i met a man with seven wives.. each wife had seven bags,.
each bag had seven cats,.
on the match sticks, pick up one, light it, then set all the others on fire, let all burn up, result 0.
i seem to be drawing a blank, but i can't recall what the the "accepted" translation for jw's was pre-nwt?
if it was the kj or one of the other translations favored by christendom, how did the wts work around the translation errors "corrected" by the nwt?...john 1:1, extensive use of jehovah in nt, etc.
?.
I have in front of me both my old copies of the king james printed by wts and the and the asv also printed by
wts. I was around 10-12 years old at the time. They are still in good shape, which means that I did not
use them much. I still have the original copies of the green segmented versions of the nwt, plus the
first bound together green version. The thing was huge. I prefer to use the king james even now. I have a list
of the older words that I sometimes have to look up.
i try to attend about 3 sunday meetings per month just to keep my whole family from disowning me.
every week the meetings become more difficult to attend.. the singing is awful,the prayers are all about the ''faithful and discreet slave''.the talks are boring and repetative.the watchtower study reminds of trained seals at the zoo where they do the same tricks over and over just so they can get their treat of fresh fish.
the answers are short and read off the watchtower magazine word for word.
I was born into the organization. I hated going as long as I can remember. Each meeting I wanted to jump up and
scream and then leave. I never kept it a secret . I have told several jws that anyone that says they enjoy the
meetings was a lier and that was just the way I always felt. If anyone would say how good the meeting was
or how good the information was, I would ask them what it was all about , I never had anyone that could remember.
I always thought that all the printed material was deliberately confusing. I have allways been good at reading
and comprehension. The only time I wondered about my self was when I read the societies crap. I have deliberately
made great efforts to understand what they are trying to say. I actually know most of the doctrines by heart,
like the 1914, 1918, etc. but have never been able to back it up with scripture. I realized a long time ago
that the only way to believe this stuff is by faith alone.
I quit going a couple of years ago and have never felt better. Even by wife has become very irregular. She
has seen alot of problems now. The longer you stay away the more time you have to clear your brain.
The witnesses still come around, and now I look at how pathetic they are, wasting their time running around
wasting their time and gas, pretending to preach the word and trying to believe in something requiring
faith in a man made organization. It is no wonder that jws have such a high percentage of people with
mental problems. One of their favorite sayings is that god will make avery thing clear. They say that
because they know that none of the stuff makes any sense. God is a logical being . He doesnt expect
us to believe in the illogical.
or did you wish the religion had a more mainstream name?
i can remember a "worldly" schoolmate telling me he wouldn't object to the religion so much if the name didn't sound so weird..
It really was a mouthfull, hard to chew. A relative of mine had his own contorted version, 'hovah jays' .
The ironic thing is that he later became one.
matthew 16:28.
"i tell you with certainty, some people standing here will not experience death before they see the son of man coming in his kingdom.".
mark 9:1. then he said to them, "i tell you with certainty, some people standing here will not experience death until they see the kingdom of god arrive with power.".
This is just my personal opinion, but I have sided with the preterist on this. After reading the works of Josepheus, especially
the war of the jews. I feel that people are looking forward to something in the future that took place before 70 Ad.
Things foretold in the old testament are actually described as happening by Josepheus. The destruction of Jerusalem
was the end. I think all christians should read the works of Joshepheus along with the bible. Things start to make sense
if you do. If you read the book of revelation and imagine it was written before 70 ad then it makes sense.
One of the main reasons I believe all this is because of the urgency spoken of throughout the new testament.
and no mention of the past destruction of Jerusalem. It seems to me that if Jerusalem was destroyed that it would
have been mentioned by the writers..
I have not come to any conclusions on the furture, past that except what is mention in the last chapter of Rev. I just
have a lot of theories. But one thing I am sure of is that Jesus said he would be with believers always.
Of course I came to this conclusion for a lot more information that this . But it I think everyone should research this aspect of
bible phrophecy.
something i keep wondering about.
if we should pray in jesus' name, then why was his name not mentioned in the lords model prayer.
in fact gods name is not mentioned.
Something I keep wondering about. If we should pray in jesus' name, then why was his name not mentioned in the lords model prayer. In fact Gods name is not mentioned. Can someone enlighten me on this.
this relates to my 1981 awake!
thread in the experiences section to a degree.
thinking about those golden oldie wt's and awake!
Several times during the book study I would comment on the big colored box on pg 9 chapter 2 of the revelation book. 'it is not claimed that the explanations in this publication are infallible. Like Joseph of old, we say: 'Do not interpretations belong to God?' At the same time, however, we firmly believe that the explanations set forth herein harmonize with the Bible in in its entirety, showing how remarkable divine prophecy has been fulfilled in the world events of our catastrophic times. I always like the confused look on everybodys face. These type of warnings were in other books as well but they are always just overlooked.
There was another paragraph, which I can't find right now, that said that we should not be speculating on gods word or something close to that. As I told me wife, they tell us that then they just speculate the crap out of it in the rest of the book. This is typical of the society. They can say two opposing ideas at the same time and call it the truth.
That is the same thing they do with the king of the north. They don't have and never will have a clue who it is. They just guess like the rest of the forecasters in the world do. They probable figure that if they guess long enough they might get it right.
