Elders would be women and the WT would self destruct - so maybe men are pawns to help preserve the hidden will of all women?
I've always maintained that's why a pub filled with women has the full Monty on stage - and usually the python does his thing or the man gets crucified.
first i would like to apologize for all the stupic topics.
when i do decide to get serious again....beware.
anyway, i have never been a tv watcher, then in my jw life.....didn't have time.
I simply have here as my substitute life which is why the keyboard is constantly swimming in able seamen as my ship sets sail for lands of hope and glory from my island parasite!
there will be a huge announcement after the watchtower study on the 27 of april.. for what it's worth, this was just sent to me anonymously.. randy.
www.freeminds.org.
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Tongues never had it so good - just keep within the guidelines!
i am a jehovahs witness.
my family are all witnesses.
i am convinced it is not the religion it once was.
The WT whinning society is what it does!
Woe to you!
And may dingos and wingdings fallicitaiouly challengs your phsychosistic narkyness!
this topic is meant as a follow-up of my recent conversation with r. crusoe on different threads.. it seems to me that the current popularisation of eckhart tolle's philosophy, resurrecting what i think is the very core of age-old mystical traditions (to put it shortly: death of the culturally constructed "self"), without the collective mythological, institutional and social settings for such an experience, is potentially very liberating but also very dangerous.. i am sensitive to that because i went through a similar experience when i left jws -- i felt both its empowering and destructive force, and, although i certainly don't claim to have dealt with it optimally (is that an adverb?
), i'm hoping that experience, good or bad, may benefit others, to an extent.
and i'm sure that i'm not alone in that case.. so i'd like this thread to be primarily supportive, even though that may include some theoretical and practical criticism.. .
That is the oddness of nowness = one has to take it seriously to overcome the type of ego that gets up early to go listen for two hours to words about words from ancient humans claiming they got words from the divine reality which real humans claim have a divine link to explain the words they write about the words!
That type of ego is obviously not very serious if you don't take yourself too seriously = unless of course you are an elder, in which case you will ruin a persons life who claims they don't!
So in this respect I think Eckharts egoless 'calculus' is an attempt to help a human regain their psychological Newtonian physique!
Maybe inspector Cleuseau would disagree but I am just pleased not to be in his lift when a 'bomb' is dropped!
i just learned lots of egos live in me!
(many love to pain me = my personal pain bodies).
some love depression!.
The identity the WT transplant into your persona is an EGO!
It is the WT - EGO !
And it is a major pain - body for any person to possess and be subservient to!
It is detached from the true-self (which is free of ego)
exJWs - learning how to divorce yourselves from the WT - EGO is difficult to do - and a painful experience for all manner of family infrastructures etc.
I found the above helpful in releasing some moments of depression about how the WT implant all manners of poisons both into my own mind and that of family - lasting decades! And I recall the same in others.
Their poison is lifelong for many of us - self sustaining positive thought is what I feel to be of use and is why I so far found some of Eckharts thinking very helpful.
I hope you all find strength in your life away from WT damage!
You deserve it!
Hopkins loses!
religious believers clearly have tendencies to make-up "facts" and "evidence" rather than accept true research and admit even the simplest of belief failures.
they have strange ceremonies that are virtually pointless but are said to have special significance or power.. we all know certain 'christians' alive today who are fully prepared to argue that they might never die!
couldn't it be argued that such a reversion into childlike fantasy is a telltale sign of mental illness?
If you are alone - wherever you are - you will be the minority = mental illness by disassociation.
has been killed of!.
it will mean that my role is forever removed from where it was!.
the new me is absent the 'family' it was so ready to support and stand up and fight for!.
You misunderstand Caliber - maybe lengthy listening to Tolles youtube posts will offer insight - search pain bodies - it will help you see how the WT give followers a compound poison body!
most of us are familiar with, or at least have heard of, friedrich nietzsche's virulent criticism of christianity: according to nietzsche the belief in, and desire for, "another (higher or future) world" and "eternal life" betrays a hatred of this world and real life, of power and beauty, of the animal and the "body," a "slave morality" which essentially consists in "resentment" against everything real, powerful, beautiful, etc.
christian "spirituality" is shameful "nihilism," nihilism in disguise, the central emblem of which is the cross, understood as the very negation of life, with the "will of power" and the cruel beauty it is made of.
nietzsche lumps together christianity and anarchism as expressions of the same basic rejection of reality.
Nark - what exactly do you believe - or not? Or is that too personal?
