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  I Learned Something New!!!

  by NikL in

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  well i did indeed learn something new from the public talk last sunday.

  while drifting in and out of consciousness, hoping for time to quickly pass, i picked up on a very important point.

  the words being spoken from the monotone bore machine at the podium had lulled me into a lethargic semi comatose state when all of a sudden one sentence cut through the fog like a hot knife cuts through butter.. he said "the moon is our closest planet".

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  I stand corrected on the mass issue.
  29 years since I took a Physics course.
  I just remembered that the Moon's gravity is 1/6 of Earth, and my mind changed it to mass.

  On the issue of being a binary planet, see
  http://windows.ivv.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/tour_def/pluto/binary_planet.html.
  

  The only other planet and moon in the solar system which could be a double planet are the Earth and the Moon. As in the case of the Earth and the Moon, the origin of such a system is hard to explain.

  I have read many articles lately referring to the moon as a binary planet.

  Earth's diameter is only 3.67 times larger than the Moon.
  http://fi-www.arc.nasa.gov/ic/projects/bayes-group/Atlas/size/Earth/Moon.html
  JRP
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  Where do you go to die?

  by wasasister in

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  for the majority of humans, certain events are surrounded by tradition and ritual.

  marriage, the birth of children, entrance into adulthood, and death are all life-events which will be marked by most with a form of religious ceremony.

  for the few who have left off affiliation with a religious organization, these events are marked differently - more by tradition than by mystic ritual.

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  "I can answer any question you got. In fact, I got answers to questions you have never even thought of."
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  Me too. I can answer any question you have.
  For example: What color is the sky?
  Answer: John Kennedy

  See? I answered the question.

  I can also answer all questions correctly if you ask the right questions for my answers.

  JRP
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  What the hell am I going to do with these books?!?

  by TheApostleAK in

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  what am i going to do with all the books (for field service) that i still got??

  i got 5 "life" books, 3 nwt's, 5 "knowledge" books, 3 of every brochure, 10 "required" brochures, 2 "creator" books, 2 "family" books and a 12 inch pile of wt's and awakes?

  (i got another box of books to got thru in a minute) and i didn't even pay for them!.

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  Like an idiot I threw all of mine in the circular file.
  I also did not want anyone to fall in the greedy hands of the WTBS.
  I could have used them in my divorce.
  It would have saved me thousands of dollars.

  JRP
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  I Learned Something New!!!

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well i did indeed learn something new from the public talk last sunday.

  while drifting in and out of consciousness, hoping for time to quickly pass, i picked up on a very important point.

  the words being spoken from the monotone bore machine at the podium had lulled me into a lethargic semi comatose state when all of a sudden one sentence cut through the fog like a hot knife cuts through butter.. he said "the moon is our closest planet".

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  I think that he was right on key.
  Some scientists consider the moon to be another planet. It has only one sixth the mass of Earth.
  Just as there are binary stars, there are also binary planets.
  If you want to be picky try this:

  *** Rbi8 Genesis 1:3-5 ***
  3 And God proceeded to say: “Let light come to be.” Then there came to be light. 4 After that God saw that the light was good, and God brought about a division between the light and the darkness. 5 And God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night. And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a first day.

  *** Rbi8 Genesis 1:6-8 ***
  6 And God went on to say: “Let an expanse come to be in between the waters and let a dividing occur between the waters and the waters.” 7 Then God proceeded to make the expanse and to make a division between the waters that should be beneath the expanse and the waters that should be above the expanse. And it came to be so. 8 And God began to call the expanse Heaven. And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a second day.

  *** Rbi8 Genesis 1:14-19 ***
  14 And God went on to say: “Let luminaries come to be in the expanse of the heavens to make a division between the day and the night; and they must serve as signs and for seasons and for days and years. 15 And they must serve as luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth.” And it came to be so. 16 And God proceeded to make the two great luminaries, the greater luminary for dominating the day and the lesser luminary for dominating the night, and also the stars. 17 Thus God put them in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth, 18 and to dominate by day and by night and to make a division between the light and the darkness. Then God saw that [it was] good. 19 And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a fourth day.

  Questions:
  1. How come that Elohim created the light on the first day, but the Sun, Moon, and stars that produce such light were only created until the fourth day?
  2. How could the first three days have existed without the Sun, etc. to mark the passage of time?
  3. Why did the Elohim call the Moon a luminary. The Moon has no light of its own. It only reflects the light of the Sun.
  4. Why does 1:16 say "...and also the stars."? The Elohim should have known that the Sun is another star.
  5. Verse 17 says "Thus God put them in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth". You must remember that this expanse called Heaven was created on the second day and it was the region between the two layers of water surrounding the Earth. How could all these billions of stars fit in this small region?

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  Tree of Life---Ruby slippers?

  by crossroads in

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  what was the tree of life doing in the garden?.

  i have only one thought that works for me on this.. has anybody else ever wondered?

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  The tree of life was doing what it was suppossed to do.
  It was giving Eternal life to whoever ate from it.
  Even the gods (Elohim) were worried that humans would eat from it. Since humans had already eaten from the tree of knowledge, They would be like gods if they had eternal life.
  They were so worried about it that they placed a computer guided flaming sword to go around the tree protecting it. They also placed cherubs to guard the tree.
  The tree of life had to be a real tree. The sword going aroung it would not really travel around a person or an animal.
  The fact that it was protected shows that it could give eternal life.
  So it is a tree that gives knowledge
  and it is a tree, not Yaweh, who gives eternal life.
  Unless the Bible is lying to us.
  Nah. The word of god lie? impossible.
  Both trees had to die during the deluge, together with the rest of Earth's vegetation after being sunk in salty water for months.

  JRP
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  ARE AVERAGE JWs DECEPTIVE?

  by Amazing in

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  i ask this because on this and other forums that have a large share of former jws, our stated experiences and encounters during and after our jw membership seem to reflect that the wts and its body of believers are most corrupt.

  likewise, those never associated who read our posts may get the impression that even visiting a kingdom hall may result in serious negative events.. i believe that it is important to remind everyone that the average jw is a generally good person.

  most try to live good lives, act on their beliefs, and promote what they feel is the truth.

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  My thoughts exactly.
  Went into corners for them, procured them more flesh to sell their magazines.
  At least prostitutes get some of the cash they earn.
  Publishers give the WT money out of their own money if their Johns do not not pay.

  JRP
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  Can someone answer this???

  by jurs in

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  i never really had a clear understanding of how jw's labeled someone apostate.

  some time this week the elders will receive my letter disasociating myself.

  in the letter i accuse the organization as being a cult.

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  If I had to write my letter of resignation again, I would do something like that, but I would give a copy to the people in the congregation before I turned it to the Elders.
  I would also consult a lawyer.
  They make you write this letter so that you find it hard to sue them in the future.
  If they are going to make your life miserable (or at least try to), you should make them pay for it.
  As far as I know Catholics or other main line religions do not make you write such silly letters.

  JRP
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  WERE ANIMALS MEANT TO BE VEGGYS?

  by uncle_onion in

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  i would be very interested in any creationalists response to genesis 1:30 where the bible tells us that all animals wre originallly vegetarians.. why aren't they vegetarians now?

  what about gnats who only live on blood?.

  this to me brings up a lot of issues that can not be answered.

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  If Abel did not eat the sheep, why would he offer to J their fatty pieces, which seem to be appreciated so much for eating? Shouldn’t he have offered their fleece, or some part of them that is not edible? if he had no idea that lambs could be eaten, the logical thing to do would be to offer their fleece to J in order to have his favor.

  *** Rbi8 Genesis 4:4 ***
  4 But as for Abel, he too brought some firstlings of his flock, even their fatty pieces.

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  I ate meat on Friday

  by chester in

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  i was raised as a catholic.

  it used to be considered a sin to eat meat on friday.

  even for a little boy who was at the age of reason.. i remember very well the time when i was in the second grade about the age of 7 that i did eat a hot dog on a friday.. i knew that it was a sin but i ate it anyway.

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  It depends on your age.
  This change occurred over 30 years ago. The curious thing is that in some affluent countries red meat eating (you could always eat fish) was not forbidden year around, but it was in poor underdeveloped countries.

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  I ate meat on Friday

  by chester in

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  i was raised as a catholic.

  it used to be considered a sin to eat meat on friday.

  even for a little boy who was at the age of reason.. i remember very well the time when i was in the second grade about the age of 7 that i did eat a hot dog on a friday.. i knew that it was a sin but i ate it anyway.

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  Same thing happened to me!
  I quit going to mass after the meat on Friday rule change.
  Before the rule change I had many sleepless nights as a young child. I could not wait to go to confession on Saturday if I ate meat by accident.
  I also figured that God would not be sending to hell one generation of people one day, and then all of a sudden he would not.
  I joined the Tower because I thought that they more closely resembled early Christians.
  Then I started seeing constant changes, and decided God would not be changing his mind so frequently.
  I then discovered the Internet.
  The rest is History.

  JRP