the wts likes to put the "c in a circle" symbol on everything they publish.. but why should god's "inspired" writings have to be protected that way?.
to protect it against illegal copying?he and the wts should be pleased .
that his works are copied even more because is that not what he wants?.
[quote]A copywrite would also include the right to have the information as it is. So no one will change the wording. Why would Jehovah not want a copywrite for his Orginization. [quote]
Maybe he wants to prove he is almighty and does not need lawyers and judges who are all part of Satan's Organization?
scientific american runs an article rebutting some of the most common creationist arguments.
short and to the point.. this is the first page.
click for the following ones.. see http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleid=000d4fec-7d5b-1d07-8e49809ec588eedf&catid=2.
Hannibal,
But scientific research has'nt answered the biggest question and that is how the FIRST living organism came about and evolved.
The bible has also not answered the biggest question and that is how god came about and evolved. If everything had to have a creator, who then created god?
scientific american runs an article rebutting some of the most common creationist arguments.
short and to the point.. this is the first page.
click for the following ones.. see http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleid=000d4fec-7d5b-1d07-8e49809ec588eedf&catid=2.
JanH needs to to read the publication "Life.Howe did it get here..be evolution or Creation.?" Published by the WTS. This highly Scientific book approaches the argument from a blank sheet of paper. Providing fact both for and against each argument. This book has been applauded the world over or its factual statements and quotes. I am sure it has won a literature prize from a third world country. And it is better than a college education.
Are you sure your name is not Pinoccio?
You don't need Scientific American to prove creationism wrong. Just read the bible!
The gods (elohim) create the light on the first day, but there were no days until he created the sun, moon, and stars on the "fourth"day.
They separate the waters and put some on the top layer of a firmament (firm, thin layer) Below this top layer, they create the heavens, on which they place the heavenly bodies on the fourth day. It does not matter that they are billions of years away or that some of them have volumes greater than a billion Earths
On the third day they create the flowering plants before they create their polinators and the sun, but Jehovah creates them after creating man, but before creating woman.
On the fifth day they command the water bodies to create flying animals, which later Jehovah creates from soil.
On the sixth day they create males and female humans in their own image at the same time, but Jehovah has a hard time finding him a mate among the animals, gets a bright idea, and makes a female from the rib of a male, which probably did not occur to him to do to the rest of the animals, which were created from water or soil, and man who was created from soil. This means female humans were the only ones created from living tissue.
There was no rain and plants were irrigated by mist, which could not be transformed into rain because magically the water molecules in the mist would not join to form droplets.
Animals were forbidden to eat other animals, so snakes and spiders had to poison their food to eat it.
Snakes could talk and had legs.
i am born in the truth.now i am 40 years old and have thrown all my wt literature in the trash can.i am ashamed that i have been in the watchtower orginazation and in my prayer to jehovah i have said that i only belong to him.
[quote]This is illegal in the United States. Because of the written content of WT literature, it cannot be merely thrown away. One has to take it to a designated "Toxic Waste" dump site where men in space suit[quote]
LOLROFPOP (Laughing out loud, rolling on the floor, pissing on my pants) @ Farkel, good one.
just wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
Many of those who criticise the NWT for using the name "Jehovah" in the NT are apparently oblivious to the fact that many English translations, including the Authorised Version, have replaced the Name in the O.T. with "Lord" almost 7000 times. If one is to insist that the NWT is an interpretation and a paraphrased version then that same label must be applied to those translations which replace "Jehovah" in the O.T. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
This is in the Old Testament, where there *may* have been a name for the mythical tribal Jewish god of war. Admittedly nobody knows for sure what this name really was so even the NWT errs in calling it Jehovah. They should just write the tetragrammaton. However there is no excuse for including it in the NT and calling it a translation.
http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?language=english
NASB Judges 11 40 that the daughters of Israel went yearly to commemorate the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in the year.
AMP Judges 11 40 That the daughters of Israel went yearly to mourn the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
NLT Judges 11 40 for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter.
KJ21 Judges 11 40 that the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
ASV Judges 11 40 that the daughters of Israel went yearly to celebrate the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
YLT Judges 11 40 from time to time the daughters of Israel go to talk to the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite, four days in a year.
DARBY Judges 11 40 from time to time the daughters of Israel go to talk to the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite, four days in a year.
This site has also the Biblia Sacra Vulgata in Latin.
http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=Judges+11%3A40+++&VULGATE_version=yes&language=latin&x=17&y=8
I still have a Latin-Spanish dictionary from my days in catholic High School in Mexico. The word anni means years. Plagnant means to cry as in mourning, specially in sad occasions, especially in funerals. I like the Vulgata because thanks for many people not understanding the language, it has not changed through the years.
Judges 11 40 ut post anni circulum conveniant in unum filiae Israhel et plangant filiam Iepthae Galaaditae diebus quattuor
The NWT gives the following account
Judges 11:40 From year to year the daughters of Israel would go to give commendation to the daughter of Gephthath gileadite four times a year
Note that the NWT, like YLT and DARBY, gives the impression that she was still alive after her murder and burning. Even the words celebrate and commemorate do not give the impression of her being alive after this barbaric custom.
Note that verse 31 of chapter 11 of Judges says:
31 Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
Verse 35 says:
35 And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
What had he promised? A burnt offering!
[quote] 39 And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel, [quote]
Why did she cry for her virginity? Because by the untimely sacrifice, she would have no descendents. Jephtah had not promised to have her work in the temple. He had promised to murder and burn someone for his victory. The first that came to meet him.
Yes, I know there are various translations that try to hide Jephtah's murder/sacrifice of his daughter, which was approved by omission on the bible. The NWT says that the daughters of Israel commended his daughter four times a year, just as JWs commend the murder/sacrifice of their children in the altar of the Watchtower by denying them blood now, and vaccines and transplants in the past.
Can the bible be the word of god? Definitely no. Does the NWT reflect old documents? Heck no. In my own research by comparing texts, I have found out that the WT researches just consult other bibles and write the version that most accommodates to their beliefs, and then they have the gall to tell their followers that they just translated the bible, and accommodate their beliefs to it, when the opposite is true. From what I have seen they accommodate their bible to their beliefs. When confronted they say that other translations are similar, just like children and criminals say to their parents, teachers, and judges: "but other kids/criminals did it too!" trying to be absolved by passing the blame to others.
i am born in the truth.now i am 40 years old and have thrown all my wt literature in the trash can.i am ashamed that i have been in the watchtower orginazation and in my prayer to jehovah i have said that i only belong to him.
I, too made the mistake of throwing it in the garbage.
Those things can help you in court or to prove to some lame-brain how much the WT has changed over the years and how cultic and dangerous they are.
just wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
Libra_Spirit,
Didn't someone named Greeber, a psychic and spirit medium, write that version of the Bible?
Why do you think they call themselves spirit directed?
As I understand it, at one time they called themselves spirits directed.
contrary to the accepted image of the wtbts as builders of faith in the bible, their use of biblical examples of apostacy as defense for their child abuse record actually undermines faith in the bible by showing that the book can be used to manipulate the conscience of believers.
neither god nor the bible are protecting jehovah's witnesses from this latest manuever by the wtbts.
why won't the wtbts just deal with the facts at hand?
How dare you say that we don't act according to biblical standards!
Mark 10:14 But when Jesus saw this, He was indignant and said to them, "Permit the children to come to Me; do not hinder them; for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.
Deuteronomy 20:14 "Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you.
(See, Jehovah wanted them to use the booties of children)
You can see also elsewere in the Internet where Russel, an annointed JW, was accused in court of pedophilia by his own wife.
As you can see the spirits-guided organization has ample biblical backing for using children. Children are used even in inclement weather for distributing WT publications, and beaten in washrooms during indoctrination meetings. What is one more physical and emotional pain inflicted in the little ones when they can be used by Jehovah's Witnesses to increase the wealth of the bOrg bring more people to the organization so they can also laugh and smile after our loving god burns and rips the flesh of 99% of humanity for not listening to our earthly mother?
i have mentioned to valis, that wild turkey and i might not be able to make it from wednesday till saturday , due to a new job account he is establishing.
everthing is playing by ear right now for us.we are not sure about the children either so that is also a factor.
but we do plan on being there either for wednesday or saturday.
Can kids come?
I was planning to be in Dallas by Friday on my way to Brownsville, Maybe I can swing by.
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can i get sued by the watchtower if i write a fictional story about the org?
I don't think so if you make it clear that it is fictional, and you mention no names, but I would consult with a money grabber an attorney first.
