does anyone know of any good rumors about specific members of the wt governing body?
RR,
I think that you missed the drain pipe showing Witchtowers, Asleep, The New World interpretation, according to JW's and other byproducts that come from childless old men in their ivory tower.
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
does anyone know of any good rumors about specific members of the wt governing body?
I heard the rumor that they claimed that homosexual sex and bestiality were no grounds for divorce for JWs.
Also the way you wrote your topic may mean that a member of the governing body (written without caps to show contempt)rumors, or gossips. Quirks of the English language, you know.
Besides, I have a tendency to read, at least in part, all topics as they appear. I am sure many here do the same.
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
one thing that was clear in the nbc is that in most cases the wt editorial and real estate corp. only sends child molesters to the police in states where they are required to do so.
if they are following biblical mandates or their conscience, how come they only report them when they must do so by state law?.
why is it that jehova's organization obeys cesar's law only when they are forced to do so?
Actually, I should have said:
Why is it that Jehova's Organization only protects children when forced to do so by Cesar's law?
If they really believed in stopping child molestation, they would reported this extremely serious crimes even in states where they are not required to report molestation.
They publicly claim to be different than Catholic priests, but they are worse. This inquisitions are composed of three members who must share the responsibility of reporting the abuse, but they cover one another, and not report the crime so public relations show that they are holy. At least priests hear confessions on a one-to-one relationship. This triad acts as a confessor and a judge to grown ups. They don't dispense advise as mediators, and hear true confessions. Nobody brings charges against another to a priest, and expect him to be a judge. Elders are judges and executors. Abused little girls or boys come to them not for confessions but for advice and justice but they get punished instead.
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
one thing that was clear in the nbc is that in most cases the wt editorial and real estate corp. only sends child molesters to the police in states where they are required to do so.
if they are following biblical mandates or their conscience, how come they only report them when they must do so by state law?.
why is it that jehova's organization obeys cesar's law only when they are forced to do so?
One thing that was clear in the NBC is that in most cases the WT editorial and Real Estate Corp. only sends child molesters to the police in states where they are required to do so. If they are following biblical mandates or their conscience, how come they only report them when they must do so by state law?
Why is it that Jehova's Organization obeys Cesar's law only when they are forced to do so? They claim to have magazines proving they were against pedophilia, but as true pharisees, saying one thing, but doing the opposite, they will not protect their own children in the majority of states.
If they really thought child molesting was as damaging as it is, they would have made sure to send those predators to jail on their own.
Christian trained conscience seems to be lacking somewhere.
Of course, those old farts at the top have no children (at least publically), so they don't know anything about protecting the children of others.
What do you expect from an organization that makes slaves of children and makes idols of the ones dying for refusing a blood transfusion?
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
ok here are a few links any apostate will enjoy!
some things will really make any believer wonder.. http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/jw_list.html.
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/.
Beans,
Before I bought the books, I dowloaded the books "Is It God's Word" and "Forgery In Christianity" by Joseph Wheless. from http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/joseph_wheless/index.shtml
I actually changed it to Microsoft Word and reformatted it because it is in unformatted text. I did not know that Amazon.com has them for sale for about $45.00 for the set, plus S&H. It would have saved me about a week's work.
Reading "Is It God's Word?" freed me from the chains of Christianity. I came to the realization that Jehovah is a mythical god of war for the Jews, and though I think that there MAY be a god, I know for a fact that Yaweh, the god of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism is as false a god as Jupiter, Thor, Huitzilopochtli, and other mythical gods.
By the way, skeptics sells a CD ROM, which I plan to purchase. They also have a section for JWs.
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
only three more days to go folks before the fit hits the shan!.
tick.
tick.
Actually, I painted an advertisement about the Dateline show on the rear window of my van. I plan to park it near a KH if I can find out their meeting time.
I drove it all day today, but heard no comments, either positive or negative.
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
watchtower spin doctors!.
dr. gail bethea-jackson tells us that we didn't know what child abuse was 18-20 years ago.
gag on this one!.
1) For human issues and the social dynamics of dysfunctional families: "Reader's Digest," a periodical with a "rich heritage" of reliable information.2) For all other issues regarding science: "Popular Mechanics," and old and long-respected source as a journal for the latest in science advancements.
For everything else, they get their information from:
3) "God"
Hey Farkel,
Don't be so hard on the Watchtower Publishing and Real Estate Co. Maybe their god did not know child molestation was bad, so it did not send his spirit to let them know it was an abomination.
I know people went to jail for child molestation during the 1980,s so maybe the judicial system was a better spirit directed organization. ;)
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
"we will see you tuesday, at a special time, 8 eastern, 7 central.".
right from the horse's mouth on tonight's show.. that settles it.
Which network will it be on?
NBC, CBS, ABS?
Will it be on May 28, 2002?
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
the two different creation stories in genesis contradict each other in the matter of the order of the creation of man and vegetation.
in the first story, vegetation was created on the third day, and three days later man was created.
however, in the second creation story, there was no vegetation before man.
Joseph,
The word "Elohim" does not mean "god", it means "gods", the singular word for "god" is "el".
You can see this in the NWT with references. It is the second point of the explanations for Genesis 1:1. Of course apologists claim that it is the majestatic form, and means god in singular.
Excuses, excuses, excuses.
This is a clear rip-off of the babilonian mith of the creation.
Note that Jehovah if people already knew that Jehova was the only god, it does not make sense to call him Jehovah elohim, and translate it as Jehovah god. It would have sufficed to just call him Jehovah, or "el" The real translation of Jehovah elohim is "Jehovah of the gods". Note also that it says in Genesis 1:26:
And God said, Let US (plural) make man in OUR (plural)image, after OUR (plural) likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Also notice Genesis 1:27:
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
It does not make sense to say that god created mankind in his image, male and female, because he would have to be male and female. If you translate "elohim" as "gods", it does make sense because there are male gods and female gods.
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
according to our divorce agreement between my ex and i, i would get our daughters all school holidays in exchange for memorial day, and the other three yearly propaganda meetings.
key is that she had to tell me their dates by february 2 of the year in session.
she did not tell me, so i told her that i would not let her have them next thursday unless she talked to me about religion for two hours.
Lisa
Well, what happened Faraon?
I came to pick up my girls to from their school, as I do everyday by stipulation from the contract. My ex already had them in her car. I went to make a police report. She also came. I showed them the divorce settlement which had stipulated that she would give me the dates for the memorial and the three assemblies by February 1 of the year in question.
They said that we had to take it to court because it was a civil matter.
I told them that the children would not take their final swimming test, which they had to take yesterday from seven to eight p.m.
To make a story short. I told her that I had given her a nice out, but she refused.
I told her I had given her an out by talking two hours about the bible. That if she refused to do this, I would sue her for breach of contract, and she would have to pay for damages, such as paying for our chidren's swimming courses, my lost wages, lawyer's fees, and court fees.
She finally decided to talk for two hours.
JRP
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
Nietzsche
