Posts by Faraon

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How did all the animals fit on Noah's Ark?

by hooberus in

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many skeptics assert that the bible must be wrong, because they claim that the ark could not possibly have carried all the different types of animals.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/cen_v19n2_animals_ark.asp

Faraon

..He was quoted to show his apriori bias toward materialism.
?Hense the "falsifiabilty" argument should not be used as an excuse to apriori exclude creation from consideration along with evolution.
...Also it has been shown that many evolutionists have apriori limited themselves?
...You see, his apriori bias towards materialism casused him to deny creation as a possibility

Could someone tell me if apriori is the new word of the week?

First I consulted http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=apriori . The answer was:

See the Top 10 Ask Jeeves results for "apriori"
No entry found for apriori.

I then consulted http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=a%20priori . I received this reply among others.

a priori adj 1: involving deductive reasoning from a general principle to a necessary effect; not supported by fact; "an a priori judgment" [ant: a posteriori ] 2: based on hypothesis or theory rather than experiment adv : derived by logic, without observed facts [ant: a posteriori ]

Are these two last words the ones that are meant by apriori?

If there is a meaning for apriori, could someone please define it for me? I noticed its extensive use in this thread, and would like to answer properly.

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What I have learned about Rolf Furuli

by Faraon in

on a recent thread about the year of the destruction of jerusalem, i learned from "scholar" about rolf furuli.. i looked up his name in google, and came with a few interesting links.

all i can say is that i am glad there aren't too many witnesses going to universities, especially those claiming to be researchers.

first they must take their blinds off.. a review of rolf furuli's book "the role of theology and bias in bible translation".

Faraon

Scholar,

You have a perverted biew [view] of God's organizatiion organization and it faithful and discreet slave. The fact is that Furuli is [has been] a Witness for many yaers [years], ~~and~~ has earned for himself eminent academic qualifications and is in a position to be judged by his peers, ~~and~~ [repeated use of and instead using a comma] ~~have~~ has [subject/ verb agreement. The subject is Furuli, a singular noun] their respect also. In other words he is in the same position as other academics and fellow scholars. Throughout the scholarly community there is always robust debate and criticism. He has used his advanceed [advanced] learning to serve interests of the Lord's work, which begs the question, as in what way you and your fellow critics are giving God glory?
scholar
BA BA Hons (cand) Deakin MA Studies in Religion Sydney

Isn't it a requirement in Australia to take, and pass, courses in English?

You write like a third grader when you constantly repeat the word "and" instead of using commas.

Please either quit "flashing" your "academic credentials" or learn how to write, spell, and to think critically. I was going to add ethics, but I know of no JW who has them. To them, "Ethics" means "change your thoughts to the latest New Light (tm)"

Faraon

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What I have learned about Rolf Furuli

by Faraon in

on a recent thread about the year of the destruction of jerusalem, i learned from "scholar" about rolf furuli.. i looked up his name in google, and came with a few interesting links.

all i can say is that i am glad there aren't too many witnesses going to universities, especially those claiming to be researchers.

first they must take their blinds off.. a review of rolf furuli's book "the role of theology and bias in bible translation".

Faraon

Scholar:

When you have the academic qualifications that Furuli has achieved [,] then you ~~are~~ [will be] in position to be critical of his scholarship. Furuli has done a magnificant [magnificent] jog in elevating the NWT, defending our blood issue and deconstructing the Jonsson hypothesis.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion

AA Pre Medicine
BA Education
MA Urban Education
MA Administration and Supervision
MA Agnostic Studies

For a "learned man" you are poor excuse for academics, which you seem to flash at any opportunity. Those credentials only impress fools. I know principals who would be put to shame by a sixth-grader when it comes to basic math, spelling, and writing.

As a JW, you should know that you should have not gone on to "higher education" because "the end of this system of things is near"

I have quoted true scholars' criticisms of him. It is not only my opinion, but as a free thinker, and not one with the WT blinders own, I have a constitutionally protected right to my opinion.

That he has "elevated the NWT" makes him even more disgusting in my eyes. IMO he has contributed to the depression, suicide, and murder of untold thousands. He has no business giving "expert" opinions in the field of medicine if his expertise is linguistics.

That goes for you too. If you claim to have an expert knowledge of religion, you should know better, and not contribute to human misery.

If I were you, I would stop "flashing" your credentials, which may or may not be true. Judging you by your common sense, you are in no position to evaluate others.

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Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

Faraon

Gamaliel,

When you see how much the JWs really have to lose without 607, you see why scared Society's sycophants like scholar resort to plain old-fashioned dishonest, every single time.

A horrible thought just entered my mind.

What if the WT humbly apologizes, and then claims that indeed 587 is the real date. This would push 1914 to 1934. They could say that this was the reason why the annointed class was sealed in 1935,

1934 would give them another 20 years to declare the end of the world.

Then again, they could calculate the years to be 365.25 days long instead of their 360. That would still buy them more time etc.

No wonder why religion is such a racket.

Faraon

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Length of creative days.

by dothemath in

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now that we're starting to read the bible at the beginning again.........i was wondering if this subject has ever been discussed.. the length of the creative days........used to be considered 7000 years in length.......stated rather dogmatically up until around the mid 1980's.

(aid book says this......insight book does not) of course....this is quite rediculous.......... more recent publications don't stress this .........just periods of time.......... yet there was never anything published to indicate how wrong this old view was.........done very gradually.......i think some still think the creative days were still 7000 years long.. if this topic has come up before.....maybe someone could post a link to it..

Faraon

Garybuss,

HEBREW UNIVERSE
From page 542 Twentieth Century Bible Commentary
Edited by G. Henton Davies, Alan Richardson, Charles L. Wallis
1932, 1955 Harper & Brothers New York, NY

I have previously seen in a bible, which I cannot remember at the moment, a drawing similar to the one you posted. but, if I remember correctly, the atmosphere was not round, and it had four corners.

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How did all the animals fit on Noah's Ark?

by hooberus in

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many skeptics assert that the bible must be wrong, because they claim that the ark could not possibly have carried all the different types of animals.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/cen_v19n2_animals_ark.asp

Faraon

Hooberus,

My point was that many evolutionists apriori limit themselves to materialistic explanations/ conclusions and exclude creation as a possible conclusion in their origins research. Though some have examined creationist evidence, their philosophy of interpretation causes them to exclude the creation alternative as a possible conclusion. Therefore they limit themselves only to naturalsistic/ evolutionary possibilities in their research.

That explains why some of us are sons of a bitch. Following the Nichol people's creationist stories

http://lectura.ilce.edu.mx:3000/biblioteca/sites/fondo2000/vol2/05/htm/SEC_2.html

Cuentan que la madre de los dioses habló a un leñador anunciándole un diluvio en el que morirían todos los hombres, para salvarse debía encerrarse en un tronco hueco, en la curiosa compañía de una perra. Esto hizo el leñador y como la diosa cerró muy bien el tronco, éste flotó hasta que pasó la inundación y salieron el leñador y su perra. Se instalaron en una cueva y él salía diariamente a cortar leña. Como el leñador era el único hombre sobreviviente, le extrañaba muchísimo que, al regresar a la cueva, todos los días encontrara agua del río y tortillas calientes. Presa de curiosidad decidió esconderse y entonces vio que la perra se quitaba la piel y se convertía en una mujer. Mientras iba al río a traer agua, el leñador quemó la piel de la perra. La mujer inmediatamente empezó a gritar sintiendo terribles dolores en la espalda, y es que tenía la espalda quemada al igual que la piel de la perra. El leñador le echó el agua con la que se preparaba la masa para las tortillas y con eso se alivió. Después se casaron y sus hijos explican las palabras "linaje de perros".

Basically it means that the mother of the gods talked to a lumberjack announcing a deluge in which all men would die. In order to save himself he had to enclose himself in a hole in a trunk acompanied by a bitch. The goddess closed the trunk and it floated until the deluge was over. They lived in a cave and he would go out in order to cut wood. Since he was the only survivor, he was amazed to find warm tortillas and water from the river. He saw that the bitch would take off her skin and turn into a woman. He took the skin and burned it while she left to get water from the river. The woman started to scream feeling terrible pains in her back the same as the bitch's fur. He took some of the water stored to prepare the tortillas and threw it at her and this cured her. After that they were married and their children explain the words "lineage of dogs" [Chichimeca is a word of a tribe of Native Mexicans. It literally means "sons of a bitch"]

Some people get offended by this but I think that it is just as silly as being born from the dust or a rib.

Some people would say that this is proof of a deluge. I don't think so.

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Out dated post Was JWs Suicide or Murdered by Son?

by Faraon in

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i see now this is an outdated post.

don't waste your time.. today a mother was stabbed by her mentally deficient son, but authorities do not know if they should charge him because she refused a transfusion.. http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/state/hc-11115721.apds.m0914.bc-ct--stabjan11,0,6406360.story?coll=hc-headlines-local-wire.

Faraon

Sorry people,

I didn't see it before in this news section, and as you can see the date in the paper was January 11. I posted it on the 11 too. I really don't understand why.

Faraon

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Out dated post Was JWs Suicide or Murdered by Son?

by Faraon in

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i see now this is an outdated post.

don't waste your time.. today a mother was stabbed by her mentally deficient son, but authorities do not know if they should charge him because she refused a transfusion.. http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/state/hc-11115721.apds.m0914.bc-ct--stabjan11,0,6406360.story?coll=hc-headlines-local-wire.

Faraon

I see now this is an outdated post. Don't waste your time.

Today a mother was stabbed by her mentally deficient son, but authorities do not know if they should charge him because she refused a transfusion.

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/state/hc-11115721.apds.m0914.bc-ct--stabjan11,0,6406360.story?coll=hc-headlines-local-wire

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Length of creative days.

by dothemath in

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now that we're starting to read the bible at the beginning again.........i was wondering if this subject has ever been discussed.. the length of the creative days........used to be considered 7000 years in length.......stated rather dogmatically up until around the mid 1980's.

(aid book says this......insight book does not) of course....this is quite rediculous.......... more recent publications don't stress this .........just periods of time.......... yet there was never anything published to indicate how wrong this old view was.........done very gradually.......i think some still think the creative days were still 7000 years long.. if this topic has come up before.....maybe someone could post a link to it..

Faraon

If God were to inspire someone to give an accurate description of creation, we would be unable to comprehend it even in our modern 21st-century. Of course God would gloss over the intricate details, and inspire something that we could comprehend as true, according to our limited understanding we haven't even in the 21st-century. This tecnically would not be true but merely close to true as we understand thing now.

He did not have to come into lies either. If he created everything and wanted us to know about it how come he is unable to write these things themselves?

If he/she doesn't care about us, why should we care about him.

What makes you think that the myths from other religions are not true either, and indicate the same creator? Jehovah is as much myth as any other religion.

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Length of creative days.

by dothemath in

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now that we're starting to read the bible at the beginning again.........i was wondering if this subject has ever been discussed.. the length of the creative days........used to be considered 7000 years in length.......stated rather dogmatically up until around the mid 1980's.

(aid book says this......insight book does not) of course....this is quite rediculous.......... more recent publications don't stress this .........just periods of time.......... yet there was never anything published to indicate how wrong this old view was.........done very gradually.......i think some still think the creative days were still 7000 years long.. if this topic has come up before.....maybe someone could post a link to it..

Faraon

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/xray_race_010911-1.html

Brandt explains that only higher energy X-rays survive the trip across the cosmos and through our galaxy from objects that may be up to 12 billion light-years away, which means the objects existed in time and space nearly 12 billion years ago -- just after the Big Bang.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/farthest_supernova_010402.html

The finding has bolstered cosmological models for the universe's expansion and a mysterious "dark energy" pervading it. The supernova, or exploding star, is located 10 billion light-years from Earth.