there are many "proof" texts that people (including jws) use to justify their rejection of anyone that is gay.
there are a few scriptures that you can pull up and try to make a case for show homosexuals why they are evil and wrong.. i've been researching more of these scriptures and i'm coming to some very different conclusions than many other christians hold, especially jws.
i wanted to talk about the first text used by many people to condemn homosexual behaviour.
bro dan, I really think the story of Sodom and Gomorrah can be added to the "myth" category. I mean, c'mon, turning his wife into a pillar of salt just for looking back? What kind of an ass---- god does that? And then Lot has to commit incest (while drunk!!) to keep his lineage going so it can lead up to the Messiah? The whole story smacks of fairy tale, just like the rest of the Old Testament myths.
You might find this interesting....
i know some couples that truly believe this.. what's your view?
do you believe there's a soulmate out there for you?.
I think we have many, many soulmates... and that sometimes we may encounter someone we met or had a relationship with in a past life.
I spent my whole life believing that I was cut off from my soul mate by a judgmental elder, and that I had to somehow find a new one, and I think this caused a lot of unnecessary suffering in my life.
it was not a light slam of flesh and bone against a slanting wall of the derelict cabin.. animal rage set its talons upon an unsuspecting, trusting child and sent her hurtling into the air and, upon impact with the splintery cedar paneling, edging downward, painfully downward by a stop-go motion that could hardly be described as sliding.
landed in a shocked but still breathing heap, she lay quiet until the beast left its lair.
once out the ill-hung door and into the labyrinthine wood that all but put the tiny speck of four rotting walls safely off the map, mommy went to work.
Yep, me too. Abusive and crazy JW mother.... had to get 10 stitches in the head once....
I sometimes wonder if that's why I'm turning 50 this year and still addicted to forums like this one....
God bless all of you who have shared your experiences here...
i'm 75 years old and am confused about life and god.
all explainations seem made up by some religious person or some written book that doesn't make any sense to me.
why doesn't a god just let us know that he exist in some way that all people could understand.
flipper has a great point. Each "now" that goes by is part of our journey, our spiritual evolution. We miss those moments and all we can do with them if all we do is worry about where we end up.
"God" is the Absolute, not the Bible god that presides over everything. The Bible compartmentalizes a gigantic, interdimensional hierarchy into "Father, Son, Angels, Satan, and demons". This is really a highly diluted version of reality. It is the "milk" Paul spoke about, instead of the "meat". The "meat" offers a far better explanation, but we have to be ready for it. Jesus stated this to his disciples, that they were not yet ready for the full-blown truth.
In a free will universe, there is a LOT more leeway in what can and cannot be done then what is presented in scripture. God works through Spirits and PEOPLE, not on his own. God is the All-ness of Everything. Picture our lives as roles in a 3d movie projected onto a big screen. "God" is the screen itself, but yet this is only a reflection of him, a shadow. The Absolute cannot reside in itself in a physical universe, it needs other aspects of itself to materialize in this lower dimension.
I recommend giving Plato's Allegory of the Cave a read.
hey everyone!.
i was looking on facebook and came across a page called facebook.com/wefoundthem and they were speaking about the 2 witnesses.
i have seen a little bit about a witness in the watchtower but not much.
Take a look at the medical symbol. The serpent represents the Life Principle, as it always has in ancient esoteric teachings. The two serpents represent male and female, yin and yang, Adam and Eve, and this signifies the return of the Divine Feminine. Jesus said in the Gospel of Thomas that when we unite the two we will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The scepter in the middle is the kundalini of the spine, and the ball at the top is the pineal gland or third eye. The way the serpents wrap around the scepter represents the DNA helix. The Two Witnesses is just another prophecy about awakening consciousness through a DNA upgrade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAGFiiFkzSc&feature=share
Interestingly, the earth itself is a reflection of our brains. The Western Hemisphere (left-brain) is male, narcissist, with its male narcissist Biblegod, and cut off from the East (the right-brain), which is feminine, more spiritual and more compassionate, connected with the life force energy in medicine and philosophy. What a world it will be when we unite the two.
The Tree of Life
http://dcsymbols.com/TOL/tree3c.htm
Kundalini and the Serpent
note the home page..wow how it has changed.. jehovah's witness discussion forumthe place to discuss anything relating to jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower bible and tract society... or just make new friends!.
many of the posts have nothing to do with with jehovah's witnesses and new ones coming on this board would be turned off by the content of many of these off color posts.
foul inappropriate language which is not proper or suitable for exiting witnesses to visibly inspect.
When I first showed up here in 06, I was shocked right back out of here. Wish I hadn't been. I wasted 3 more years on Pharisee boards that kept me blind as a JW bat when I could have learned the truth here a lot faster. I just couldn't handle "Homerovah the Almighty".... what blasphemy!!
Shock element aside, this is the best ex JW board on the Internet, hands down.
according to witness theology when the cry of peace and security rings out then jehovah will destroy all the infidels etc...yawn....but going by their teachings...why would he intervene then?
when man finally gets it right, does he have to come in and whomp ass?
makes no frickin sense to me.
How DARE they think they can have peace without MEEEEEE!!!! I make war, I make peace, and it's only when I decide!!!!
you know when you're in a dark room and someone suddenly flicks on the lights?
its very unpleasant isnt it?
that the same reason why jah reveals his light to us gradually over time.
That Satan and his hordes of demons have nothing better to do than trick people into believing in the immortal soul by giving them near-death experiences and visions of their dead loved ones, so Jehovah can destroy them at the Big A for being so arrogant as to think they don't need Jehovah. (the Creator of Evil, by his own admission!)
...what would it be and why?.
-sab.
The first half of the first century, so I could see for myself what the hell really happened in and around Jerusalem and Qumran.
PSac, I think the Elohim and YHWH are completely different, and that these ideas were channeled from different sources and ended up in the Bible. Yes this is indeed what creates all the conflict and contradictions in the OT. Add to that Ezra's extensive interpolations and voila, we have a complete mess.
Just curious, have you read Nate Merritt's book, Jehovah Unmasked? It's a pretty quick read and available for free download in PDF format.... it pretty much shows that the Bible really is being truthful when it comes to Jehovah... it doesn't try to hide what he's all about. It just depends on whether we can read it without preconceived notions.
