Christian Mythology: Adam and Eve
http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/christianity_adamandeve.html
The Dark Bible: A Short History of the Bible
http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible2.htm
EVE: TRUTH CONTROL
ProdigalSon
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About the Adam and Eve time gap....
by Lozhasleft inwhat's got me a bit befuddled is this.... when eve was created she was physically perfect right?
and apparently god blessed them which counted as a marriage.
so....that means that satan's deception of eve must have been almost immediate?....because being perfect she would have conceived virtually straight away, surely?
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About the Adam and Eve time gap....
by Lozhasleft inwhat's got me a bit befuddled is this.... when eve was created she was physically perfect right?
and apparently god blessed them which counted as a marriage.
so....that means that satan's deception of eve must have been almost immediate?....because being perfect she would have conceived virtually straight away, surely?
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ProdigalSon
http://www.astradome.com/adam&eve_myth.htm
The original Eve had no spouse except the serpent, a living phallus she created for her own sexual pleasure. Some ancient people regarded the Goddess and her serpent as their first parents. Sacred icons showed the Goddess giving life to a man, while her serpent coiled around the apple tree behind her. Deliberate misinterpretation of such icons produced ideas for revised creation myths like the one in Genesis. Some Jewish traditions of the first century B.C., however, identified Jehovah with the serpent deity who accompanied the Mother in her garden. Sometimes she was Eve, sometimes her name was given as Nahemah, Naama, or Namrael, who gave birth to Adam without the help of any male, even the serpent.
Because Jehovah arrogantly pretended to be the sole Creator, Eve was obliged to punish him according to Gnostic scriptures, (although it does not say how). Though the Mother of All Living existed before everything, the God forgot she had made him and had given him some of her creative power. "He was even ignorant of his own Mother . . . It was because he was foolish and ignorant of his Mother that he said, "I am God, there is none beside me." Gnostic texts often show the creator reprimanded and punished for his arrogance by a feminine power greater and older than himself.
The secret of God's "Name of power," the Tetragrammaton, was that three-quarters of it invoked not God - but Eve. YHWH, yod-he-vau-he, came from the Hebrew root HWH, meaning both "life" and "woman" - in Latin letters, E-V-E. With the addition of an "I" (yod), it amounted to the Goddess's invocation of her name as the Word of creation, a common idea in Egypt and other ancient lands.
Gnostic scriptures said Adam was created by the power of Eve's word, not God's. Adam's name meant he was formed of clay moistened with blood, the female magic of adamah or "bloody clay." He didn't produce the Mother of All Living from his rib; in earlier Mesopotamian stories, he was produced by hers. The biblical idea was a reversal of older myths in which the Goddess brought forth a primal male ancestor, then made him her mate - the ubiquitous, archetypal divine-incest relationship traceable in every mythology. Furthermore, Gnostic scriptures said Eve not only created Adam and obtained his admission to heaven; she was the very soul within him, as Shakti was the soul of every Hindu god and yogi. Adam could not live without "power from the Mother," so she descended to earth as "the Good Spirit, the Thought of Light called by him "Life" (Hawwa)." She entered into Adam as his guiding spirit of conscience. "It is she who works at the creature, exerts herself on him, sets him in his own perfect temple, enlightens him on the origin of his deficiency, and shows him his (way of) ascent." Through her, Adam was able to rise above the ignorance imposed on him by the male God.
By this Gnostic route came the Midrashic assertion that Adam and Eve were originally androgynous, like Shiva and his Shakti. She dwelt in him, and he in her; they were two souls united in one body, which God later tore apart, depriving them of their bliss of union. Cabalists took up the idea and said the paradise of Eden can be regained only when the two sexes are once more united; even God must be united with his female counterpart, the heavenly Eve called Shekina.
It is interesting that the mythical story of the original "Eve", the "Mother of All Living" was lonely and so created a companion - Think about it. It is the dilemma of every women since the beginning of time. No matter how intelligent, successful, or accomplished she may be, without a mate or spouse - a woman feels incomplete - she feels lonely. Often, a woman will compromise on the man of her choice with hopes of changing him and bringing him up to her acceptable mental and emotional standards, often failing miserably. Most women would cherish a man who she could honor and hold in the highest esteem, but unfortunately, he falls from the projected pedestal. (Men will do this projection too on the woman he falls in love with. But here, he is projecting his own internal "anima" or spirit onto the real woman.)
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About the Adam and Eve time gap....
by Lozhasleft inwhat's got me a bit befuddled is this.... when eve was created she was physically perfect right?
and apparently god blessed them which counted as a marriage.
so....that means that satan's deception of eve must have been almost immediate?....because being perfect she would have conceived virtually straight away, surely?
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ProdigalSon
http://www.rastafarispeaks.com/community/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=249
Though many have been taught to think of the Adam and Eve story of creation as historical fact, it is a Judeo-Christian myth that was meant to convey aspects of that particular belief system. Nor is the Adam and Eve story original, it seems to have been pieced together from earlier creation myths. The Adam and Eve myth raises an important issue: that the global popularity of the present Judeo-Christian values, beliefs and myths, as articulated by the bible and various Christian religions, are not because they are superior or better or even more accurate than other belief systems, but that they were accompanied by the superior weaponry and insatiable greed of the conquering Europeans. With the advent of the print press the Christian Bible was one of the first books to be mass produced.
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About the Adam and Eve time gap....
by Lozhasleft inwhat's got me a bit befuddled is this.... when eve was created she was physically perfect right?
and apparently god blessed them which counted as a marriage.
so....that means that satan's deception of eve must have been almost immediate?....because being perfect she would have conceived virtually straight away, surely?
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ProdigalSon
I'm befuddled as to why god is allowing the human race to suffer for 6,000 years because some dude who was created "perfect" and was so incredibly brilliant that he had to go through millions of animals looking for a suitable mate, ate a piece of fruit? I wonder just how he came to his conclusions for each species that he "encountered".
Or how about this one.... why did such a brilliant god capable of creating all these marvelous things and having this grand master plan spend 4.6 billion years preparing the earth for humans only to have a talking snake screw it all up in less than a month....
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So me, of all people, had a religious experience
by sabastious ini was sitting in my garage, as i often do, to chill out and i actually ended up becoming angry.. so here i am, in my garage, kicking it on the stool for the drum set that is in there (i am a pianist/composer, not a drummer).
i start to think about all the crazy stuff that transpires on this planet.
we have all seen shows and heard stories or maybe even witnessed events that don't add up.
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ProdigalSon
It's called Synchronicity Sab. It's a product of our powerful human consciousness.
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Blind Allegiance to G.B. supported by scripture?
by honorsthesis inhey everyone,.
i have been getting in on going debates with brothers in the congregation about the role of the governing body.
i feel that jehovah would not want us to blindly follow a particular g.b.
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ProdigalSon
I wonder what's worse.... rulership by committee or by a dictatorship as in the days of Rutherford or Knorr....
One of the biggest problems with the Bible is that you can make it say any damn thing you want. Donald C. Burney is one of the best examples of this I have ever seen. He made himself the scapegoat Messiah and it really reads convincingly the way he isolates scriptures. The Watchtower should really hire him to reinvent the religion at a time they desperately need it. If he had a GB backing up his crap the dubs would believe it hook line and sinker.
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Don't you DARE to get up!!
by stillin9 ininteresting points from this week's wt study (dec 15 2010 study edition):.
par 12: "do i encourage my children not to view the song between the theocratic ministry school and the service meeting or the one between the public talk and the watchtower study as a sort of intermission,an opportunity for them to leave their seats unnecessarily, perhaps just to stretch their legs?".
why do they have to make such a big deal out of everything?
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ProdigalSon
@stillin9
...the people writing these are all probably 60 year old virgins
virgin pedophiles??
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Welcome back Outlaw!
by life is to short inwe missed you.
glad you are back things were not the same without you.. lits.
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ProdigalSon
You were sorely missed dude.
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How and when was the New Testament Compiled?
by ProdigalSon inearly christian writings.. .
let alone "inspired by god?
church councils) this is what i mean by spiritual osmosis.. there are other early lists of new testament books that.
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ProdigalSon
Awesome darth, thanks again!
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How and when was the New Testament Compiled?
by ProdigalSon inearly christian writings.. .
let alone "inspired by god?
church councils) this is what i mean by spiritual osmosis.. there are other early lists of new testament books that.
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ProdigalSon
Isidore, you are right, trading barbs and slinging mud is a lot of negative energy. We cannot undo the past, but we can learn from it and progress forward. I think there are a lot of things right in religion, including Catholicism, and also a lot of things, let's say, instead of "wrong", not fully evolved or having come to fruition. It's quite clear to me why they don't teach the masses the truth about their symbolism, and that is because it would release the common people from having a need for organized religion. They would put themselves out of business and control.
In the larger picture, while I don't believe there is a personal "God", I believe there is a Divine Hierarchy, an organizational structure, and that structure has all things fully under control. There are reasons why atrocities and deceptions are allowed that we can't yet understand. We are here to learn to become like God, and to discover that we are all part of the "I AM", our core consciousness (minus "egos") is eternal, and death is not the end by any means.
Getting back to the original post, I was disappointed when I went back to the link where I originally downloaded the book Jehovah Unmasked and found that it is no longer free. Surprising, since Nate said he wanted to make it available for all to read. Anyway, the entire book is fantastic and truly liberating to anyone who was ever a Watchtower mind-control slave, and it will help to make complete 100 percent sense of the Bible and solve the riddle of evil that mankind has been struggling with for eons.