Too long?
Darlin, your posts wasn't that long, go as long as you'd like.
Can't get enough encouragement these days.
Very nice, and thank you.
RD
after reading some of todays posts, incuding the one started by reneeisorym( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/144783/1.ashx), i can't help but fee so sad for all of you who have been hurt by the wts and their stupid policies.
for the life of me, i can't understand how any parent can do this to their child, no matter how old the child is.
as far as i'm concerned, it's child abandonment and child abuse.
Too long?
Darlin, your posts wasn't that long, go as long as you'd like.
Can't get enough encouragement these days.
Very nice, and thank you.
RD
i know a lot of brits, aussies, canadians, etc, always marvel at the arrogance, haughtiness, and cockiness of us tourists visiting their countries.
or how mainstream us citizens just fall in line with anything that comes out of the government's mouth, accept any policy as "good", believe all that stuff about how "america is the greatest nation on earth!"..
how it gets ingrained into the being of most us citizens?.
It's not that I am necessarily a supporter of Mr Bush, it's just that I am not necessarily opposed to him either. On some things, I like what he's doing, on a lot of others, not so much.
I think you have to look at a mindset and see where it leads, and I think the bash America mindset (which I'm not saying about you, Dawg) leads to a lack of hope and progress. Bush derangement syndrom is much the same, he won, he is president, he's not on the next ballot, get over it.
I tend to think the American Dream is alive and well, and it has worked well for me. If you aren't American, then pursue the dream wherever you happen to be, and more power to ya. If that's impossible, come here and have a piece of ours, but do it legally!
If I had to wake up every day thinking we have no rights left and there's no opportunity or any of that other negative crappy stuff, I'd still be on public assistance and broke.
Life is what you make of it wherever you are, and if you can like where you are, glad for you, but don't rip on me for liking where I live, cuz I don't have to justify myself to anybody or make apologies either.
RD
i know a lot of brits, aussies, canadians, etc, always marvel at the arrogance, haughtiness, and cockiness of us tourists visiting their countries.
or how mainstream us citizens just fall in line with anything that comes out of the government's mouth, accept any policy as "good", believe all that stuff about how "america is the greatest nation on earth!"..
how it gets ingrained into the being of most us citizens?.
We have no civil rights?
Our president has the brains of a newt?
I'm sorry, but that is just plain silly.
I'm not Bush's biggest fan, I think he's screwed up bigtime, but probably not in the same areas you disagree.
But the above statements are evidence of propaganda just as much as the jingoistic 'America love her or leave her' statements that cause you disquiet.
I think most people just pick the ptopaganda that fits their worldview and makes them feel all warm and fuzzy, I just think waking up every day thinking that everything sucks must not be much fun.
Well, have at it, I'm wearing my nomex suit, flame away.
RD
i know a lot of brits, aussies, canadians, etc, always marvel at the arrogance, haughtiness, and cockiness of us tourists visiting their countries.
or how mainstream us citizens just fall in line with anything that comes out of the government's mouth, accept any policy as "good", believe all that stuff about how "america is the greatest nation on earth!"..
how it gets ingrained into the being of most us citizens?.
Amazing.
To say I disagree with you would be the understatement of the century.
Nobody ever criticizes citizens of any other country for loving their country, but we have to constantly justify loving America.
Well, I love my county, love my flag, and won't apologize for that. Of course I feel it's the greates country, or I would go where I thought it was better.
Nothing's perfect, America is no exception, and if other people love their country and feel it is the best, I can only offer them my kudos.
Look at my other posts for today, and you'll see the restraint I am exercising, Dawg knows what I mean.
Well, enjoy your day, hope it picks up for you, and you find something, ANYTHING to be happy about.
RD
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/143755/1.ashx.
i posted this oct 8, '07.
backgroud: i am a 5th generation jw.
Fricking AMAZING!
"Oh, sweetie, I just conditionally love you soo soo much, and really liked seeing how happy your life is, now all I need for you to continue having me in your life is to wreck all that and join me in sticking our heads so far up our own asses that we can look at the backs of our teeth."
"I've got to get right with JeWatchtowerHooba and you know what THAT means..." rolls up sleeves and prepares to deliver a beating...
GAG! PUKE! BARF!
Sometimes we just have to accept that we just don't have parents.
Mine should have raised me and dropped the ball, then expected to play on the fact that they presided over the traversty that was my childhood to interfere and fuck up my attempts to do anything useful with my adult life, well they can forget about it, I got where I am by going against their advice, I'm sure not going to cut off my nose to spite my face!
Selfish foolish ignorant brain-dead morons!
Nothing is more infuriating that an ignorant fool that will defend their stupidity to the death it leads to!
I hope that was angry enough and was of some help.
RD
now here is a little different subject we haven't discussed much.
i read a book a while back about dreams called, gestalt therapy verbatim , by frederick perls, a well known psychologist .
his take on dreams, without getting too deep, was we dream about unfinished situations in our lives which are troubling us still .
I do my best not to dream if at all possible, vivid dreams don't take me anyplace I want to go.
Lurid scarlet on snow white, the obscene disfigurement of youth, parts of what should be whole garishly displayed like a charnel garden.
I have my good days and my bad days, but dreaming does not serve me well thus, this poem:
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Dreams
dreams are screams in a sleeping head
with dreams like these you'd be better off dead
raucous echos fill my skull at night
the stillborn children of a nameless fright
the razor's edge between sane and not
the growing doubt that burns white hot
i feed the fire peices of my tattered soul
is it any wonder that i'm not whole?
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I guess I'm a mixed bag.
RD
i haven't been on jwd for the last few days as my good friend had her mum die suddenly and i have been spending time just being there for my friend.. i was shocked and saddened to hear that trevor and linda was a sham.
it's sometimes hard not to become cynical with life and not trust anyone when this sort of thing happens.. i have made a big decision and i hope that i don't live to regret it.
i have posted that i have been trying to "fade" as my son and his family are jw's and i don't want to lose them because of being shunned.
Maddie,
There is nothing selfish in wresting your conscience back from those who have seized it, yet cannot stand next to you before your maker.
You have to do what you feel is right, and if in the balance you feel that fading is not for you, then nobody can judge you.
In fact, I admire your strength, and wish you well in whatever course you choose.
RD
i have been a disfellowshiped joho (what i call jehovah's witnesses now) for 7 years and i still find it hard every single day!
i have just recently reunited with 2 of my 4 sisters who have taken a stand just like myself!
i encourage anyone who is struggling with the decisoin to leave or not to leave, but beleive me and the countless others, it was the best decision of my life!!!
Welcome!
I am not your old firends, But I'll be one of your new ones.
Lets do the math.... 24, df'ed 7 years ago, at 17.
Baptized before that, when you could not POSSIBLY have been expected to know what you were getting yourself into.
I swear, there oughtta be an age of consent for joining cults.
They oughtta be prosecuted for Statutory Spiritual Rape.
Glad to see you free and here, new ones like yourself show up every few days, and most are sorely in need of advice and encouragement, glad you're here.
RD
this rollerdave guy, is he for real?.
i mean, the guy just seems larger than life and has so much drama going on, and now there's more of them with the introduction of the wife/gf and daughter characters you gotta wonder.. do any of you have any real experience with this joker?.
are the wife and daughter just him in a wig and a falsetto?.
No, he's about 5'11 but I'm 6'4 hehehe...not built like Charles atlas tho.
I would hope you weren't built like a bodybuilder! I am so glad you are built like you are, and am so proud of you for losing fifty lbs!
Yeah, you're real.... Real Cute!!!
Thanks, Babe.
RD
i'm not trying to defend anyone's actions including mine, but i can certainly see how many of us feel anger.... my father is a sucessful business man, loved in the community by the "worldly" and the jws alike; he's also very logical in almost everyway until we talk about the witnesses.
becasue he's so chrismatic, he's played a role in converting almost everyone in the family-i'm irish so it's one darn big family, into being devout jws.
when i think about how much i love my dad, and my family and couple that with the fact that the only beef we have with one another is the fact that i see through the gb lies; it makes me mad that the love i once felt will never be there again becasue of this division.
Dawg,
I am so with you here.
I find myself getting so angry over things I cannot change, and I think it's precisely because I cannot change them.
bad things happen, head gaskets blow, it costs me $2000, and I'm like, 'eh, happens' but I smack my head on a cupboard door and I'm ready to pull the kitchen cabinets off the wall.
I don't, of course because then I would have to see all my ugly dishes...
In the family dept, I have that brain dead tofu brother of mine, he refuses to even talk if there is the slightest chance of anyone disagreeing with him, also infuriating.
That's what trips to the range are for, dump a few mags of 7.62x39 into a target, you feel better.
Well, I do at any rate.
RD