that was very interesting. i feel like i've had that conversation with my dad many many times. but i was the one getting up and walking out. once after i had been caught having sex and decided to repent and come back i asked that question to some elders about the holy spirit. i said "how do i know if i've commited that sin that is unforgivable?" they said i obviously didn't becuase i was drawn back to the "truth" by jehovah. it's all about fear and control. thank you for that video.
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interesting video.
by heretic inhttp://www.thatvideosite.com/video/797.
guy goes back to christian school where he was taught and stumps the super, in the end the super tries to pass off the interviewer as bitter or guilty about his history there.
anyways once the super discovers the guy had history with the school he locks up tight.
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A SCIENTIFIC COMMENTARY ON GENESIS 1
by FireNBandits init's worhy of note that john 1:1 is also anarthrous, "in beginning.
" this is because the bible doesn't tell us about the beginning or it would say "the" beginning.
an infinite series of beginnings being alluded to.. .
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Missanna
Firenbandits, Your posts are so informative and thought out. thanks,
Mad JW, you always give these little one liners and poke fun at other people's posts but you never have anything really intelligent to add. why is that? aren't witnesses suppose to be so loving all the time... why are you so angry?
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Did you ACTUALLY do this?
by Frequent_Fader_Miles inas part of your "dedication and baptism" did you actually go to jehovah in prayer and "dedicate" your life to him prior to your baptism?
at the time when the elders were reviewing the "questions" with me, i hadn't a clue that i was supposed to do this until one of them asked directly.
i answered in the affirmative anyway ... wanting the incessant questioning to be over as quickly as possible.
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Missanna
yes i did. i was very passionate about it. i had been trained for it since i was 5. i had one sister from my hall come up crying and hugging me for getting baptized. Like i just took the gun out of my mouth and decided to live.
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memories
by Missanna inreading some of these comments brought up a situation to mind.
another thing that brought doubt into my mind was when i first became a pioneer... unfortunately... i was talking to one of the most looked up to pioneer sisters in my hall (over zealous, elders wife) one day out in service and she pulled me to the side and wanted to discuss my association with another young sister in the hall.
this young sister was my best friend.
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Missanna
well she's dating a disassociated not yet devorced guy and was just kicked out of the house for doing so. so she's not exactly in the "truth" but since she's still not babtized she can't be disfellowshiped only looked down on from the bastards that hold all the power in the congregations. pioneers and elders. i do appreciate what i went through most of my life. some of the horror stories you wouldn't believe but one day i'll tell my whole story. but i am grateful because if i hadn't gone through what i did i wouldn't appreciate what i have now as much. All the freedom that i have and all the real friends i have now i owe a thank you to all the dicks and bitches that made me doubt everything. kind of ironic huh?
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Have You ever experienced that?
by Marcel intheres a thing that always amazed me, but almost never hit me in person.
okay, imagine: big assembly, second/third day, talk and new book/magazine released, brothers sitting on boxes full of the released publication, singing, prayer, run!
have you ever felt that rush of happiness that gives many jws that sparkle of joy in the eyes when a new publication is released?
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Missanna
yeah my parents were those kind. We had a huge family 6 kids so my dad would assign one of us to go and get 4 copies from this brother and assign another one of us to go to another brother and get 4 more. pretty sad. then he would stay up all night reading that publication in the hotel room highlighting and underlining like a maniac and then if we hadn't read it in a week he would take us aside and ask why we werent zealous to read the societies books. it was pretty bad
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memories
by Missanna inreading some of these comments brought up a situation to mind.
another thing that brought doubt into my mind was when i first became a pioneer... unfortunately... i was talking to one of the most looked up to pioneer sisters in my hall (over zealous, elders wife) one day out in service and she pulled me to the side and wanted to discuss my association with another young sister in the hall.
this young sister was my best friend.
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Missanna
reading some of these comments brought up a situation to mind. Another thing that brought doubt into my mind was when i first became a Pioneer... unfortunately... i was talking to one of the most looked up to pioneer sisters in my hall (over zealous, elders wife) one day out in service and she pulled me to the side and wanted to discuss my association with another young sister in the hall. This young sister was my best friend. we had been best friends since we were 5 and we saw eachother through many many hard times and this sister had the gawl to tell me now that i'm a pioneer i shouldn't associate with her because she is still not babtized and she was 17 years old. if she wasn't babtized by her age she must have doubt in her mind that this is the truth. i was so upset. i didn't know what to think. i am not as close to her anymore but i was so mad because this sister was saying just because i was a pioneer since i'm better than my friend now i need to not associate with her anymore. she also told me that it worried her that i was referring to her as my best friend. Is that loving?? and aren't pioneers suppose to be humble?
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Attended Memorial Service, disgusted...
by Wasanelder Once inout of loyalty to a friend that died i went to his memorial service today.
get this, in 30 minutes of service his name was said 3 times.
three times.
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Missanna
I'm sorry that happend to you. A JW friend of mine commited suicide a couple of years ago. It was very dificult for everyone to be there because the situation was so sad and the husband was going insane with greif and it Pissed the shit out of me that all the people could talk about was if she would be resurrected or not. I was a very zealous witness back then and even with the brainwashed view i had on everything it was bottom line WRONG! Again, i'm sorry for your loss and you have every right to be pissed about it and disgusted.
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Your Opinion On Text Messaging While Driving
by minimus inthat i think is crazy but most younger drivers do it.
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Missanna
i guess you guys are right. i'll try not to text while driving anymore... its safe to drive again everyone you can come out.
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Your Opinion On Text Messaging While Driving
by minimus inthat i think is crazy but most younger drivers do it.
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Missanna
i do it all the time. I text more than i talk so i know where most of the letters are from memory so i can look at the road sometime while texting. lol
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Watchtower Hate
by ThomasCovenant inreading through a thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/133948/1.ashx apoint being discussed was whether the wt has told people to hate others.
i thought these quotes may be of value.. wt 1961 15th july page 420 .
when a person persists in a way of badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of his make-up, then in order to hate what is bad a christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked.
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Missanna
this stuff is what i don't get. it is plain right there in front of the faces and they don't see it. how can individuals allow themselves to be so controlled and brainwashed that they don't see things like this?? it still is hard for me to phathom how i could have been controlled for so long. i was a pioneer and i didn't see all the obvious signs that this wasn't Jehovah's people. Do you think people will ever realize they are being brainwashed?