Posts by StephaneLaliberte

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Happy Alcoholic Jehovah's Witnesses

by The Bethelite in

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for many years since the witness organization, after i have told people that i'm no longer a jehovah's witness, people would say "oh the religion were people are not allowed to drink!".

"no they drink alright.....they can't do much of anything else but they do drink!".

in fact the first place i ever got drunk was bethel.

StephaneLaliberte

Alcohol is "don't hear don't tell". If no one complains about it, or if you don't go out of your way to confess to it, Elders won't do anything about it.

In general, they appear more concerned to what you do while intoxicated rather than simply being drunk. If you did nothing wrong while drunk, you can use excuses such as :

- I wasn't aware that I could not mix some medecine with alcohol (My favorite).

- I had worked all day and was burned out, I can see how this was missunderstood as "drunk".

- I have an extremly low tolerence to alcohol, one drink and I'm out.

However, if you trashed a party while being touchy feely with the sisters, no excuses will work.

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New JW Site - feedback please

by Jake101 in

hi.

we've just launched readjw.info and we'd value this forum member's feedback please.. especially see what you think of our jw timeline piece... thanks!.

your fellow traveller .

StephaneLaliberte

While the site is certainly full of information and well designed, I'm not sure it will appeal to JWs. It seems to be a christian view of JWs, which is a bit too removed from JWs to identify with.

That being said, this is clearly the result of a great amount of work and can only applaud you for it.

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so i use to go this hall that was basically 100 percent white and basically anyone under the age of 40 has either faded or makes a token effort to keep the peace at home, of course outside of the usual dregs of society .

the hall went from two congs to one and i was quite happy that in ten years they would be lights out.

then in the last two years about six young filipino families have moved in and three of them are newly baptized .

StephaneLaliberte

Racisim means that you judge someone based on their race. What is happening here is a trend based on the culture/environment in which people were raised.

For instance, many of us, on this forum, were raised as JWs. In addition, many left way beyond becoming of age. Were we stupid? No. We did the best with the information and experiences to which we were exposed.

It is the same with many immigrants.

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Cost to build a hall and the lies of the cult

by JimmyYoung in

i was listening to a podcast on cost to build a hall and there was a brother from the stage saying it costs the cult half a million to build a hall.

lol its bs.

there is no fing way that it cost the cult a half million to build a hall.

StephaneLaliberte

Usually, in quebec, the rule is: Labor + material + land

Labor is generally equal to the material cost (or a bit more).

Using this logic, lets say WT could sell a KH for 500k. Land might be worth 150k. Thus, material would be 175k. This means that Watchtower would pay 325k for a 500k property. removing other expenses (such as chairs, decoration, etc.), net profit could be around 100k.

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November 2019 Watchtower Study....Exaggeration at its finest

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | november 2019. lessons we can learn from the book of leviticus.

16 satan and his world have done much to make the work of that faithful slave challenging, even impossible, to carry out from a human standpoint.

despite two world wars, relentless persecution, global economic crises, and unjust treatment, the faithful and discreet slave has continued to provide spiritual food for christ’s followers on earth.

StephaneLaliberte

I accepted these broad statements until I tried to quantify them in comparassion to other religions. When I did look into quantifying/fact-checking them, it is when I realized these were non arguments.

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'Experiences(tm)'! Made up or totally true??

by punkofnice in

at one assembly(tm), i was asked to relate an 'experience(tm)' which i did.

however, during rehearsals, the geezer in charge elder or co or some such title, told me that i shouldn't tell it the way it was.

i did a 're-enactment(tm)' with another 'brother(tm)'.

StephaneLaliberte

Back in high school, I was late so often that one day, I was sent to the principal’s office. And so, while sitting in front of him, the National Anthem started to play over the school speakers. He got up from his chair and, looking at me, asked why I didn’t stand up. I told him I was a JW and he got extremely aggressive and told me there would be a world of trouble if I didn’t get up. I told him that it would probably be a better show of respect for the National Anthem to remain silent until the end. Is face turned into a darker red and he turned his back on me. In the meantime, I prayed to God to calm him down. At the end, he calmly turned back, gave me a permission slip and told me to get out of his office.

Attributing his change of attitude to God, I shared the story with an Elder who wanted me to present the story in front of the congregation. However, he wanted to change “why” I was in the principal’s office in the first place. He wanted to make up some other reason and I didn’t want to lie. So, I never delivered that experience on stage.

Never regretted it.

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New baptism contract

by resolute Bandicoot in

hi all, a little while back we had a thread on the topic a new baptism contract, specifically question two, in that the "in association with gods spirit directed organisation" has been dropped.

we had two circuit level baptisms in australia since the story started getting around where the old wording was still being used and i was starting to think that it was just a rumor.. the melbourne international convention this passed weekend used the new contract, in which the claim of spirit direction is rolled back.

i would share here if i could post a mp3 file.. what will be next 1914 swept under the carpet?.

StephaneLaliberte

"Spirite directed".They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

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Elon Musk, And The CyberTruck That Homer Built

by Simon in

i think tesla and musk have officially jumped the shark.. did you see the "cybertruck" they released?

it's like the car that homer built!.

it has to be the ugliest vehicle ever built.

StephaneLaliberte

I gotta tell you, I often fantasised about having a "Mad Max" car. One that looks like shit, that I could care less if people bumped into, but that would work like hell. You know, the type of car that people would actually be afraid of knowing full well that could be the type of vehicule that won't stay at the site of an accident?

Maybe that is what they were going for. That being said, I can achieve my objective by pimping an old car and it would be the fraction of the cost of that beast. So, not sure I understand the purpose here.

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How Many Here Are Estranged From Your Family Because Of The Witnesses?

by minimus in

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do your jw relatives still talk to you?

are you now not very close?

are you avoided?

StephaneLaliberte

I have somewhat limited contact with my parents and last time I talked with my extended JW family was a few years ago now. If they see me at a funeral or wedding somewhere, they won't ignore me. In fact, they will take full advantage of the moment to catch up and frankly, so will I. Its just that since I'm inactive, they will limit the exchange to those special occasions.

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Just for fun...

by Vidiot in

…(and for the very first time), i thought i'd post a new topic completely non-wt-related... about a subject matter i have a particular affinity for.... ..i'm a major movie geek (most people here already know that), but one of the many things i especially like are what i call "middle-finger victory lines".. they are memorable (and extremely quotable) moments of dialogue, wherein the protagonist says an extremely cool or badass comment to a very deserving defeated opponent.... ...usually (but not always) said when victory has just been literally snatched from the clutches of certain defeat, and serving as a tall, proud, and victorious flipoff to the often (but not always) shocked-at-the-sudden-turn-of-events enemy.. my ten favorites:.

"smile, you sonofabitch.

"sheriff brody to the shark......just before firing his last bullet into a scuba tank lodged in the charging shark's open jaws.jaws (1975).

StephaneLaliberte

"It's just been revoked!" - Lethal Weapon 2