this goes along with my dumb things to get dfed for....thread.. i was pretty lucky and i was a good boy for most of my 52 years in the "borg.
" just a few brushes with the boys in the back room.. don't you just love their line....."so tell me brother...is their anything else you should to tell us about?
we have been talking to your friends".
I'd say the closest thing to "trouble" that I had gotten into was when an elder pulled me into the "back room" and jump down my throat for being alone with my ex-fiancee(we were a couple at the time) in a car. It was during the daytime when it happened and I was just taking her to a doctor's appointment.
R.F.
last week was a bit of a milestone.
missed the entire co visit for the first time.
son went out every day i think, plus pioneer meeting, plus ms meeting, plus three other meeting (i know they call it five).
Oompa, i'm glad this is working for you and I wish you the best on this.
Now that I really think about it, I didn't do a fade at all, I just stopped completely. I was active at all the meetings and pioneering, then the next week I was gone. I guess that for me when dealing with the BOE and getting out of priveleges burdens was the process that I found the most challenging. Other than that, just severing all JW activities completely can definitely work.
There are different circumstances for each individual that requires them to fade slowly.
R.F.
hello all, robert here.. i just wanted to keep you updated on my current situation.
as many of you know i was finally deleted as a ms and pioneer.
now i'm hardly receiving any contact from the local jws.
Why is everyone so freaked out about the avatar???
KW13, it truly is nice to get freedom. I just never knew how much I was missing in the last few years.
Snakes, it's weird that you mention it as my "former" congregation. That really makes more sense now. When I run into many local Dubs now it seems that i'm no longer part of the congregation. They don't really have much to say to me.
A St. Louis area Apostafest sounds like a great idea. If it was planned i'd definitely give it a shot at attending.
R.F.
how many non-jw's know exactly what the jw's 'kingdom message' consists of?.
i had a jw tell me that they are known for preaching the 'kingdom message' so i asked him the same thing i am asking the fine people on jwd..
The JW Kingdom message is... "Study the publications bible with us, come to our meetings and be saved."
To answer you're question, I don't think many people know what the "Kindgom message" is. Many that i've run into don't even know much about Jehovah's Witnesses.
R.F.
i've noticed lots of people posting here that have never been witnesses.
since the nature of this forum is mostly about.
the issues and problems ex-jws face and about keeping an eye on developments within the wt org, why would anybody .
Some are here to support those that have been through these experiences. There is one particular poster here that has been a tremendous supporter to me in recent months and has never been a JW.
hello all, robert here.. i just wanted to keep you updated on my current situation.
as many of you know i was finally deleted as a ms and pioneer.
now i'm hardly receiving any contact from the local jws.
Hello all, Robert here.
I just wanted to keep you updated on my current situation.
As many of you know I was finally deleted as a MS and Pioneer. Now i'm hardly receiving any contact from the local JWs. However, one elder has been giving his all in contacting me in the last couple of days. I knew by his authoritarian tone and the frequency of calls that he wasn't checking on my well-being. He never cared much about me to begin with.
Anywho, something was telling me to let my sister know about this. Well come to find out, she told me that she doesn't like the congregation and sees why it's number of members are dwindling. By the way, my sister never was baptized, she only studied with a pioneer sister for quite a while, never making any "progress" after that.
The elders like to try to reach me through my family when it's obvious that I avoid them. Sis said that they better not try contacting her AT ALL. I also told her that I was avoiding them and she understands why completely! I was surprised about that! There are some congregation members that she herself doesn't like and avoids.
There was also a tad little bit of info I forgot about. A couple years ago, I caught sis online reading apostate material. I didn't even care back then. The funny thing about this is the fact that mom went in the room and started reading as well. Of course, before she started reading, she was saying how it's probably a bunch of lies, but as she sat in front of the computer screen she was in complete silence as she read. I was shocked that both of them even read it in the first place.
Even though that has taken place before, I don't want to tell them just yet about me true feelings about the entire organization. I'll let time reveal to me as to how I will handle that.
As for me, i've been in a much chipper mood lately. I had been very down about alot of things, but as many of you have reminded me, i'm going through a grieving process after so much that has happened in recent months.
I'll also mention again the mini-apostafest we had had here in the Little Rock, AR area. So many good laughs that I needed, and I hope to meet many more of you in person eventually.
Ok so perhaps this update isn't much shorter than the others, but thanks for reading anyways.
Robert
i can remember about 2 years before i exited the org i had a terrible dilema which didn't really have anything to do with my doubts in relation to doctrine.. the problem was hearing over and over and over about the fact that being in the org was 'the best place to be'.
that the brothers were 'true friends'.
didn't they have a video out called 'ypa - how can i make real friends?'.
I can relate to you on so many levels.
I always felt that I couldn't trust anyone in the congregation, based on reasons you've stated. I didn't feel refreshed at all after spending time with them. It had gotten to the point to where I just avoided any gatherings with them altogether.
On the other hand......
I myself have rekindled relationships with non-JW family members and it's been great. The "worldly" people aren't so bad after all, and they were actually here for me through recent difficult times than any JW was.
R.F.
(this story fits a late 90's me) --- it's a dreary grey afternoon and the last desperate drops of rainare splattering themselves against the window of the small town cafe.
i stare into the bottom of my coffee and swirl the speckleddark grounds into a tiny hurricane in a pale chipped cup and smile.
the sisters across from me are laughing.
Great post inkling.
I felt all the time that I was accomplishing absolutely nothing while pioneering. Yet, as we were taught, even if you are out knocking on doors and no one answers, you have God's approval. I try not to complain about the few years that i've wasted on it. I'm so happy that I found out the truth about "the truth" while being so young and now spend that time doing more worthwhile things, like sleeping in on a Saturday morning when it's extremely cold outside.
R.F.
in my dealing with many active jws, the whole thing just seems so superficial, everything is about being seen to be doing the right thing :.
being seen at meetings (bums on seats = salvation)brotherly love bombing for newcomers - the love fades after baptismmiss some meetings and the congregation regards you as weak and starts to avoid youyour life-long friends vanish at the first sign of your "weakening"the enforced dress-codeetc etc.
am i right about this - is it all a veneer ?
You can be the most UnChristian person in the world yet you are "better off" than the exact opposite person that doesn't attend meetings. Very much like you said, it's about being seen.
R.F.
have you noticed how hard it is to spot people in the organization with flair and talent; you know, .
the people who can sing, dance, write, draw or have interesting intellectual conversations about life.
when i go to the hall, i hear the same boring conversations over and over again.
It is so sad. The uniqueness of every individual is something very beautiful to me. I hate to see all of that tossed out the window by the religion.
R.F.
