Posts by fresia

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Billions of Lives Depend On This?

by R.F. in

the greatest work of all time, never to be repeated, is supposedly done by jehovah's witnesses.

of course you know i'm referring to the door to door work they take part in.

so many lives are at stake and your life is dependent on if you "accept the good news" that they preach.. i surely don't believe this anymore.

fresia

I guess I get a little touchy as I still have family and friends that sincerly believe they are doing what is right. Though there are other groups that do spread there beliefs, JW do far more preaching activity than most.

I know that some in the org, do it for the glory and many do it to just get their hours in so they won't be classified as inactive, it really is sad, and I can't stand what the GB are doing, I really hope that some sort of revolution happens with in and those genuine Christians break away.

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FDS can read hearts/minds of the dead & know personal destiny.

by oompa in

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wt- july 15, 2007 study article page 18 par.

"yes, judas felt remorse after the betrayal, but he never repented of his deliberate sin.

consequently, judas is not worthy of a resurrection.. wow!

fresia

Judas felt so ashamed for what he did, he obviously thought there would be no forgivness, so he hung himself.

Maybe he had bi/polar or deep depression. Jehovah is the judge.

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Will Armageddon Ever Come?

by tula in

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three years ago, the buzz was "its just around the corner".. two years ago, it was "almost at the door".. one year ago it was "at the threshold".. now the watchword is "the door of the ark is closing".. could it be that the new "members only" publications will now isolate a small inner core of this group?

what do you think will be the outcome?

what do you foresee for the jw's in one years time?

fresia

Well I guess it is the end of the whole system not like the fall of Babylon or Jerusalem, it is the big deal the whole ending of this wicked system. I believe that the system will be done away with, when I don't know, and I think that was the biggest mistake from the WTS in trying to predict dates. Jesus talked about the season, and gave signs as to when that day may be near. But no one knows not even the son but only the father.

I would still like to believe that there will be an end to crime, poverty injustice cruelty and that God has all that under control.

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Billions of Lives Depend On This?

by R.F. in

the greatest work of all time, never to be repeated, is supposedly done by jehovah's witnesses.

of course you know i'm referring to the door to door work they take part in.

so many lives are at stake and your life is dependent on if you "accept the good news" that they preach.. i surely don't believe this anymore.

fresia

I think RF you are being a bit hard. I do know of witnesses that actually love the preaching work they enjoy talking about Jehovah and the hope and they find this is the main joy in their lives.

However, I really think it depends on how full someones life is, and yes many don't enjoy witnessing, but considering the beginnings and how it has expanded, I must say that JW in general have done an exceptional work, I don't see other r/f from other religions doing anything like that. So you saying God could have got some other better group, he didn't did he. Give credit where due, they aren't all that bad, some but definately not all.

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How has it worked out for Jah?

by darth frosty in

recently, i have been very retrospective about myself and how i do things.

what led me to this forum was a search to find what went wrong with me and the witness religion.

since then i have used intense study and research to find the why's and how's of my failures in life(be it religious, love or friendships.

fresia

I think a lot of whats in the bible is written with two points of view, for example there were two tribes of Hebrews, the north and the east (think that is correct) they both hated one another, though they both worshiped Yahweh. So having similar stories but different results at times, the bible does contradict itself.

I think mankind made religion to protect itself, the Gods of the bible are numerous, and always challenging the Hebrew God Yahweh or vice versa, look at Pharoah and the plagues ect.

God is a creator not a fighter, he fought for the Isrealites to show he was with them because that is what they wanted. This ongoing battle between good and evil will soon end. The biggest problem the Isrealites had was trying to understand why bad things happen to good people and why good things happened to bad people. They continually put their own standards up and failed to understand or listen to what God said and why these things occured. They continually failed. God allowed the Hebrews all their religion and failings, even to have a king sit on a thrown to represent him. That failed.

We as humans need to attain the oneness Jesus talked about, the simplicity of the spiritual oneness.I simply think that God allowed all this to happen in the hope that our free will and spiritual mind will be used to return to him, through the teachings of Jesus. Love and obedience to the law of Love thats it.

Mankind have to learn and grow, when religion is no longer (hopefully that will be soon) and people start to try and live the spiritual life Jesus preached the Godly law of love for him and one another, only then will we know the mind of God.

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Celebrity Jehovah Witnesses

by Blackboo in

how come the watchtower never comment on famous jehovah witnesses..?

terrance howard said he wants to "become a jehovah witness" but he is in a movie by watchtower standards warrant disfellowship action.

how come current witnesses dont see through the bs?

fresia

I think some modern day celeb JW's are not really active or baptized. Those that are don't really draw attention to themselves, I understand where you're coming from though, because some that claim to be JW really do give a bad witness with the suss lifestyle, don't know why nothing is mentioned.

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offers to study after going inactive!!

by gabriella in

i just recieved my third offer to have a bible study after being inactive for several years.

hello,, i remember where the kh is if i wanted to attend and i think after five meetings a week my whole life i know what the teachings are without having another "study".

i just found it very degrading and arrogant to assume that there must be something "wrong with me" or that i "needed help".

fresia

They had a special talk at the last district assembly on helping inactive ones back into activity. Gave examples of ones that were out for nearly twenty years and came back after resuming a study. So it was advised to especially all elders and r/f if they know of someone inactive to get them back to the hall before the end.

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Our PO just confess to one of us: He doesn't believe anymore

by outofthebox in

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maybe we are the crazy ones!

but, after a chat with the po of our congo, we felt a little better with the knowledge that we are not alone on the inside.

let us explain .... today we went to the ministry as every saturday :(.

fresia

Elders discuss who among them are potential apostates and you may have been chosen. Who knows

I would be very causious, I myself have been the targot of silly inuendos and questions from my book study overseer, he obvioulsy mistrusted me, because some rat must have told him something I said, like not offering litriture and only using the bible. I was asked about 1975 and my view also he said one thing that will never change in 1914 waiting for a reply form me, and other things like did you know someone from the GB turned apostate and wrote a book, whats his name, I said I never heard of it.

Someone has told them something you have said and he is on youre tail, I don't believe what he said about his doubts, its smells like a trap, why you ?

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How Many of us Have Shared Our Stories on JWD ? Helps us Know you Better

by flipper in

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just thought of starting this thread because of the problem of living in an emotionally disconnected society as we do.

some of us have shared our personal stories with you all, my wife and mine was , " the story of mr. & mrs. flipper ".

i think it would be good to share some insight into ourselves , then perhaps others on the board will be understanding more deeply about posts that we start.

fresia

if you want to know go to http://www.exjwslosangeles.org

Mouthy that is a beautiful web site, and the music is wonderful. I don't live far from the Blue Mountains actually. A couple of hours on the train.

cheers

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The peace racket

by John Doe in

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a growing movement is pushing a worldview that ignores history's lessons about strength and appeasement.. by bruce bawer.

september 2, 2007.

'if you want peace, prepare for war," counseled the roman general flavius vegetius renatus more than 1,600 years ago, echoing the sage advice given nine centuries earlier by the chinese military strategist sun tzu.

fresia

Globalisation is invasion legally. Multicultralism in a certain many more numbers from a paticular place is invasion legally and cultral suicide.

Suttle aren't they.