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I thought the illustration regarding the water given to David actually made the point of taking blood rather than not taking it. Along with their point about bleeding the animal correctly and having some residue left. All symbolic

Yes the jews were forbidden to eat meat with blood. Yet all meat has blood. But as the paragraph states: as long as the procedure of draining the meat of its blood was followed then the respect for blood (life) was shown. Thus the trace blood consumed was of no consequence. We all know that, BUT.............
JEHOVAH DETAILED HIS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DRAINING OF BLOOD FROM MEAT THAT WAS TO BE EATEN.
THAT IS IT!!! Dont eat meat that has not had this process applied first. This was the command. Jehovah knew they would eat blood and that was okay, as long as the meat was drained as he outlined.

Where did Jehovah outline the process for blood transfusions?? The draining of blood was an "act" done to show Jehovah God respect for the life taken. It wasnt about consumption of blood, it was a demonstration that we appreciate that Jehovah sustains us with the life of the animal we just took.

But as we all know, no life is taken when a transfusion is made. The "act" does not apply. The "act" only applied AFTER an animal was killed. A blood transfusion has no loss of life thus no "act" is needed. To say so is applying the necessity of the "act" retroactively.
It is symbolic. SYMBOLIC. Dont eat dead animal blood until you do this first, then you can eat dead animal blood.
To go beyond this is like saying that Adam & Eve could not eat any fruit that resembled the fruit of the forbiden tree because obviously that fruit is precious to God so not only must we follow Gods command, we must apply this principle to everything else!

Yet the ultimate irony is that if we are to read into the prohibition on eating animal blood to include blood transfusions by saying: "well the bible says to pour it on the ground!" Then how does one justify fractions????? Was this blood "poured out?" NO!
Thus this cannot be the WTS justification of banning blood, if it was then blood fractions would be banned too.

Ultimately, the WTS has to have another reason to scripturally support its blood ban than the ol' pour it on the ground logic. Otherwise, I am going to have my local Deli make me up a batch of Blood Fraction Sausage !!

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Watchtower Articles Needed

by skeeter1 in

i need to get my hot little hands on two articles.

if you have the original magazines, that's great.

either post or p.m. me.. watchtower 9/1/87: a time to speak, when pages 14-15. watchtower 8/15/97: why report what is bad, page 30. thanks,.

still_in74

wow, nice job Atlantis.

Why you need them??

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Winds of change re: charities

by belbab in

today's ny times had an article on taxation for charities.

watchtower better start putting up their wind screens.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/us/26tax.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin.

still_in74

And, concerned about the way some churches are spending money, the Senate Finance Committee has asked for detailed financial information from six evangelical ministries asking them to justify their tax exemptions.

how many evengelical ministries are there with considerable enough assets to warrant the curiousity of the US Senate? I would suspect the WBTS must be one of them....

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My Bethel Experience Part 15

by new boy in

the courtship from hell.......i started driving up to rhode island in september of 1972. i would go about every other week.

i needed to "step down" as a book study servant, because at the time daryl christianson had come up with this brillant idea that all the book study conductors should visit everyone in their own book studies and everyone in someone else's book studies every 2 months.........so between, bethel, and a part time "g" job, going up to rhode island and shepparding everyone in the book studies, it was just to much.

so for the first time in my life, i declined a "privilege of service"........it didn't feel that bad......and in fact felt damn good.......little did i know i was leaving one hell for another one.. what i 'm about to tell you...........is the absolute truth!..........we had 2 dates in a year and a half........that is two dates in 18 months.........."2" dates...........the only time they would let us be together with out a chaperone was in the field service...........the whole courtship was spent on her parents couch in the living room......with one of them in the other room!

still_in74

Part 15?
I'll go back to catch up.
btw thanks

likewise!

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letter read at theo school this week

by buffalosrfree in

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friends

letter had to do with checks written at the upcomig district conventions (bs sessions) checks are not the be made out to watchtower but are to be made out the congreagtion of jehovah witnesses.

what gives with this anyone want to hazard a guess?

still_in74

checks are not the be made out to watchtower but are to be made out the congreagtion of Jehovah Witnesses

everyone knows that all changes like this are about money. Even intelligent JW's know this.

Most likely it has to do with a protection of assets. the Watchtower is likely more of a corporate entity where the congreagtion of Jehovah Witnesses has probably been set up under different legal loop holes that provides further tax sheltering or protection/obfuscation of company/church assets.

It is highly likely, as suggested, this change has happened as a result of recent lawsuits regarding pedophiles. The WTS will no doubt be making many many changes in the coming months to further protect itself from litigation and liability. Some we will see, such as this, the majority will be back-office legal dept. changes that none of us will ever know about.

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How Many Here Still Attend Meetings Sometimes?

by shamus100 in

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friends

?

if so, how often.. do you still attend the memorial?.

i never go, ever, and haven't been to a memorial in about 6 years (been too long to accurately remember) - i'm too far gone.

still_in74

....and blowing many minds away at the Kingdom Hall when it comes to Christian freedom!
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

a brother asked me how is it I have managed to shed any and all guilt. I think he was both intrigued and trying to make a point. I have no guilt and I make sure anyone that tries to guilt me knows that!

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How Many Here Still Attend Meetings Sometimes?

by shamus100 in

jw
friends

?

if so, how often.. do you still attend the memorial?.

i never go, ever, and haven't been to a memorial in about 6 years (been too long to accurately remember) - i'm too far gone.

still_in74

Now I'm DA'd.
Never goin back.... ever...

YOU ARE?? Did you post your letter??

As for me.... I am very regular. Like Open Mind I use any excuse to miss though. Oddly enough I attend more meetings than my wife does!

I like being viewed as the "spiritually weak" brother, and then dropping bombs at the book study and pulling out the HUGE comments about stuff the conductor doesnt even have a clue about. I am sure this throws people off....

still_in74

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