welcome.
what was the april 07 WT about?
and kudoos for your courage on breaking out.
welcome.
what was the april 07 WT about?
and kudoos for your courage on breaking out.
"The end came for me with unqualified janitors, window washers and car salesmen with AT MOST a G12 education making life impacting decisions for those in their charge. The way out has been a very long and complex road for me, but unqualified mouthbreathing morons in positions of authority was the last straw."
brilliantly said.
i don't know the keyboard shortcut for applause, so i'm applauding.
...seat of my mothers car.
worth reading: .
from: william rivers pitt: .
wow, i'm literally freaking out.
i was working on a bit for my comedy routine back in the day, about how most people who commit suicide are cowards and the manly thing to do would be to set yourself on fire....then, i turned it into a car jacking, just to mess with people's heads. 'drive' i'd say in burning flesh.
i never fully developed it, but always thought it would be a good scene for a film.
dying by self induced fire is probably the lowest percentage of suicides.....the horrid pain before finally dying or worse not dying.
i remember the scene in 'harold and maude' where bud cort pretended to set himself on fire in the backyard.....for comedic affect it was spot on.
i've had five significant suicides in my life b/t friends and family. i know the way people chose to die says something about their pain. and the more violent the act, the more confusing.
i believe fire is worse that a gun shot.
i appreciate your story, truly amazing.
i'm not sure if it was mentiopned.
but i think that we are talking about not just one call from each person, but we are talking about spending a good length of time calling repeatedly.
othrwise it just won't have much of an impact.
great idea on the molestation hush money settlements billboard.
if everyone here put in a few bucks, it could be a possibility. i'm sure prime billboard real estate in brooklyn has to be in the five figures though....maybe on the way to patterson, is that still around, or the stanley theatre?
i'm not sure if it was mentiopned.
but i think that we are talking about not just one call from each person, but we are talking about spending a good length of time calling repeatedly.
othrwise it just won't have much of an impact.
funny, but a teenage prank that would be a waste of my time.
if others do it, i can care less either way.
there are classier ways to get them.
i suggest writing a book...i'm assuming english isn't your first language from this post, so in your native language.
some of us deal with our anger in different ways, so this call to arms is unconvincing.
if someone had a talent for impersonating voices, and was familiar with the voices of the various governing body members, now that would be a kick, to start the conversation very geniune, then slip in a swear word or innuendo here and there. or something like: this is brother _______, and we found porn on your computer. will you please come to your room right now as we need to settle this. i do not care if no one will cover the phones, your attendance to this matter is manditory and will show your attitude to the gravity of the situation that you've put us in by agreiving jehovah's holy spirit.
this is my first post after many years of reading this site.
i am from the west midlands, england.
i was raised as a jw and got baptised aged 17, started "fading" whilst at university when i started to broaden my outlook and realised that all the so-called "worldly people" i had for so long been encouraged to avoid associating with were actually often open-minded, honest, generous and loyal people.
welcome.
i too faded and had the mass unfriending exodus happen. i was one of those guys that had 100's of friends and was very social. to lose all of that really messed with my head, which is part of the reason to be away from that conditional friendship based on wrong beliefs.
it was another wake up call of how wrong the org is, and very lonely as well.
i'm still trying to deal with it since the social coddling when one is a 'good' jw is intoxicating in itself.
but, those relationships are so toxic, loneliness is better than dishonest friendships.
i can see why people choose to stay in abusive relationships, b/c it's all they know and out there, independent and free, is a lonely place for a while.
know that you have someone on the other side of the world who feels your pain and understands.
congrads on your marriage and successful fade out.
i'm a baptized member considered ''inactive.
'' i don't hand in ''service reports'',attend maybe 3 meetings a month,ain't signed up for the ministry school and will never attend any convention or the ''book study.
'' always make the ''memorial.
after successfully fading nine years ago..going from irregular to completely inactive, i went to one meeting a year for the first four years, no meetings in the last five years, and i still attend the memorial (on pills), b/c 45 minutes of that is less pain than the freak outs i'd get from some relatives.
i've written some great poetry at the memorial since i always bring paper....wow, brother mono is taking notes, how encouraging
but i still have respect for christian philosophy, so i'll read along with the scriptures and let their misinterpretation fade out, then try to tune out the whole propaganda part 2 of the memorial talks....now that you've attended tonite, join us permanently or god will murder you at any moment, and can't you just feel the love here.
if 1000 years is as one day someone did the math of the 1000 years = one day equation (2 peter 3:8).. .
this is interesting: since a thousand years are in the eyes of jehovah as one day, we can look at history from jehovah's point of view like this:.
adam was created six days ago and jehovah made immediate plans to restore what he had lost for his offspring.. .
so, if 1914 is true, then we're only a couple of hours into the generation who will by no means pass away, which means we have about 79,000 years 'til god does anything.
there's the future 'light' the wtbts will give re: the generation, but they have to keep expectancy in our lifetimes in order to keep funding their publication business, so until then....
see you in the resurrection circa 99900 A.D. :)
thanks to scully, i have figured out where to put these letters so all that would like to access them and read them can do so.--just click on the link below.. don't expect a lot from the letters, as i am a brick mason and not the brightest bulb on the (new) christmas tree.. in my correspondence with the wt, i exerted all my effort to keep the discussion on just the un, even though i did have misgivings on other matters.
i thought if i was able to keep the discussion on just the un that it would prove to be more difficult for them to disfellowship me, as it was their conduct that i was opposing, conduct that violated their own teachings.. it worked to some extent, as they had to trump up charges on us that we started our own religion because we had the memorial celebration in 2006 with our family rather than at the kingdumb hall.
it was a real pleasure to be disfellowshipped for their sin.
great job on the letters....unfortunately, in their twisted reasoning, i'm sure they're stoked to get 'that bad influence' out of the congregation.
hopefully others will see how arrogant the wtbts is in dealing with their double standard and get out.
it's funny. i left in 1999, faded successfully, and the main reason i left was because of the air of arrogance among most of the congregation elders i had dealt with in my life....it finally hit me, if middle management is arrogant in a company, that's usually a trickle down from upper management, the ceo, etc., so why should it be different with jw organization.
little did i know that they were even more arrogant than i had ever thought after doing research a few years later.
if it was well known in the congregation and some elders knew also , if she had the affair before she got baptised with a disfellowshipped man would she not have to tell her husband before she got baptised ?
f&^k the congregation, if she's not honest with her fiance she shouldn't marry him and she's quite pathetic if she marries him w/o telling him.
it's about him and her and who gives a crap about the congregation.
i knew of a woman who was df'ed when she married a 'worldly' guy. he became a jw. she cheated on him while she was df'ed and never told him b/c she was reinstated and therefore 'saved' from a borg standpoint.
there's a C-WORD for such women.
borg loopholes have nothing to do with getting out of being honest in a relationship.
now wash to the elbows before eating and strain the gnat while gulping down the camel.