i remember being an MS and when the CO met with all the MSs and elders, it was a kiss ass love fest. the CO may as well have been jesus and everyone was shaped up and practically saying, 'yes masta'.
monophonic
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How the Circuit Overseer Manipulates the Body of Elders
by TMS inthe relationship between local elders and the circuit overseer has fluctuated over the years.
in the sixties, .
the circuit overseer simply appointed all the servants.
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Suicide
by Nicolas ini know it's a touchy subject, but anyone here has ever thought of suicide while they were still in the organization?
it seem to me that jehovah's witnesses have a much higher rate of suicide than the rest of the population.
i contemplated suicide myself when i was struggling to get piece of my life back together after being raised as a "perfect little jw" when i was young.
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monophonic
great topic.
two jw friends killed themselves. one inactive for years and another active.
i contemplated killing myself while i was still 'in' and thought that my lightly fooling around with a girl was going to get me dead at armageddon, so my rational was to kill myself and hope for a resurrection.
other jw teens have attempted suicide that i know of....and one guy i grew up w/ in the hall is in jail for murder....he completely lost it, had been losing it for a while, and flipped out.
of course in the 80's/90's, suicide and therapy was considered wrong, and it was suggested that jehovah's holy spirit had left the person and even family.
then they lightened up on being so harsh on families who have had suicides....so it was nice to see some reasonableness regarding them (elders) all of a sudden being nurturing...but forget about an apology from the wtbts for the damage they caused many families in these delicate situations over the years by witch hunting them instead of consoling them.
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nine pages of BS from October AWAKE
by purplesofa ini hope that some of you lurkers out here really take a look at some of the thread in this section of the board.
this awake magazine says not one thing about how families are asked to trust their elders and how these very elders were and are abusing their children.
it mentions nothing about watching out for these trusted men in the congregations.............oh it brings out the internet, other family members and fathers and males in particular.. it will tell you how much your child needs to do to prevent something like this from happening.
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"What makes me sick is that the WTS NEVER apologizes, never admits wrongdoing!"
that's the main reason I finally decided there was no going back ever. it's the actions of a predator, to divert the blame and never take responsibility....or a sociopath...one or both of those.
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bookworm?
by John Doe ini was just counting, and i've read 16 books over the last three months, not counting text books.
average length is 550 to 600 pages, which means i've read 8800 to 9600 pages this summer, plus another 1000 or so of textbooks, plus all the online bs i read.
think i'm going to wear my eyes out?
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monophonic
any book recommendations?
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The C word
by ness inhow do your minds work people??.
the word 'cult'.
who is comfortable saying they were raised in a 'cult' or were brainwashed temporarily by a 'cult'?.
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monophonic
by the way, ozzie, thanks for insinuating that there was hate speech in my post. really fu(*ing nice of you to throw that label around.
there was no hate speech, only swearing.
ozzie, that's pathetic that you put that as one of the reasons for taking the post down, please be HONEST, and edit that. if you'll read any and all of my posts you'll see i NEVER use hate speech.
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monophonic
i'm more attracted to assertive and challenging women, thus why i married the spitfire i chose to marry and we've lasted a long time and she still surprises me.
anyone who would want a "weak wife", mentally weak and submissive, those are men i could never respect or hang out with....i guess that's why i don't hang out with any jws.
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Trying to date in the organization...gossipers ruining relationships
by B_Deserter injehovah's witnesses are some of the worst gossipers i've ever encountered, especially when it comes to the dating habits of those in the congregation.
but, that's not really a surprise to most of us.
this story, however, makes me just shake my head and wonder why this guy doesn't question stuff.. there's a sister in my brother's hall that recently got a divorce.
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monophonic
being good looking or attractive as a jw teen/20-something really sucks b/c elders and other get jealous.
i had a so-called best friend turn out that she loved me and every time i showed interest in a sister, this best friend would spread nasty rumors about me to try to sabotage me.
i blame the elders along with her, b/c they were such idiots to put me through so much shit just b/c i didn't have romantic interest in someone who never voiced she had it for me.
things came to light when she tried to break up my wife and i.
she's still a jw rock star, which goes to show the mindset of who is 'good' and who is not.
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Trying to date in the organization...gossipers ruining relationships
by B_Deserter injehovah's witnesses are some of the worst gossipers i've ever encountered, especially when it comes to the dating habits of those in the congregation.
but, that's not really a surprise to most of us.
this story, however, makes me just shake my head and wonder why this guy doesn't question stuff.. there's a sister in my brother's hall that recently got a divorce.
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monophonic
b_deserter, i feel you. every dating relationship i went into....cleanly...the elders had to be up my ass for weeks/months to know my intentions were pure and 'was i planning on marrying her?'
'if it works out, yeah'.
by the time the elders would finally back off, i'd have time with the person and realize within a week there was no connection.
and 1/2 of romance has to do with timing....so this whole, putting things off can kill a relationship that has a chance to work out.
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blood fractions not allowed
by pippy ini just spoke to a friend who was a witness years ago when we were kids and she told me an interesting thing.
when she went to the hospital to discuss things due to her being pregnant and going to have a baby at this hospital , they told her that the brisbane and gold coast hospitals were no longer going to offer jw's blood fractions.
they are sick and tired of all the unclear sayings and that ppl dont even know what they will accept or not , and they are having so many problems that they have a new form to be filled out.
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monophonic
excellent. if the 'world' is seeing the flip flopping and double speak maybe active jws will too.
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The C word
by ness inhow do your minds work people??.
the word 'cult'.
who is comfortable saying they were raised in a 'cult' or were brainwashed temporarily by a 'cult'?.
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ah, found the rules, i guess i should see 'terms of use' but i'm so used to just clicking, 'yes, i agree, can i install photoshop now?' w/o reading that it's an easy thing to ignore.
anyway, implying the 'c' word is okay, but saying the actual innuendo is not. that's another of the many reasons why i left the jws is b/c of the double standards....the, oh you can say 'darn', but not 'damn', no wait 'damn' is okay.
so, you can say the 'c' word, ha ha, really mean 'cult', while everyone thinks 'c*$t', very funny=non-offensive.
(i have no issue with the original poster and feel this is a great topic)
then i use it in a context not to insult anyone here, but insulting the governing body w/ it...raise your hand if you haven't insulted the governing body in this forum, but, then people complain to the moderators and don't complain directly to this forum, which i find lame and pathetic.
i would've apologized, but some people are determined to escalate something and in the end it looks like my previous post could've been threatening to an insult to an individual, which it wasn't.
so, i found the rules. i've seen swearing on this site. i didn't insult or target anyone except the wtbts, but the moderators pull the whole message b/c of complaints, which might give the idea that i was being rash to individuals here and i was not.
that's my only beef, and that i couldn't have a chance to re-edit my post.
insinuating C%$t, is A-OK, writing out the whole word is not.
i'll continue to hang out and post since it is cathartic for me to read the information here and be in discussion and i intend no ill will.
whoever couldn't reply to my post and request i change things around b/c it's inappropo or they were offended, continue to stand behind the skirts of your mothers and complain to the moderators, i have no respect for you and would've had more if you told me to F-off. (again, f-off is okay i assume and puts the word in your minds, but don't write it b/c it's a harmful word.)
this double standard is pathetic, but i am not a moderator here, just voicing my opinion regarding this.
those who run this website, i'm am grateful for what you're doing, this is the best jw/ex-jw group i've seen on the internet and you have my full respect, except for this one issue which i won't press further, but felt it was important to bring up under my message, the message you wiped away b/c there was no explanation to the forum other than "there were complaints". most of my message should've been left in, was quoted further in the discussion, and could've been edited with "here he said c---- in the last sentence, and we don't allow that".