racism in the jehovah's witness watchtower.
it turns out to be a blog, but it got picked up by google news and the comments other than the writer's seem to be from jws just discrediting the post.. while he seems a little off his nut, since google picked it up, it might be a good idea to post informational comments for people who pass through..
Racism in the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower
it turns out to be a blog, but it got picked up by google news and the comments other than the writer's seem to be from jws just discrediting the post.
while he seems a little off his nut, since google picked it up, it might be a good idea to post informational comments for people who pass through.
did anyone see the information on a recent watchtower study article (w-07 0/01, p. 30, 16) in which a witness who quitted his job and started selling ice cream on the streets in order to have more time to preach, is presented as a good example?
i found it extremely offensive and asked myself: are they really serious or is this joke?
but the worst part is that no one else in the hall seemed to find it offensive, with the exception of a ministerial servant who privately told me it was an act of disrespect on the part of the society.
i love the information they leave out....what country in the 'orient'? aren't we calling it asia now?
he could've been doing tech support in a country that pays very little for educated workers....a technician in japan compared to a technician in beijing or elsewhere are completely different things.
so pathetic. may as well give an experience of a man in the americas who quit his full time job because there was more money in cock-fighting and now he pioneers.
note to the over sensitive, when i say cock-fighting i'm referring to the birds not the genitals.
i am hoping some of you will find a few moments of time to reply to this request for help.
i am researching the impact of the internet on people's journey out of jwism.
i invite everyone to write anything from a sentence to a couple of paragraphs (or more, if desired) relating how the internet has affected your exit.
the internet did nothing in affecting my decision for leaving. the horrid treatment of myself and others (when i was an 'a-ok' jw), finally clicked after i had been in about 8 congregations in my life and 5 of them were horrid, judgemental and didn't feel christian at all and three of them seemed like they were trying hard and weren't meddling every time someone made a fart at a meeting.
i left for good, faded out, with a feeling....not reading anything 'apostate' or on the internet. four years after fading out i read COC, then stepped up the research further on the internet.
so, it just took the congregations being themselves and treating people like dirt who deserved to be treated better....even when i was an MS i'd try to be friends with wits who the elders would ignore b/c they saw them as bad seeds and i couldn't understand why.....a older sister told me later that the only reason her son continued to come to meetings was because i didn't judge him and i was nice to him and didn't trip that he had long hair. i was 19 at the time and he was 15.
i really hope he didn't get sucked in b/c of me, but i thought i was doing the right thing at the time.
anyway, at 20 i faded, got sucked into a love study and lots of family trauma happened, so i was back 'in' at 22, then started fading again at 24.
this is big, very big.
bigger that pascal petite(well, just as big), bigger than the demonic hand or the rams head in the live forever book!!.
to present this properly, i will need a scan of the page in the live forever book where the thief is running from the police clutching a bag of goods.
unfortunately, the rank and file j-dub will say, there were apostates in bethel and i'm sure they've been removed and that jehovah has taken care of it.
i remember those exact words when i was "in".
i know the answer, because i am agnostic.
it is strange to me that people assume if you say you are agnostic that it means you don't believe in god.
from wiki.... agnostics claim either that it is not possible to have absolute or certain knowledge of the existence or nonexistence of god or gods; or, alternatively, that while individual certainty may be possible, they personally have no knowledge.
regarding being agnostic, i think that can be varied as well.
some agnostics i know are like 'f*&k it, i don't give a flying f---, can i bum a cigarette?' and others are searching for answers.
i think i fall in between, i'd like some answers, but so fed up with the 'we got the troof, hurrah' attitude i had to deal with for so many years, that not knowing is fine.
"All I know is that I don't know nothin'/ and that's fine"
- Operation Ivy
i wanted to alert people to a new article: a critical analysis of the jehovah's witness "knowledge" studies 1-5. if you'd like to read and/or link to this article it is available here:
http://accurateknowledge.org/knowledge.html
while i was living in new york city a few years back, the jehovah's witnesses knocked on my door.
great job. i only had time to read about 1/4 of it, but you've put together an excellent article.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yqj0-huvvw
he looks better than i do after a transatlantic flight and i'm about 50 years younger, but i'm usually all pilled up and drunk.
thanks for posting this, i want to shake his hand and kiss his cheek one day for helping me untangle the web of deceit in my belief system.
http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/books/603143,jacobs101407.article.
within the first months of trying to live by the rules of the bible, a.j.
jacobs started carrying around a portable seat so as not to sit after unclean women (leviticus 15:20).
that's the next book i'm reading and i'm still waiting for 'foreskin's lament' to come in the mail by auslander.
great concept, i've heard mixed reviews re: 'year of living bibically'...i have high hopes for 'foreskin's lament'.
this is maine my homestate so i couldn't let this pass.
building community in a hurry.
mainetoday.com, me -oct 10, 2007. hundreds of jehovah's witnesses are pitching in to put up a new kingdom hall in saco over two long weekends.
you know, this is what makes this forum so great, that we can come together and bust up an uninformed journalist who was just trying to make his word count quota for the week...and he didn't realize he was treading on thin ice doing a fluff piece on a kingdom hall build.
seriously, the comments posted rule...and i added my 2 cents as well.
hopefully it'll save someone from being converted or make a current jw victim step out of their headspace and investigate the wtbts further.
bravo!
this is one i would love to see busted.. jw were not the only ones to get a purple triangle in the nazi camps.
i bet they were not even the majority of the ones to receive them.. .
the purple triangle was a nazi concentration camp badge used by the nazis to identify several un-orthodox religious groups known as "bibelforscher".
and, to be fair, jehovah's witnesses were in concentration camps and did suffer needlessly along with other groups...the problem is the wtbts and their lovely information spins, conveniently forgetting they were in support of anti-semitism themselves, the mid-30's "oops".
i feel bad for everyone that had to go through that, but the wtbts hasn't been discreet about using it as a promotional tool, and scare tactic that this will happen again any second when the great trib comes, so everyone needs to stay close to the borg.
my jewish friends have told me that when they were young they were shielded from knowing too much about it until they were age appropo to know the horrific things that happened, yet, the congregations would discuss experiences in explicit detail even when kids were in the kingdom halls. i remember being very smart at 5 and 6 years old and scared to death of the imminent torture that was going to come at any moment......30 years ago.....a five year old kid scared he was going to prison.....if parents were found out to be filling their kids heads with such horror, today the kids would probably be taken away..
"daddy tells me i'm going to be tarred and feathered"...that would go over real well with a social worker or cop.
