i did'nt know so many people felt this why about jw's.
i just came across this site tonite.
i've been reading alot of the subjects and have a few questions here is one of them.
If I was ever part of this org. boy I'd question everything.
The irony is...then you wouldn't be part of the WTBTS organization.
Openly expressing diversity of thought isn't tolerated...appearing to conform is everything. 'Unity' is financially efficient and easier to administer adherents (Jehovah's Witnesses).
i was bored to death.
i deposited cards around the place that said .
stop.
I noticed the man in the picture is playing with a rubber ball.
Lost his other one during Armageddon, perhaps?
i have a friend named uhhh... timmm, who is in a bit of a quandary.
he has decided to go public with his apostate leanings, because it is becoming too hard to play the role of a meek, spiritually weak witness--complete with looks of pity and concern from his mother and siblings, and contempt from his sister-in-law.
timmm is sure one brother will have nothing to do with him after this, and he can live with that.
This is so distressing to Timmm that its making his hair fall out!
There may be the possibility that Timmm might have to begin to understand that his family is exhibiting or is affected by addictive, dysfunctional behavior similar to alcoholics and are so far gone there may be nothing he could do or say to save them from their plight, except seek professional counsel to extricate himself from their destructive cycle and save himself.
Edited by - Flip on 22 July 2002 20:23:32
some of you may have read some of my earlier posts about my job issues, well i followed the advice that some of you contributed and i'm on my way to starting my own business.
i have a fairly good strategy that i will attempt to follow but i'm back again for more advice.. my first goal is to obtain a business license and establish a business name.
tomorrow i'm going to spend a few hours at the library and try to read up a bit on the different ways to proceed with a small business.
J.C., what do you think of current situation in the stock market? ;-)
Sunshine, no sweat! Current Stock market indexes haven't reached the levels of 74 -75 which were an extremely distant second to the levels of the early 'Thirties'. Today's negative market anomaly isn't even in the same ball-park...yet.
In regards to the 74-75 market 'crash', I suspect, much to the chagrin of the WTBTS Marketing Department, and conversely, to the glee of the WTBTS Finance Department the market rebounded tremendously and says a lot for playing 'it' both ways. Or more to the point, if you intend to 'Advertise! Advertise! Advertise!' schlock, it might be best to Diversify! Diversify! Diversify!
Edited by - Flip on 21 July 2002 2:54:3
perhaps i'm just a bit paranoid..but i get the feeling that there are a few posters that actually hate me (before its assumed--no i'm talking about lack of responses to my threads.. and no i am not talking about a disagreement of opinion) i am talking about a few posters that come across to me as very hateful in their responses.. and yes i know that not everyone here will like me (even though i'm so darn sweet and cute...lol) but it is an intense animosity vibe that i get and can't seem to shake.. maybe i am mistaken and maybe its just me..... but if there is anyone out there that does dislike me that much---i am curious as to why---only because i try to learn and grow everyday and your input would be especially valuable and probably essential to that -growth.. so whats the verdict---do you love me, hate me or just not care either way?.
sincerely yours,.
ps--this is in no way an ego thing--i really want to know!
JC,Why are you so cross?
Perhaps He expects a stake in the finances of the WTBTS.
perhaps i'm just a bit paranoid..but i get the feeling that there are a few posters that actually hate me (before its assumed--no i'm talking about lack of responses to my threads.. and no i am not talking about a disagreement of opinion) i am talking about a few posters that come across to me as very hateful in their responses.. and yes i know that not everyone here will like me (even though i'm so darn sweet and cute...lol) but it is an intense animosity vibe that i get and can't seem to shake.. maybe i am mistaken and maybe its just me..... but if there is anyone out there that does dislike me that much---i am curious as to why---only because i try to learn and grow everyday and your input would be especially valuable and probably essential to that -growth.. so whats the verdict---do you love me, hate me or just not care either way?.
sincerely yours,.
ps--this is in no way an ego thing--i really want to know!
Carol, if I had to compliment every post that I thought poignant, pithy or pretty good I'd have little time to eat, sleep or work let alone read posts.
It's a mystery to me how others can take the time to post brilliant pieces of work at no cost to me and yet they can still afford a 'cable' connection.
Just do it!
Flip :)
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edited by - wildturkey on 20 july 2002 13:59:47.
Hang on, while I find my glasses!
Obviously another indication the WTBTS is hurting, now the corporation is resorting to printing their dopy directives on really small pieces of paper, making the rank and file carry the cost of eye-ware. :)
i say this because half the witnesses i knew never seemed to be into answering at meetings,preaching the good news,being united with others.you see when i got baptised which was about 2 years ago i was really into answering at meetings,preaching etc and guess what people in the hall thought there was something wrong with me,they would say things like youll get used to it, you wont be happy much longer,this made confused because i thought these people were really into what they did with there hearts.i was obviously wrong,i then started to wonder does going to meetings,preaching,etc really show your a true christian you know serving god with a whole heart,all these organised rules didnt really matter i thought,you see if these people had do bible research,arrange the preaching themselves do you think they would do it.i now believe that serving god through organisations doesnt really make you closer to god i think serving god on your own really shows ones heart condition and how much you love god.
p.s.
im not a" jw no more" and still working out religion etc, i do swear and lie now though lol
At one time I thought I did.
However, I had not yet accumulated enough life experience to compare with behaving as 'one of Jehovah's Witnesses' by not questioning the self- professed authority of the WTBTS.
Flip
greetings - would some one please confirm that the aug 2002 km has the article entitled "display christian loyalty when a relative is disfellowshipped" i want to be accurate with my quotes in this letter.
speaking of which, i'm sending the below letter to my jw family - if you have time please let me know your thoughts -thanks - larry :).
to all my practicing jehovah witness family members:.
Well let me reassure you that I will NEVER come back to the organization, I see it for what it is and I dont want any part of it. The views that you are forced to live by only makes me resent the fact that I was ever associated with such an organization.
As good as your letter is as a vehicle for venting you're not dealing with normally rational persons so don't be surprised when the family members in question dismiss your comments quickly, such as with the quote above, as they've been trained.
Larry, you are now on a completely different 'wave-length', as far as perception of terminology, than they, and way over their heads. Meaning, how your family will interpret your message will be very different than the feelings you are trying to convey, if they actually get that far in the letter.
Do what you have to do.
Flip
Ahem...is this thing on...tap tap....anyone out there?
Squelch...squeel...
"Guitar mike...?"
"Guitar mike...?"
"Some-times,
I feel
like a mo-ther-less child..."
Flip
PS apologies to Richie Havens
