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  MOTAS Help!!

  by faundy in

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  i hate this game already!

  i'm stuck on level two.

  the disk is in the computer but nothing happened.

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  eclipse

  on level 19 and not quite stuck but not getting anywhere fast
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  Egoism - An Essay by John Robinson

  by eclipse in

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  http://www.alamut.com/subj/the_self/misc/egoism.html.

  robinson: egoism .

  egoism .

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  eclipse

  Eclipse, are you trying to say that you are narcissistic? Or was this post intended for someone unnamed?

  No, I am not narcissistic and imho, people who are narcissistic, are to be avoided and ignored.

  The essay was simply posted and remarked as being eye-opening.

  I was not making any statement about myself and certainly about no one else.

  From that essay, I came to the following conclusions, and these are only my opinion:

  Egoism is the opposite of narcissism. For Egoists have no delusions of grandeur or power.

  Egoists are content within themselves, have no need to run anyone's life.

  Egoism is simply about being in control of one self and being fully responsible for one's own's actions.

  Egoism is about being an individual, their behaviors and actions are all conscious decisions.,

  not based on idealism or religious fevor or fanatical whim., unlike the narcissistic power-hungry personality type.

  Narcissism is destructive to those around them.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder#Narcissistic_personality_disorder_and_shame

  Diagnostic criteria

  At least five of the following are necessary for a diagnosis (as with many DSM diagnoses, they must form a pervasive pattern; for example, a person who shows these criteria only in one or two relationships or situations would not properly be diagnosed with NPD):

  1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
  2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
  3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by other special people
  4. requires excessive admiration
  5. strong sense of entitlement
  6. takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
  7. lacks empathy
  8. is often envious or believes others are envious of him or her
  9. arrogant behavior

  But I digress, This thread was only to share the article that Johnson wrote,

  This thread is certainly not about anyone in particluar.

  It just shows that a term with a 'negative' connotation can have an entirely opposite meaning.

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  Egoism - An Essay by John Robinson

  by eclipse in

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  http://www.alamut.com/subj/the_self/misc/egoism.html.

  robinson: egoism .

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  eclipse

  http://www.alamut.com/subj/the_self/misc/egoism.html

  ROBINSON: EGOISM

  EGOISM
  by John Beverley Robinson

  There is no word more generally misinterpreted than the word egoism, in its modern sense. In the first place, it is supposed to mean devotion to self interest, without regard to the interest of others. It is thus opposed to altruism--devotion to others and sacrifice of self. This interpretation is due to the use of the word thus antithetically by Herbert Spencer.

  Again, it is identified with hedonism or eudaimonism, or epicureanism, philosophies that teach that the attainment of pleasure or happiness or advantage, whichever you may choose to phrase it, is the rule of life.

  Modern egoism, as propounded by Stirner and Nietzsche, and expounded by Ibsen, Shaw and others, is all these; but it is more. It is the realization by the individual that he is an individual; that, as far as he is concerned, he is the only individual.

  For each one of us stands alone in the midst of a universe. He is surrounded by sights and sounds which he interprets as exterior to himself, although all he knows of them are the impressions on his retina and ear drums and other organs of sense. The universe for him is measured by these sensations; they are, for him, the universe. Some of them he interprets as denoting other individuals, whom he conceives as more or less like himself. But none of these is himself. He stands apart. His consciousness, and the desires and gratifications that enter into it, is a thing unique; no other can enter into it.

  However near and dear to you may be your wife, children, friends, they are not you; they are outside of you. You are forever alone. Your thoughts and emotions are yours alone. There is no other who experiences your thoughts or your feelings.

  No doubt it gives you pleasure when others think as you do, and Inform you of it through language; or when others enjoy the same things that you do. Moreover, quite apart from their enjoying the same things that you enjoy, it gives you pleasure to see them enjoy themselves in any way. Such gratification to the individual is the pleasure of sympathy, one of the most acute pleasures possible for most people.

  According to your sympathy, you will take pleasure in your own happiness or in the happiness of other people; but it is always your own happiness you seek. The most profound egoist may be the most complete altruist; but he knows that his altruism is, at the bottom, nothing but self-indulgence.

  But egoism is more than this. It is the realization by the individual that he is above all institutions and all formulas; that they exist only so far as he chooses to make them his own by accepting them. When you see clearly that you are the measure of the universe, that everything that exists exists for you only so far as it is reflected in your own consciousness, you become a new man; you see everything by a new light: you stand on a height and feel the fresh air blowing on your face; and find new strength and glory in it.

  Whatever gods you worship, you realize that they are your gods, the product of your own mind, terrible or amiable, as you may choose to depict them. You hold them in your hand, and play with them, as a child with its paper dolls; for you have learned not to fear them, that they are but the "imaginations of your heart." All the ideals which men generally think are realities, you have learned to see through; you have learned that they are your ideals. Whether you have originated them, which is unlikely, or have accepted somebody else's ideals, makes no difference. They are your ideals just so far as you accept them. The priest is reverend only so far as you reverence him. If you cease to reverence him, he is no longer reverend for you. You have power to make and unmake priests as easily as you can make and unmake gods. You are the one of whom the poet tells, who stands unmoved, though the universe fall in fragments about you.

  And all the other ideals by which men are moved, to which men are enslaved, for which men afflict themselves, have no power over you; you are no longer afraid of them, for you know them to be your own ideals, made in your own mind, for your own pleasure, to be changed or ignored, just as you choose to change or ignore them. They are your own little pets, to be played with, not to be feared.

  "The State" or "The Government" is idealized by the many as a thing above them, to be reverenced and feared. They call it "My Country," and if you utter the magic words, they will rush to kill their friends, whom they would not injure by so much as a pin scratch, if they were not intoxicated and blinded by their ideal. Most men are deprived of their reason under the influence of their ideals. Moved by the ideal of "religion" or "patriotism" or "morality," they fly at each others' throats - they, who are otherwise often the gentlest of men! But their ideals are for them like the "fixed ideas" of lunatics. They become irrational and irresponsible under the influence of their ideals. They will not only destroy others, but they will quite sink their own interests, and rush madly to destroy themselves as a sacrifice to the all-devouring ideal. Curious, is it not, to one who looks on with a philosophical mind?

  But the egoist has no ideals, for the knowledge that his ideals are only his ideals, frees him from their domination. He acts for his own interest, not for the interest of ideals. He will neither hang a man nor whip a child in the interest of "morality," if it is disagreeable to him to do so.

  He has no reverence for "The State." He knows that "The Government" is but a set of men, mostly as big fools as he is himself, many of them bigger. If the State does things that benefit him, he will support it; if it attacks him and encroaches on his liberty, he will evade it by any means in his power, if he is not strong enough to withstand it. He is a man without a country. "The Flag," that most men adore, as men always adore symbols, worshipping the symbol more than the principle it is supposed to set forth, is for the egoist but a rather inharmonious piece of patch-work; and anybody may walk on it or spit on it if they will, without exciting his emotion any more than if it were a tarpaulin that they walked upon or spat upon. The principles that it symbolizes, he will maintain as far as it seems to his advantage to maintain them; but if the principles require him to kill people or be killed himself, you will have to demonstrate to him just what benefit he will gain by killing or being killed, before you can persuade him to uphold them.

  When the judge enters court in his toggery, (judges and ministers and professors know the value of toggery in impressing the populace) the egoist is unterrified. He has not even any respect for "The Law." If the law happens to be to his advantage, he will avail himself of it; if it invades his liberty he will transgress it as far as he thinks it wise to do so. But he has no regard for it as a thing supernal. It is to him the clumsy creation of them who still "sit in darkness."

  Nor does he bow the knee to Morality - Sacred Morality! Some of its precepts he may accept, if he chooses to do so; but you cannot scare him off by telling him it is not "right." He usually prefers not to kill or steal; but if he must kill or steal to save himself, he will do it with a good heart, and without any qualms of "conscience." And "morality" will never persuade him to injure others when it is of no advantage to himself. He will not be found among a band of "white caps," flogging and burning poor devils, because their actions do not conform to the dictates of "morality," though they have injured none by such actions; nor will he have any hand in persecuting helpless girls, and throwing them out into the street, when he has received no ill at their hands.

  To his friends - to those who deserve the truth from him, - he will tell the truth; but you cannot force the truth from him because he is "afraid to tell a lie." He has no fear, not even of perjury, for he knows that oaths are but devices to enslave the mind by an appeal to supernatural fears.

  And for all the other small, tenuous ideals, with which we have fettered our minds and to which we have shrunk our petty lives; they are for the egoist as though they were not.

  "Filial love and respect" he will give to his parents if they have earned it by deserving it. If they have beaten him in infancy, and scorned him in childhood, and domineered over him in maturity, he may possibly love them in spite of maltreatment; but if they have alienated his affection, they will not reawaken it by an appeal to "duty."

  In brief, egoism in its modern interpretation, is the antithesis, not of altruism, but of idealism. The ordinary man - the idealist - subordinates his interests to the interests of his ideals, and usually suffers for it.

  The egoist is fooled by no ideals: he discards them or uses them, as may suit his own interest. If he likes to be altruistic, he will sacrifice himself for others; but only because he likes to do so; he demands no gratitude nor glory in return.

  Eye-opening.

  Epiphanic.
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  Jaded

  by eclipse in

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  http://www.drphil.com/articles/article/217 (italics mine).

  false accusations and gossip can destroy lives, even (especially) if the accused is innocent.

  if your reputation is under attack, dr. phil has advice on taking your power back.. .

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  eclipse

  http://www.drphil.com/articles/article/217 (italics mine)

  False accusations and gossip can destroy lives, even (especially) if the accused is innocent. If your reputation is under attack, Dr. Phil has advice on taking your power back.

• Accept that there is no way you can erase what has happened. Even though the accusations may be unfair and untrue, the situation is real. You need to get out of denial about that in order to deal with it in the here and now.
• Ask yourself what you would like to see happen in order to clear your name. Is there anything that anyone — the authorities, your co-workers or someone in the community — can do that could ever make the situation better?
• Understand that people might come forward to admit they were wrong. And they might not. It is up to you to put this behind you. Give yourself what you wish you could receive from others. You need to say to yourself, "I know I didn't do this. And I will give myself what I wish the community, the authorities, etc., would give me."
• Begin the process of closure by not reacting to what you think people are saying about you. If you allow yourself to be intimidated, feel guilty or shrink away because of what people think, you are putting yourselfin a prison.
  

• Don't try to address every accusation. "If you decide to start defending yourself, that will become your full-time job," Dr. Phil tells a guest. "If you answer every story, every piece of gossip, every allegation in your life, that's all you will ever do." You will be completely consumed by this and it will take over your life.
• Stop reacting to the rumors. "You give it legs by reacting to it," Dr. Phil tells his guest. Don't draw attention to yourself defending the rumor. "You need to give yourself permission to just live your life. If there are people out there who think something about you that you don't like, then those won't be your friends." There will be other people who will like and respect you for who you are, and they will be your friends.

• Stand up for yourself and say, "I'm taking my power back. I'm not going to give them the power to pick my feelings. They're wrong and I can look myself in the mirror knowing the truth." Dr. Phil tells a guest, "You have to decide that you believe in who you are, what you stand for, and what you do, and you just need to go forth and do it." You need to walk forward from the situation. "Who you are and what you do, that will win out in time."
• Know that it's normal to feel a twinge of guilt even if you're completely innocent. We always hear about guilt by association. But there is also guilt by accusation. People hear something negative and tend to believe it. If you accuse a person unfairly, he/she still has that twinge — just from having the finger pointed at him/her.
• Don't fall into the trap of acting out with non-directional frustration. The stress that comes with being wrongly accused can lead a person to act out with those closest to them, like a spouse or child. Remember that the enemy isn't your loved one; it's an outside force.

I was very angry and upset when I posted last.

I regret losing it, but I stand by what I said, I could of said it more calmly.

I am human and we all have our breaking points. This whole situation has opened my eyes to how cruel people can be.

I have explained myself. Life is strange. My mistake was sharing parts of mine here.

I did not scam anyone. I did not plan anything of any ill intent to take anything from this board.

I have only given to this board my compassion and my care.

You can read my posts and see what I am like. My silence on the board did not mean I felt guilty.

I don't feel guilty because I did nothing wrong. I know the truth.

My silence only was because I could not bear to read those attacks further.

People will believe what they want to, and some slander others for the fun of it.

So be it, have fun with that.

My life is my business and what I chose to share and not share with others, is up to me, not up to the board.

I am not an evil person. People who know me, know this.

I care about people. That is who I am. I have alot to give and if that is a flaw, so be it.

I am not ashamed to be a giving person.

When I was trying to tell people on the werewolf game that I was a villager, no one believed me.

I offered to be seen by the seer, and my aura to be revealed by the auralist, and still no one believed me.

I knew I was innocent, but they all thought that my continued defence of myself was proof that I was guilty.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It was finally proved by the auralist that I was not lying.

I wish I had a way to show you that I am not, but there is no crystal ball. There is no auralist to show you my innocence.

I only expect further attacks from the same group of people.

I have no unrealistic expectations that this post will change their abusive behavior.

I wish no ill towards them.

To the good hearted people here, I wish you all the best and much love.

You deserve it.

-eclipse