"I remember when they first started teaching Evolution in school. Our science teacher let everyone know up front that she didnt believe in it and the only reason she is teaching it is because she is required to. We all applauded her for her honesty."
Did it go something like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuLrS-qvAro
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The Pastafarians Strike Again -- Florida ID proponents back down!
by parakeet inthe flying spaghetti monster forced the polk county school board members to run for cover when they attempted to introduce intelligent design into the science curriculum.
here's the link (sorry, i can't create a direct link.
maybe another poster can help.
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Which church?
by faundy ini don't feel comfortable living as an atheist.
i believe the world is far to complex and humans are too incredible to have just occurred.
therefore, if i was to attend a church, which one should i consider?
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Personally, I wouldn't trade one pair of shackles for another. Keep in mind too that atheists don't think that human beings "just happened," either. Check out other religions, but study science and evolutionary theory, too. It doesn't hurt to at least know something about evolution before you reject it. There is very compelling evidence for it that isn't taught in high school biology because textbook makers like to avoid the controversy.
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Do you pray for others? Why? (One reason I rejected the Bible)
by AlmostAtheist inin addition to the noah's ark nonsense, this idea of praying for others was one that led me away from the bible.
here's how it plays out, in my opinion:.
bob has a problem.. jerry prays about that problem on behalf of bob.. god either:.
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I always saw praying for others as something you do to gain points with God to show him that you're thinking about others. Of course, if you are thinking about others, he doesn't need you to pray for them to know this.
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Circuit Assembly This Weekend
by united states of nothing inwell, i went this weekend and there were a few key points that i thought were pretty interesting.
one thing is that we are not to use the word 'society' any longer.
i don't know if anybody else has heard of this before but i wondered what the reason was behind it.
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Ahhh the over-excited overseer talk. I remember one time my C.O. decided he was going to be remembered at the next convention as a latter-day Rutherford, and ended his talk by shouting "ADVERTISE ADVERTISE ADVERTISE THE KING AND HIS KINGDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Reminded me of the Nuremburg rally.
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why is it better to "fade"?
by ruined ini've been reading various posts and i notice that fading is often advised by others who have done so or wish they had done so.
why is this better than being df'd?
i'm assuming it's because your family will not shun you if you are merely da'd ?
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Fading is never easy and I wouldn't recommend it unless you have no outside connections. I'm currently trying to fade and honestly, I'm finding it very difficult. I rarely go to meetings or assemblies because it's just too hard. I can't even remember the last time I was in field service. I can't sit through those meetings because they just make me angry. Their logic is so flawed and the talks are so manipulative, I just want to scream. I made the mistake of telling my parents how I feel, and now they're constantly barraging me with "I'm worried about you" and "don't abandon Jehovah!"
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Was There A Specific Event That U Remember-- Realizing It Wasn't The Truth?
by minimus infor me, it was a combination of things over a long period of time.
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how about you?
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I was sitting in the book study and we were covering the part of the Daniel Book that discusses all the different kings of the north and kings of the south. I couldn't figure out what basis they had for saying that there was more than one king of the north and king of the south. I thought the Bible was supposed to be easy to understand, and Daniel only mentions these kings in the singular. I realized that these explanations didn't come from the Bible and were not even logically sound.
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I've been in Michigan all my life
Lakeview (1982-1996)
Greenville West (1996-2000)
Greenville East (2000-2003)
Plymouth (2003-2004)
Traverse City West (2004-2005)
Howard City (2005-2006)
Grand Rapids Alpine (2006-2007)
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Another email I got. warning gag alert
by loosie ini guess they think that this illustration will make people pioneer.. .
some brothers wonder, why should i pioneer?
they reason, jehovah is merciful, and there will be many who are not pioneers that will make it into the paradise.. .
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If everyone pioneered, who would they mooch off of? If no one is working enough to afford to put money in the contribution boxes, then the congregations would go under!
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Why the "painting" argument of Intelligent Design doesn't prove anything
by B_Deserter ini was thinking about one of the favorite examples intelligent design proponents like to use: the painting.
often, the person will hold up a painting of a mona lisa, or point to some words written in the sand on a beach, or a 747 and point out that none of these things exist by chance.
the painting has a painter, someone wrote the words in the sand, and a whole crew of people engineered and built the 747.. .
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I was thinking about one of the favorite examples Intelligent Design proponents like to use: the painting. Often, the person will hold up a painting of a Mona Lisa, or point to some words written in the sand on a beach, or a 747 and point out that none of these things exist by chance. The painting has a painter, someone wrote the words in the sand, and a whole crew of people engineered and built the 747.
The main problem I see with this argument is that it always uses non-living matter. Paint is not alive, neither is sand, nor is an airplane. These things do not contain DNA, nor do they reproduce. That is the fatal flaw. You can point to how the bacterial flagellum looks like a rotary motor, but it's not a motor. It's not made of metal and it doesn't use gasoline. In fact, if a scale working model were somehow possible, the whip-like propeller wouldn't be able to move the vessel at any great efficiency. You simply cannot compare living systems that reproduce with non-living systems that do not. The whole premise of evolution is that genes are not perfectly passed down to offspring, and that sometimes these mutations are beneficial, sometimes they are not. That's it. Evolution is a theory of life, not of inanimate objects. -
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How do cults form... what are the building blocks for a cult?
by AK - Jeff ina friend of mine and i are in discussion on how a cult develops.
how is the foundation laid for such?
do the founders know they are setting up something that is intent on controlling others?
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Unhappiness with life is the main root cause. The main thing that every cult promises is a "new world," a utopia inhabited by only members of the group. The extremist muslims have their 72 virgins. The People's Temple was trying to build the ideal society in the jungles of South America. Heaven's Gate were looking forward to a ride on a spaceship manned by Jesus. Jehovah's Witnesses promise a "new system" inhabited by only Jehovah's Witnesses and the resurrected who convert.
But the promise of a new life by itself doesn't make a cult. That would apply to every religion. What sets cults apart is that they demand specific tasks be done in order to receive this reward. These tasks aren't minor like communion or prayer, they're lifestyle-changing acts. The People's Temple relocated their entire congregation to another continent, then demanded mass suicide. Some Heaven's Gate members went through ritual castration. The Church of Reverend Moon and Jehovah's Witnesses demand all members to prosyletize and bring new converts into the church. That in fact is another earmark of a mind-control cult, an intense preoccupation with bringing in new members.