I remember a pioneer sister back in the '70's who learned Hebrew for the same reason Smack stated.
Taming fish?????? ROFLOL!!!!
ok, we all know how all private ideas are quashed in the borg.
but, all that lobotimizing does have its effects that come out sometimes.
we were studying the paradise book i think and the elder said he couldn't understand how people thought they'd get bored living forever.
I remember a pioneer sister back in the '70's who learned Hebrew for the same reason Smack stated.
Taming fish?????? ROFLOL!!!!
i recieved an e mail from some nutcase banging on about islam and religion in general.
he quoted from some nut who once said :
we are only a handful of writers and.
Shamus:
Under certain circumstances, hate is stronger than love. If someone were to murder your son, you would hate that person, no matter what. There is no such thing as loving your enemies... give me a break. How the hell can you love someone like that?
Except that I've seen people who claim to be Christian, who are sometimes on news magazine interviews on TV, forgive a person who is serving a prison sentence for killing, raping, or whatever crime to a loved one/family member they have/had. I suppose it's love that is causing them to forgive. So in that case, love would be stronger.
Not that I could ever forgive someone for harming one of my family
a couple of years ago i was part of an on-line writers group.
a few of us got together and wrote an anthology of xmas stories called tales of christmas.. i wrote a story about my first xmas after leaving the dubs.
the book is being published.
That's wonderful, LadyLee!! Congrats!
how do you define someone as anti-american?
if you strongly disapprove of, say, america's foreign policies, yet basically have an affection for american people, does this still make you an anti-american?
is it possible that people are being accused of being anti-american inaccurately?
One reason why Americans think their country is better than anybody else's is because they have been indoctrinated to believe "God shed his Grace on thee" as in the song,
"America"
Oh beautiful for spacious skies
For amber waves of grain
For purple mountains majesty,
Above the fruited plain.
America, America,
God shed his grace on thee,
And crowned thy good
With brotherhood
From sea to shining sea.
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i joined jwd october 2, 2002. i started posting in jan 31, 2003. i was scared off from october til jan. dealing with abuse and overwhelm with hearing from so many who have been abused and continues.. there has been definite healing over the year.
so thank you all.. old crow
Congratulations, oldcrowwoman!
Two:
It does sound cultish. The Society says this; The Society says that. For a short period I atteneded meetings again in 1999 after not attending for 10 years, I noticed this phrase was never used from the platform and by current members. It has been replaced by the Slave, shortened from the faithful and discret slave. Any one else notice this word phased out in this way?
Yep, sure do.....and I hate that they say the Slave. What if someone walked off the street and came into the KH and heard the brother on the platform say something about the "Slave", I wonder what that person would be thinking...
hello fellow screen junkies,.
i have had a number of messages in recent days concerned about my posting style having changes in recent weeks.
as you may note i have become a little more combative in my replies of late and have imbued a new sense of tenacity when dealing with certain issues.
You say that chanting in unison and wearing the correct tribal colthes is no subsitute for reasoned argument, and I agree. However, feeling like you belong is a normal part of our makeup. Seeing as we've all spent most of our lives being seperate from the world, and the rest of it not quite fitting in, this forum has been a great way of "wearing tribal clothes".
HS:
My point is that wearing a uniform of any sort can and does lead to prejudicial viewpoints, especially when discussing matters outside the uniform of your own particular peer group. Prejudice is never a safe option.
What one must be careful of is "herd" thinking whether in the WTS or out of it. As a person just coming back to this board, objectively speaking, I see some herd thinking here in certain categories.
Simon, I agree with you.
*** g74 11/8 ***9 is this the time to have children?
there has always been a positive attitude about childbearing.
families with many children have been praised and honored.
JT:
.....or they are in the field shooting for the Traveling Work, so they have not had any kids waiting to get that letter from the service desk-
a number of them have been on the SUB_CO list for years just waiting to get a permanent asssigment so they will refuse to have kids, buy a house, decent car, or get into any debt that REG FOLKS GET INTO because one is required to be able to close all thier debt in 30days-
Soooo there's a waiting list. Some years ago I heard that the society was getting worried because not many were interested in the circuit work and the current CO's were getting old and nobody to replace them.... I guess it's not as bad as I heard.
*** g74 11/8 ***9 is this the time to have children?
there has always been a positive attitude about childbearing.
families with many children have been praised and honored.
I'm sorry James...I remember those articles...and there was a sister in the cong. I was in at the time who was very, very, upset that she became pregnant in 1974 because the baby would be born in 1975. I wonder now if she is still a witness..and now her baby is all grown up.
I had my first child in 1978 and the second one in 1985 (at 37). The first one brought my dad out of a depression he was in (non-jw). He was depressed because he felt he made a mistake in selling his home and moving back to the city of his birth. My second child came when my dad was ill and couldn't enjoy him as much. James, I just want to say that it's not too late for you and Lady "C". 40 years of age in this time, is still very young.
today i helped bury a friend, and in a few minutes i'll be leaving to attend the wake of another, who died yesterday.. i have less than a handful of friends from pre-exjw days (nothing new there - we're all in a similar boat, i'm sure), so my more recently acquired friends are precious to me.. for those that i count as friends (which obviously includes a number on this board), please let it be known that you are precious to me.. i've helped bury about six, during this last year (i hope that doesn't put anyone off from befriending me).
every one has been like a hammerblow .
regardless of beliefs, or lack thereof, death is still an enemy to the living and the dead (imho).. with that sombre note, i must away....
I lost my mom in June of this year. My dad died in 1988 so I am an orphan, now. When I went to visit my hometown in August, I was shocked to find many of my school mates who had died. Some went on to live hard, brief lives and that is sooo sad. Hugz to you {{{{{{{{LittleToe}}}}}}}