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  Firpo Carr Denies Michael Jackson Slept With Children

  by Kenneson in

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  firpo carr claims that michael jackson never slept with children.

  they may have slept in his bed, but he slept on the floor.. see "jackson adviser: 'great emotional toll on family' " at.

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  Flowerpetal

  This is to everyone:

  Let's be fair here---there are only allegations at this point about Michael Jackson. And believe me, I am not a fan of his, although I think his Thriller album was the best he ever made.

  Getting back to the point, though, everyone in this country has a right to a fair trial. That means, everyone gets an attorney that is his champion. What would you do if you were his lawyer? Suspect him? Even if you did, you still would defend him, wouldn't you? Could you put your bias aside, and defend him properly? Everyone accused, needs to have a lawyer in his/her corner.

  The prosecution has to prove it's case--and I hate when high profile cases are tried in the press. Even the woman I can't stand the most, Gloria Allred, jumped on the bandwagon some time ago, calling for the removal of Michael's children from the home. And she was just saying that without any facts. That's what a trial is for, to bring out facts.... and prosecution has the burden of proof. So let the prosecution present its case...and that brings us to the jury...let the jury decide.....
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  How Can We Help JWs That Come On This Board To "Discuss"?

  by minimus in

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  ...........especially if someone comes here to tell us why we're wrong in our thinking??

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  Min>>If you stick to the context of Scripture, it might be easy to "prove" that a JW is wrong, imo. Flowerpetal>>Exactly!!!!
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  JW Family Birthdays

  by dh in

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  i just got an email from my mom (who's a jw) telling me that my grandma (who's roman catholic) turned 77 yesterday, she said i should call because my grandma would be happy to hear from me.

  this might seem normal in a non-jw household, but it's the first time it's ever happened in ours, what struck me is that being raised a jw i'd never been told when my relatives birthday's were and conditioned not to ask.. it's been years since i left and i've never given it a second tought, but suddenly i feel pretty small for not knowing... my grandma, being catholic was the only one in my family who even acknowleded our birthdays, at one point when we were kids we weren't allowed to see our grandparents at all because they weren't jw's, it's insane.. to this day i still don't know when my mom and dad's birthdays are, i am not even 100% sure what years they were born in.. is this normal?.

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  Even though my mom was a JW since 1941 and her siblings weren't, (they are Catholic) she would always call them the day before their birthdays and at least acknowledged that they were a year older--and she would always have a nice conversation with them.
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  How Can We Help JWs That Come On This Board To "Discuss"?

  by minimus in

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  ...........especially if someone comes here to tell us why we're wrong in our thinking??

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  If someone comes here with that attitude then their determination, IMHO, is to try and "correct" the thinking of members of this board. If one could reason with a JW with that attitude, you may get him/her to start thinking--but you must insist, in a kind matter so they don't think you are criticizing the society/gov. body, that they answer your question/subject. And I think it would be best if you keep it to questions that you can find a Bible reference to and help them to reason on that.
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  Weekend Circuit Assembly Report

  by Mulan in

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  my jw girlfriend was here for coffee this morning, and gave me the assembly report.

  her husband told her not to tell me one thing because it would give me "ammunition", but of course she told me.

  there were no baptismal candidates.

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  Hi Mulan,

  This past weekend was the Special Assembly Day in Tampa. out of 1200 in attendance, 10 were baptized and I got the inference that some of that number had parents in the "truth." But how you can equate expensive weddings and anniversary celebrations to that is beyond me. There is no financial cost to getting baptized--just a bathing suit and a towel.....go figure.
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  Who is Ted Jaracz and why is he so disliked?

  by imallgrowedup in

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  just wondering who this guy is - can anyone help?!

  growedup.

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  sf -

  Thank you for pointing out to me that I worded the question for this thread incorrectly. I should have asked, "How did Ted get to the position he did, and what are your opinions of him?". I appreciate your support for the research work I do. If you ever have a problem with anything I post in the future, please be sure to pm me and I will be happy to address your concerns privately. As we both are working towards the same goals in our research, I know how much you would appreciate me voicing any surprise at anything you may post in a private forum, so I promise to return the favor should I have any questions on your posts.

  Yours Truly,

  growedup

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  LOL!!! You GO girl!!!!
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  Do You Consider The Ones You Left Behind In The Organization as Bro/Sis?

  by AwakenedAndFree in

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  do you consider the ones you left behind in the organization as brothers and sisters?.

  the ones who don't shun me are my brothers and sisters!

  i have a friend/sister who is still in the organization.

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  Something is wrong when your friends from the KH are fair-weather friends--yet these same ones are admonished time and again not to be "fair-weather" Christians as in going in service in all types of weather.

  Just my 2 Cents.....
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  runnnnn rosie runnnnnn for your life

  by primitivegenius in

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  poor girl............. did she get caught 2

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  I got that pic thru e-mail the other day...that's pretty funny, Rosie holding a WT magazine.
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  Witnesses and laziness

  by Enishi in

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  is it just me, or does the dub lifestyle encourage astounding degrees of laziness?

  we're expected to sit quietly at the meetings and be spoon feed repititious information without thinking for ourselves.

  dubs are discouraged from making any decisions without the counsel or approval of the society.

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  Oh excuse me, we are not supposed to meditate on the words of the Bible--we are not supposed to come to any conclusions on our own because we may come up with apostate ideas. Where is my mind???
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  Witnesses and laziness

  by Enishi in

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  is it just me, or does the dub lifestyle encourage astounding degrees of laziness?

  we're expected to sit quietly at the meetings and be spoon feed repititious information without thinking for ourselves.

  dubs are discouraged from making any decisions without the counsel or approval of the society.

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  Flowerpetal

  So laziness has to be reserved for kind of mental laziness.

  I would say it's a mental laziness....witnesses are even told what to meditate on.

  e.g. a portion of scripture can tell you what kind of person Jehovah is

  consider how the Biblical account you are reading contributes to the Bible's theme: the vindication of Jehovah's sovereignty and the santification of his name by the Kingdom under Jesus Christ, the promised seed (this thing about Jesus is NEW) Before this it was always the kingdom and it would stop there.

  how can you mkae personal application of what you are reading and

  give thought to how you might use what you are reading to help others

  There is never any encouragement to just meditate on the chapters you've read just to understand the meaning of what is being said.