Posts by Flowerpetal

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The end is so near because.....

by OnTheWayOut in

the governing body allows the running rumor to gather speed, and pushes it along.

that "armageddon is so close, we really mean it this time.

what is their advantage in doing so?.

Flowerpetal

An elder told me last year the end was real soon because they were studying the Revelation book again.

(sigh)

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Bill Cetnar's Jesus = Jehovah Chart

by AlphaOmega in

credits to mouthy and a very long string of coincidences for this .

sirona started a thread a while ago which stated that the bible says that jesus is god.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/135662/1.ashx.

Flowerpetal

Sorry, but I have to agree with Terry
Never be sorry about what you believe ...This site is freedom to be what you want to be....
It is the Unconditionl love store...We all agree to disagree (HUG)

Awww---thanks Mouthy. Hugs to you too! Now how do I get this highlight to stop?

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Bill Cetnar's Jesus = Jehovah Chart

by AlphaOmega in

credits to mouthy and a very long string of coincidences for this .

sirona started a thread a while ago which stated that the bible says that jesus is god.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/135662/1.ashx.

I am sick and tired of charts, and other ways to try to explain the Divine. I have heard them explained as ice cream, but different flavors, 3x3x3=1, and all kinds of other silly stuff. There is no possible way little, puny mankind can explain what is heavenly, or divine. They can only use metaphors or explanations which are limited by human language. Sorry, but I have to agree with Terry.

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for any of you that have read my threads(im a struggling one)

by MUNKAFATS in

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they way im seeing it is that jw seem to teach only honesty which i dont see as being a bad thing at all so why are some of you on here using **** this and **** that or im going to do some fornication now blah blah blah , i dont mean to be offensive at all but some of you say you are christian????

or is it that you have been repressed for to long ?

help me as i feel stuck in the middle , dont know what to do

Flowerpetal

Of course, there are many good-hearted people who are in the JWs, who DO care about the value of honesty and truth. The cognitive dissonance (or as Ray Franz put it as the title of his book, "Crisis of Conscience") eventually brings them to leave. Some of them post here now. Your friend may become such a person, too, you never know!

Thanks Bebu for saying that. As one who was raised in this belief, I saw many good-hearted people, as well as those who were hypocrites. I left (faded) for several reasons, one of which was the org's continual bashing of "Christendom" equating it with "renegade Jerusalem." while elevating itself--as if to say "we are sooo glad we aren't like them; we are much better that any religion on earth, blah, blah, blah." Plus (and it took me a while to see this) that the Borg puts itself between us and Jesus, who is the mediator for ALL.

Welcome Munk..hope you will get answers here. Were you thinking at one time of becoming a JW?

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It's June 13th all over the world...no armageddon

by dawg in

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friends

damn it, i thought yesterday was the end.... i'll have to put up with you apostates a little while longer.

Flowerpetal

Here is another Yahweh group:

http://www.yahwehbenyahweh.com/

Click on the Break News part

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Did you ever 'Turn Someone In' to the elders? Do you regret it now?

by AK - Jeff in

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i am not proud of that, for i know the pain i caused someone as i look back.. i turned in 4 people for 'gross sins' over my tenure as a jw.

i wish i could take it back now.

were these people guilty of 'sin' as defined by the wts?

Flowerpetal

I never turned anyone in, but I did ask an elder to help a sister who called me one day, crying her eyes out because she was depressed, and her husband didn't seem to care about her, etc., etc., etc. She called me because I was at that time, a MS's wife. So I approached this elder who was sent to our cong. and he seemed like someone who was good at counseling people....and as time went by, they ended up having an affair, both got Df'd. and were divorced. So in their DF'd state, they got married, time went by, and they were reinstated and about 21/2 years after their marriage, they got divorced.

She is still single and I don't know where he is--he left the cong.

What a waste of everything.......

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Did you use to believe that all the annoited ones contributed information

by troubled mind in

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when i was little there were several elderly ones in our hall that were of the annointed class .

i was lead to believe that they sent in surveys of a sort to the society regularly.

about their opinoins on theocratic matters .i was told that they ,all the annointed, contributed material to the magazines .

Flowerpetal

I did growing up and it wasn't until I was way into my late 20's that I found out it wasn't true. Very disappointed I was, because I wondered what the point was of being of the anointed if you couldn't educate the other sheep with your wisdom.

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Did Being One Of Jehovahs Witnesses Kill Your Drive?

by The wanderer in

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did being one of jehovahs witnesses kill your drive?

it is understandable how someone who has been a jehovahs witness .

for a number of years could become complacent and except their lot in life.

Flowerpetal

Not kill my drive but maybe suppressed it somewhat until an elder's wife (many years ago) told me about someone she knew who was depressed a lot, and she went to a doctor (don't know if it was an MD or Psych) but she was told she needed to do something creative--so she started painting and her depression went away. So I started wondering if that was why I would get depressed sometimes---because I needed to do something creative--which I did and I felt much better. Also I have found a vocation which I love--just sorry I didn't discover it earlier in life.

This is part of self-discovery...to realize that we are here to contribute something that matters to humanity/the world to make it better. It could be in the arts, (including medical arts), or whatever it is that makes us happy. Certainly being told "NO!" at the doors all the time could make one feel horrible--and I'm sure our Creator didn't intend that.

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Scriptual help needed - The parable of the prodigal son ?

by Mr Hyde in

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right i need the help of someone who knows their bible.

ive been out of the truth too long and have forgotten the info im looking for.. .

i once did a school assignment on what was basically the parable of the prodigal son, only it wasnt that.

Flowerpetal

Luke 15:11-32

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Apocryphal Books

by Black Man in

i've been starting to read the apocryphal books (just for the heck of it and pure academia), you know, those books that were deemed unsuitable to be considered as part of the bible canon by the religous bureaucrats back in 317 c.e.

at the council of nicea (constantinople).

i think the bible and the apocryphal books are probably a bunch of crap, but can someone school me on them?

Flowerpetal

This site might help:

http://www.earth-history.com/Apochrypha/index.htm