This is a good statement to start laying doubts on our family, friends still trapped in the organization. This clearly shows how much of the JW organization is all about man-made rules and high expectations that most JWs cannot meet.
icyestrm
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"Organization will hinder all growth...."
by bob1999 inso who said this?
"for when the power of organization is once felt, it will soon be used to frown down and hinder all growth in grace and knowledge, and to suppress all teaching and teachers not in harmony with the errors and bondage of said unions.
the only union and bondage which god has ever authorized in his children, is the union between each individual and christ the head....."
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NEW policy! NO LIT for EX-JWs!
by MinisterAmos init's official; they read the letter tonight that puts forth the new procedure.
if you find an expelled person in the field or are studying with one, you are no longer permitted to give them lit.
presumably the elders make a decision if an expelled one is regularly attending meetings, but only they can give them lit.
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icyestrm
Actually this procedure has been going on for a while. The elder goes to the magazine counter and informs the MS that so-and-so is DFed. Sometimes the MS gives it to the DF person or an elder. Not many people know of this, even elders not on the SC are not aware of this procedure.
The letter is a PR move by the GB to put a small band-aid on a large wound that will blow soon. I doubt that elders will personally bring magazines to DF ones because many view them as dogs. One PO I knew made the comment that, 'If someone has been DFed, I don't care about him or her anymore'
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Lurkers! How do you put up with it?
by PopeOfEruke ini just cannot understand how any one in their right mind can read the experiences here concerning the wachtower society's false claims, lies, trickery and deceit, and the example shown by the so-called "elders" in treating the flock with disdain and cruelty, and still stay a jehovah's witness.. lurkers, how can you do that?
do you simply dismiss all the evidence?
have any of you experienced such evil acts personally and still stay connected to the jw's?.
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Its a progressive destructive organization that controls what goes into the typical JW's head. Any attack on them from this site and similar ones is seen in their eyes as persecution. It strengthens their faith and they fall deeper in the hands of the organization. The members who have experience leaving the organization are the ones who are best to assist others who like myself are fading.
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Racism within the borg
by icyestrm inacts 10:34 speaks of god as not being partial.
in the majority of pictures, the married couples are only of the same race and none of them are mixed.
i noticed that in other pictures of the so-called paradise, its segerated amongst races too.
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This is from personal experience: I felt that the favored skin color got their prvileges faster in the congregation I was compared to someone that was a black or minority. The elders, surprisingly are white and trusted white brothers more with parts and those that weren't white often were treated badly. By this happening, it raised more doubts about this organization.
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Does God REALLY exist? (An Attempt at an Online Bible Study)
by theMartian inwith the global village now teaching evolution as an absolute fact, and the 'creation museum' making a mockery of the bible, any bible study should begin with this question!
however, the biggest hinderence to learning truth is clinging to concepts we've accepted as 'truth' without being willing to take a closer look at other possibilities.. i ask that ridiculers have fun on other postings, so that it might be possible to enjoy comparing what we have learned, how we see things- and also share what we have found to be facts-truth!.
(and i will not "count the time", as promised; that's unimportant to me, anyhow!).
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icyestrm
For all the Canadians here, remember the MacLean's cover 'Is God Poison?' a few months back? Here is the article online: http://www.macleans.ca/homepage/magazine/article.jsp?content=20070416_104182_104182
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What kind of changes would you make if you were the President of the WTS.
by Brain Dead ini'm just curious, if you could imagine taking control over the jws.
as an acting president, what specific changes would you make to .
the organization to make it more approachable, livable and attainable for the general population ?.
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Launch a formal investigation of the GB, freeze their bank accounts and throw them in jail to rot for 200 years. Going to heaven, hell no! They rot in the ground for all the injustice they done to us and those still trapped in the borg. Tell the drones that field service is no longer a priority and that meetings will be reduced to 1 hour each Sunday afternoon. That will not interfere with children's school schedules and adults who work long days on the weekdays.
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July KM - warning against active apostates - summary
by dozy inthe question box in july deals with the internet - mainly concerned with children on myspace & similar sites -mentioning that your child could be talking to paedophiles , dfd ones or even "active apostates" .
the main article deals with the - "exciting" and "thrilling" news of the new wt arrangement (maybe some people should get out more).
nothing new in the article , which has as the sole justification the need no longer to explain "theocratic" terms like "pioneer" , but it does seem that the awake will be tailored more to non-christian people.
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This shows how scared out of their minds the GB are of us. If they have
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When do you think JWs will reach the 7,000,000 mark?
by R.F. inwe all know that once this happens it will ring a loud cry from the wts to how it is "growing".
when do you think this will happen?
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7 million in a progressively destructive organization? I wonder how many are suffering psychological and emotional abuse why trying to serve
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July KM - warning against active apostates - summary
by dozy inthe question box in july deals with the internet - mainly concerned with children on myspace & similar sites -mentioning that your child could be talking to paedophiles , dfd ones or even "active apostates" .
the main article deals with the - "exciting" and "thrilling" news of the new wt arrangement (maybe some people should get out more).
nothing new in the article , which has as the sole justification the need no longer to explain "theocratic" terms like "pioneer" , but it does seem that the awake will be tailored more to non-christian people.
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GB: Control, control, control. Hypocrites!!! They publish in their literature that everybody has free will and not robots yet the GB wants to control JWs as robots
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Kansas City DC summary
by stillajwexelder inok just got back from the dc in kansas city.
i know there has been a thread on the dc already but i will post "highlights" or lowlights depending on one's opinion, of the dc in kc on this thread.. 1) bethel speakers so far 1 from patterson bethel, 1 from brooklyn bethel and 1 from walkill bethel + governing body speaker anthony morris 111. friday major talk on christ on last talk by morris.
illustarted earthquake in armenia few yaers ago.
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icyestrm
I heard of that letter too and personally feel that its a joke. The reasoning behind this is the concession vendors will complain to the facility staff to let them open their stands during the program. Hey, wouldn't that be cool? Standing in line, waiting to get a burger and a cup of beer while some GB stiff such as Morris is talking. Just keep brining in food from outside with the original packaging and the arena will basically kick out the JWs from there next year. Thats what happened in Vancouver a few years back.