Posts by Pallbearer

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Noting discrepancies in Watchtower publications.

by Pallbearer in

here is a link that shows two pages out of the may 1, 1999 watchtower, pages 17 and 18.. http://www.geocities.com/thewatchtowerstudy/wt050199p17-18.htm.

in looking at what is supposed to be the same wild beast, do you see a difference between the one shown on page 17 in comparison to the one shown on the following page?.

the difference i see is that the heads of the beast in the first image are all lion's heads, whereas the heads in the second image are all leopard's heads (notice the spots).. be reminded that these images are in the same magazine.. something like this might seem to be of little significance to many people.

Pallbearer

Here is a link that shows two pages out of the May 1, 1999 Watchtower, pages 17 and 18.

http://www.geocities.com/thewatchtowerstudy/wt050199p17-18.htm

In looking at what is supposed to be the same wild beast, do you see a difference between the one shown on page 17 in comparison to the one shown on the following page?

The difference I see is that the heads of the beast in the first image are all lion's heads, whereas the heads in the second image are all leopard's heads (notice the spots).

Be reminded that these images are in the same magazine.

Something like this might seem to be of little significance to many people. But me being a person that is interested in accurately understanding the Bible's symbols in every detail, this caught my eye.

Whoever was responsible for putting these two pages together in order to have them published in the Watchtower obviously failed to notice the discrepency.

Did you ever notice this discrepancy before?

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March and April issues of the Watchtower

by Pallbearer in

does anyone know if the march 15 and april 15, 2009 watchtowers (study editions) are online for downloading?.

thanks.

Pallbearer

Thanks just the same, but I'm interested in scanned copies only. And besides the audio versions aren't the Study Editions, are they?

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March and April issues of the Watchtower

by Pallbearer in

does anyone know if the march 15 and april 15, 2009 watchtowers (study editions) are online for downloading?.

thanks.

Pallbearer

Does anyone know if the March 15 and April 15, 2009 Watchtowers (Study Editions) are online for downloading?

Thanks

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A Jehovah Witness serves as Civil Servant in Government Institution What has changed in WT Policy?

by Nick! in

a jehovah witness serves as civil servant in government institution what has changed in wt policy?.

according to the new liberian (see link http://newliberian.com/?p=558#more-558 )an alleged jehovah witness, mr. andrew togba davies, a consummate professional, (who) indeed devoted his entire adult life to public service, working in various capacities as a christian minister, lawyer, educator, diplomat, and national security professional, passed away on january 3, 2009, in monrovia, liberia.

he was 71.. the article specifies that he was a devout christian who, on december 19, 1969, after an ardent course of bible study, dedicated his life to jehovah and served faithfully as one of jehovahs witnesses until his death.. the article continues by saying in 1982, he began his diplomatic service as the liberian special maritime representative to the united states.

Pallbearer

It's not unusual for JWs to be employed by the government . For example, mailmen are government employees also.

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What do you think of the Wise Men NOW!

by wobble in

i have just been watching the carols and readings from kings college cambridge,england, bloody marvellous!.

a couple of times they have referred to the visit of the wise men, i wonder what you guys make of this,it always seemed to me a strange thing to be in scripture,the visit of some devout presumably zoroastrian seers.

the wt take on this is that "satan used them to try to bring about the death of jesus".

Pallbearer

I'm going with it was some sort of apparition created by satan .It wasn't a stationary star ,it moved in front of them ,going to herod first in an effort to kill the youngster jesus ,it did all happen to fullfill the old testament prophesy that there would be a great wailing in Israel and that Jesus would have to be called out of egypt where they went to hide . One would have to ask if herod was stupid for trusting the astrologers to return but I couldn't see God being responsible for the death of all the babies .

That's the way I see it too. So, it seems, that this "apparition" (called a "star") was an object that Satan himself caused to appear in the sky. Any thoughts on that?

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Is going to the worldly funeral conscience mattter? (According to the WT)

by asilentone in

Pallbearer

That thing about churches is one thing I had an issue with.. I once as an active JW was sent to a panic
situation where India ink had been spilled on a carpet (I was a professional carpet cleaner) ( this is a time sensitive
situation with India ink) . Anyway I was seen working in a church by someone .... the whole issue of church
contract work came up.. I told them looking this was a one time emergency situation.. I didn't even know it
was a church til I got there... too late to back out ! This whole thing about conscience of others came up.
I reached a boiling point, pointing out that just a while ago an elder attend a church service (funeral )
because a relative with money wrote in his will that to obtain willed money he must be present at the service !
I told them I call that a bribe.. if you only attend to obtain the money ! I was only in church doing my job
they told me the elder was not there to worship.. either was I... I said.. the whole situation makes me think
of a word that starts with H.... and it's not the word honor !
Caliber

Reading your post reminded me of how my mother-in-law's Will was worded. It stated that her daughter (my wife) was to see to it that the grandchildren were to receive essentially everything (which was mainly in the form of stocks). It poignantly stated that the only thing that her daughter was to receive was the residue of a $5,000.00 checking account after $1,000.00 gift to the American Legion Building Fund was made, and that her daughter was to write out the check. It stated that if her daughter failed to carry out the instructions in the Will that my wife was to receive absolutely nothing. What a bitch I had for a "mother-in-law"!

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Black Widow Spider bites beware!

by Thechickennest in

jw
friends

this year in our part of the county all spiders and black widows seem to more visable this year than in previous years.

this brings me to the subject i would like to share with all in with idea that someone might saved some agony.. last thursday night just before i was going bed, a large black spider fell out of my pajama shorts to the floor landing in between my feet.i tried to step back but the spider spun a web between my feet and when i moved the spider moved!

i finally got a good look at the spider before i wrapped her in tp and flushed her down the toilet.

Pallbearer

Just more proof of Jehover's wonderously designed creation. He truly is a loving god to have designed such a creature.

It's reasonable to assume that there were no poisonous spiders or mosquitoes inside the boundaries of the Garden of Eden, even as there wasn't any weeds. Outside the Garden of Eden had not been cultivated, and was where the thorns and thistles grew. -- Genesis 3:18.

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Holding hands during prayer.

by greenhornet in

i remember with some jw family's during prayer every one would hold hands around the table.

i think it is like a cult or some pagan practice.

now that i am out of the box looking in, i find this practice weird.

Pallbearer

The person who studied with me was one that practiced holding hands at the dinner table during a prayer prior to eating the meal.

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Critiquing an article out of the June 2006 Awake!

by Pallbearer in

url for article:http://www.watchtower.org/e/200606b/article_01.htm.

the short article noted above appeared in the june 2006 issue of awake!

although i think the author did a good job in general i totally disagree with the following three things that were said:(a) by asserting their independence, adam and eve irreparably damaged their relationship with jehovah (b) and inflicted sinas imprint upon their organism, right to its genetic foundations.

Pallbearer

URL for article:http://www.watchtower.org/e/200606b/article_01.htm

The short article noted above appeared in the June 2006 issue of Awake! Although I think the author did a good job in general I totally disagree with the following three things that were said:

(a) By asserting their independence, Adam and Eve irreparably damaged their relationship with Jehovah (b) and inflicted sin’s imprint upon their organism, right to its genetic foundations. (c) Jehovah purposed to make it possible for the offspring of Adam and Eve to be freed from sin’s deadly grip.

With regards to the "a" part: We notice the author argues that there is no hope left for Adam and Eve. So the official position of the Watchtower Society is that Adam and Eve will NOT receive a resurrection. However, there is nothing in the Biblical account that suggests Adam and Eve were irreconcilable. With regards to the "b" part: The author claims that the tendency to sin was passed down to everyone by means of genetics. Actually, our genes have nothing to do with the shortcomings that we commit. The quality of parental guidance and education has everything to do with it. With regards to the "c" part: Once again it is implied that Adam and Eve will not receive another chance at life. There is nothing to suggest that Adam and Eve merited being thrown into the "lake of fire" along with Satan. (Revelation 20:10) The lake of fire is a symbol for eternal destruction, where only irreconcilable people are sent. Do you agree or disagree with me?

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What I Learned from Bro Lett's DC Talk

by Rohag in

what i learned/derived from steven lett's dc talk (thanks again, ynot, for providing access to the .mp3 files!).

brother lett - or the committee that produced the talk - really loves food metaphors.well-dressed people, especially children, produce a good witness.if you're an apostate, chances are bad conduct/secret sin/moral depravity made you that way.

apostasy is usually founded on sin and rarely on conviction.the bible is an insufficient - or overly cumbersome - guide to godly conduct.

Pallbearer

No other religious organization is bearing a world-wide witness to the Kingdom established in the heavens in 1914.

What a sad statement for anyone to make! I went to meetings for almost 10 years before I realized that the 1914 doctrine was a misconception.