Your elders are actually doing what they are told! Amazing!!!
changeling
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Been Df'ed for 9 years and Elders showed up @ my door Sat. Morning
by jrjr4189 incomplete shock came over me this past saturday when an elder and young bap.
guy showed up at my door to see me.. i had attended some meetings for a few weeks back in early 2006 as an appeasment for my mother and had spoken with an elder because he asked what my intentions were.
i of course told them that i wanted to come back.
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Liberal Arts
by changeling ini always thought that having a liberal atrs degree meant something "artsy fartsy".
nothing wrong with that, i love artsy fartsy.
however, i was mistaken.. i recently learned that having a liberal arts education comes from medival times.
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changeling
Hi jschwhem: IMO the Society knows what it's doing. Keeping their people in a servile state is like keeping a wife "barefoot and pregnant". They figure "what they don't know can't hurt them". But it does.
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Liberal Arts
by changeling ini always thought that having a liberal atrs degree meant something "artsy fartsy".
nothing wrong with that, i love artsy fartsy.
however, i was mistaken.. i recently learned that having a liberal arts education comes from medival times.
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changeling
I always thought that having a liberal atrs degree meant something "artsy fartsy". Nothing wrong with that, I love artsy fartsy. However, I was mistaken.
I recently learned that having a liberal arts education comes from medival times. The term "liberal" meaning free or of free people. People whose walk in life allowed them to think, reason, come to conclusions, reason... The opposite was "servile" or in servitude, as in those who learned a trade, and were in servitude to a master.
In this period in history you were basically born into a station in life and had no way of progressing or "bettering" yourself.
While I'm certainly not putting anyone down who has a trade, I am making the point that the WT would have their own belive this is the only choice, thus compounding thier "servile" state. Discouraging and vilifying "higher learning", in effect says: "Stay in servitude, both to society and to us. Don't improve your thinking skills , count on us to think for you. Don't expand your horizons, 'keep your eyes on the prize'."
So, to all of us who have "seen the light", let's keep learning, let's keep changing, let's keep growing. Let's embrace life and our own humanity. Let's be "liberal" as in free and rejoice in that freedoom, and may we never find ourselves in servitude again!
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Did you ever 'Turn Someone In' to the elders? Do you regret it now?
by AK - Jeff ini am not proud of that, for i know the pain i caused someone as i look back.. i turned in 4 people for 'gross sins' over my tenure as a jw.
i wish i could take it back now.
were these people guilty of 'sin' as defined by the wts?
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changeling
Yes and I do.
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I finally understand...
by sinis inthat if we were immortal we would not have religion.
religion is a vehicle that tries to explain the unexplainable within our limited mortal lives.
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changeling
I agree.
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Well this totally sucks...
by bluesbreaker59 inmy girlfriend that i brag to everyone about, and treat like a queen, is leaving me.
i actually got df'd over her, and have been with her for over 5 months.
we were so close, i just totally never, ever saw this coming.
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changeling
Yes, it really does suck! A text breakup? That should tell you something.
I't will hurt for awhile, but you will survive, and you will love and be loved again, of this I can assure you.
As for your grandpa, I'm very sorry. Send him a card and tell him how you feel. Whether he reads it or not, you at least will have the peace of mind of having done the right thing.
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What should people know about JW?
by Mrs Smith ini have been asked to talk to a group of people about jw.
what would you say is the most important thing non-jw need to know about the wbts.
this is what i have in mind, please feel free to comment.. 1) jw history.
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changeling
That independant and critical thinking are condemed. I think that says it all!
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What's your all-time favorite Song by musician ? Name Song and Artist
by flipper inflipper again.
personally my all time favorite song?
stairway to heaven by led zeppelin.one of my top favorite groups ,too.
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changeling
It depends on my mood:
Morning has Broken Cat Stevens
Imagine John Lennon
Close Every Door From: Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat by Andrew Lloyd Weber
Many more that don't come to mind...
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changeling
I think religion is a cruch. It's a copeing mechanism for dealing with problems. People in general seem to want to know: "where did we come from, why are we here, where are we going?" Religion gives them answers. Whether these answers are based in reality doesn't seem to matter.
I think that many years from now (centuries, milleniums) if makind hasn't blown itself to bits or global warming hasn't wiped out all human life, there will be no religion. Mankind will have realized it's own innate potential and learned how to use it wisely.
Imagine...
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Breaking the news to my family this week....if I can get up the nerve!!!
by Juniper inso, here's the deal....i've spent the last two years riding the 'inactive' train and it's gone pretty smoothly.
but it's gotten to the point where i have to tell my folks that i don't intend to ever go back.
i've been putting it off because i know my dad will want to hear exactly why i want to do this, and then (obviously) try and 'reason' with me to think otherwise.. i love my family a lot, but i can't lie to them anymore and continue to blame my lack of meeting attendance on fabricated excuses.. i'm trying to find a way to just say that i don't want to do it anymore without having it turn into a theological argument.
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changeling
I agree with Mum.