Posts by Metamorphosis

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November Watchtower - FDS 144,000... What are they up to ?

by AlphaOmega in

gems from the november watchtower.... searching into "the deep things of god" .

ocr article here.... http://www.sendspace.com/file/vly4jy.

understanding deep things requires study.

Metamorphosis

Reading paragraph 13 makes it clear they consider only the surviving annointed FDSC worthy.

13 God told the nation of Israel: "You are my witnesses . . . even my servant whom I have chosen." (Isaiah 43:10) But on Nisan 11 of the year 33 C.E., Jesus told the leaders of Israel that God had rejected their nation from being His servant. He said: "The kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits." Jesus said to the crowds: "Look! Your house is abandoned to you." (Matthew 21:43; 23:38) As Jehovah's slave, the house of Israel was neither faithful nor discreet. (Isaiah 29:13, 14) Later that same day, when Jesus asked: "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?" he was in effect asking, 'What discreet
nation will replace Israel to be God's faithful slave?' The apostle Peter gave the answer when he told the congregation of anointed Christians: "You are ... 'a holy na-
tion, a people for special possession.'" (1 Peter 1:4; 2:9) That spiritual nation, "the Israel of God," became Jehovah's new slave. (Gala-tians 6:16) Just as all members of ancient Israel formed one "servant," so also all anointed Christians on earth at any one time form one "faithful and discreet slave." What a privilege it is for us to receive "food" through God's slave!

What's interesting is that to do so they jump from Isaiah to Matthew to 1 Peter to Galations to try to do so. Just another example of grabbing scriptures at whim to back any point they want to. Just because Isaiah referred to a "servant" and then Jesus made a parable about a faithful slave doesn't mean they have to be connected.

Morph

14

5go's War of the World ( Risk )

by 5go in

no one want to play so i just started a game myself.. .

i will use my own created players.. .

green = principality of zion leader current = jesus christ.

Metamorphosis

Thankfuly I took a picture, I knocked the board over DOH!

Maybe that was just God's wrath and Armageddon destroying the world....

Morph

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THOSE WHO ARENT JEHOVAH WITNESSES

by the333 in

jw
friends

those who aren't in the truth i feel much pity for you.

all of you are filled with much hatred and anger that all you can do is blast out of your stupid mouths horrible things about the one true religion.

i feel sorry for you that you will not have ever lasting life.

Metamorphosis

worldtraveler - classy reply to your initial post.

i know it's hard for alot of us to control the anger we feel over being hoodwinked for many years...but remember the many lurkers who read this site like i was a few months back. the more love and logic we show, the less hate and anger we display, the more we will open the minds of those who are on the fence. sometimes i wonder if i would recommend this site to someone in doubt because of some of the hostility towards current jw members. just remember most of us were in the same situation at one time - it takes different paths and different reasons for people to finally see with open eyes....

as for 333 - welcome and look around. if you seriously believe your statement, then examine those beliefs against the arguments presented here. if you do this with a true yearning for understanding and knowledge you will either have your beliefs re-inforced if they are true or your eyes opened if they are not. my guess is much awaits you.

Morph

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5go's War of the World ( Risk )

by 5go in

no one want to play so i just started a game myself.. .

i will use my own created players.. .

green = principality of zion leader current = jesus christ.

Metamorphosis

LOL - i thought it was awesome. i used to play Risk all the time. now it's like role-playing risk.

So what happens in round 2? Inquiring minds want to know!

Morph

29

Did everyone see this?

by Eliveleth in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjzbht4vzty.

Metamorphosis

wow - part1 was informative and brought back the past....but the part3 video is just extremely heartbreaking...

i can't believe i had that attitude...that because someone wasn't a JW they weren't worthy. what a jerk I was. May God have mercy on my soul.

Morph.

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The Effect of Losing Elders

by metatron in

jw
friends

losing elders in the us puts the organization into quite a dilemma.

they hate large congregations.

but can't split without enough appointed local 'enforcers'.

Metamorphosis

I agree they seem to be getting desperate for people to cover. I personally have 3 relative-in-laws who were appointed Elders UNDER THE AGE OF 30. Also the local hall has been appointing ministerial servents left and right from brothers who either are very new to the truth or have 0 teaching/speaking abilities. I know that is not a qualification for being a MS, but why assign brothers public talks and instruction talks who you can barely understand and aren't very coherant? Because the older elders are tired of doing all the work and more than happy to pass it on to anybody and everybody. When I was serving I know I had at least one part, sometimes two every Thursday night.

Morph

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Fresia...my story

by fresia in

hello all, i must say it is really very hard for me to know where to start.

but i guess a little bit of background before i became a jw may have to be said.

i came from a disfunctional family and at the age of 3 was sent to homes, returned back to my family only later on to be sent back to other instituations, mainly due to neglect, but later on due to my running away from an abusive home.. my mother was religious, permiscuious but still religious, this turned me of religion in general but i liked and believed in the bible.

Metamorphosis

Welcome Fresia and thanks for sharing your story. Sounds like you have been through a lot but are trying to keep a positive attitude. Best wishes on your journey. JW's may have some things correct, but their refusal to accept any criticism or disagreements to the point of shunning those who attempt to discuss these, even though they have been shown wrong about many statements, makes them guilty of unchristian behavior.

Morph

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I'M NEW WISHED IWOULD HAVE FOUND THIS SITE A LONG TIME AGO

by okiesooner1966 in

here is part of my story until i have more time.

i am know 30 years old, i have been married for almost 9 years to someone who has no relgous ties at all.

i was baptized when i was 19 due to pressure from my family, they wanted me to to get baptized when i was 16. i think i may hold the record for most comitee meetings probably about 20, i was publilcly reproved and disassociated.

Metamorphosis

OkieSooner - by the way, we'll be forming a judicial committee to talk to you about using all caps in your posts. We may have to mark you.

LOL - Just kidding - and welcome to the board.

Morph

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God help me - Just finished Crisis of Conscience

by Orgull in

i don't know whether to laugh or cry.. a friend lent me coc yesterday and i stayed up most of the night reading it.

it took me 13 hours and i skipped the meeting today to keep reading, i couldn't bear to put it down.. i am shocked but not surprised at how closely ray's thinking mirrors my own in some ways.

the part that hit me hardest was.... "conviction, it has no meaning or validity unless it is individual, personal.

Metamorphosis

It sounds like you're on the right path now. Best Wishes for your journey.

Remember to keep looking forward - and feel blessed that you now have the ability to mold and shape the rest of your life in a better way. Focus on that instead of looking back at what is lost. Nothing can change the past but you are well on your way to changing the future.

Work to accomplish what you would have never tried within your former walls. You have broken free of the rut - feel the happiness that comes with being able to explore your new world without boundries.

That is what keeps me from feeling pain or anger towards the past - I know I have so much to look forward to now!

Good Luck

Morph (Seeing the world for the first time)

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Body Modification/older societies/similar to WBTS view of women

by restrangled in

jw
friends

i have just read the book, "snow flower and the secret fan" along with watching part of the national geographic series "taboo".

sadly, most of the modification involves distortion of the female body which then inturn, affects the minds for generations.. most of the justification for the body modification was to keep women in line mentally.

generation after generation of mothers were taught that neck lengthening, breast flatening, foot binding, and female circumsizing kept the girls clean and free from attracting men and kept them "down" in their societies.. i am not suggesting the wbts society approved of these physical methods, but the mental ramifications were adhered to and the result is the same.. women are considered second class citizens in this patriarchal society.

Metamorphosis

Here is an interesting quote for you - from 1962 WT August 1st

"Further, many authorities recognize the subservient role of the wife and the helpful position she can occupy toward her husband. Notice what one woman psychologist said recently: 'I am a woman, hence my chief interest is men. And because I am also a psychologist, my interest in men is greater than it otherwise would be. Recently the National Management Association asked me to do some research on the different psychological factors of both men and women. It hoped that what I leared might point to ways of reducing the pressures which develop when men and women work together. I saw emerge these two truths: 1. All women like to work under a ceiling of authority. In short, they like to be bossed. 2. All women must feel that they are needed. These truths arise from the fact that, basically, women feel while men think. Women frequently measure up to men and surpass them in intelligence, but they are handicapped by the weight of emotional drag. Men have more practical minds; they can judge, organize direct. Thus the supervision of women by men seems to be nature's plan, however desperately women fight it.' What this authority refers to as nature's plan we recognize as God's purpose. How wholesome an arrangement it is and how well it works for happy family circles!"

Wow.

Morph