Did Rutherford have any children, and that mansion he lived in till his death did the society get the property or his family??
He was living the hog whilst his members was on soup que's during the depression what an asshole.
Did Rutherford have any children, and that mansion he lived in till his death did the society get the property or his family??
He was living the hog whilst his members was on soup que's during the depression what an asshole.
I see people as people not what they are suppose to believe that may be different to a paticular religion. By the grace of God there go I.
would appreciate if anyone knows what is in the elders manual that is so secret, (hand book) i have asked this before, but had to have certain key to have permission to open the guts of the manual.. would appreciate if someone could help with this..
thanks so much all , for you're help, blondie thanks a lot, I needed to know if they had anything on testing the brothers with speech or spying seems nothing is on there so they must just do this themselves. Doubt if all that is followed and would suit themselves on different issues especially if it involved their family.
Cheers
what happened with the 6000 years?.
jehovah's witnesses are generally very ignorant about the watchtower society history.
most of them would benefit greatly from reading older issues of the watchtower and other literature published by the society in earlier years.
I have a lot of the societies yearly literature a sister in an old congregation had all the original books from Russell and into Rutherford and up till her death in the late 80's, she had exta's she keep and gave me books, stupidly I donated most of them to the congregation for their library, but I did read them, I have a couple left, I still keep the old ones from the early 50's till mid seventies.
Very interesting because the Proclaimers book admits any reference to unfilfilled dates, and we were and still are encouraged not to read old WTS literature because they made mistakes and the light has got brighter, in other words God made mistakes and we should disregard them but believe God and everything he has to say from then on "except when he makes mistakes....that is when a WTBTS date or prophecy does not happen" and the circle goes around. So the God who they say it is impossible to lie has made errors, or is it just the WTBTS, but hey they have never admitted it, so must be Gods fault. Wonderful.
so what rock bands (or any other groups) did you miss out on seeing back in the 60's, 70's, 80's, due to being in the organization?.
who of you sneeked to a concert, and which groups were they?.
c'mon...you know you wanted to see led zepplin!
Guns and Roses, and Dylan in the christian years 80's, but I listen to Wolfmother (oz band) and don't care who cares.
would appreciate if anyone knows what is in the elders manual that is so secret, (hand book) i have asked this before, but had to have certain key to have permission to open the guts of the manual.. would appreciate if someone could help with this..
Would appreciate if anyone knows what is in the elders manual that is so secret, (hand book) I have asked this before, but had to have certain key to have permission to open the guts of the manual.
Would appreciate if someone could help with this.
some of you may have read our exit letter from august of last year which we sent to about 50 of our close jw "friends", many of whom we had been very close to for decades.
we just told them what we had learned regarding the un scandal and provided all the documentation.
we never disassociated ourselves, nor have we been disfellowshipped.
I know plenty of elders that have buisnesses and emply other witnesses, interesting it was said at the last cicuit assembly "building up treasures in heaven" the need to keep things simple and was not the time to go into a buisiness career, interestingly that is nothing new been saying that for yonks...my point elders have buisnesses but we are encouraged not to they don't listen but need the ever trusting publisher to work for them. how hypocritical is that, also wonder how many wont leave the truth in fear of losing their witness customers.
the spying and earvdropping, the secrecy within the elder arrangement, the lack of respect for peoples B/S personal privacy their interferring and meddling in families, children and marraiges. Their self righteous hierachy and elite groups.
And most of all their lack of love in all areas, neglect of the poor the weak, soliciting of money, hypocricy on just about every issue.......on and on.....;;.
i just remembered something from back in my 'active' jw days.
(ahem... little over a year ago) .
from time to time you hear jws talk about how unfair it is that they are a called a cult.
Simply by the elders hand book is enough to answer that, it's a cult full stop.
well, now, i knew there was a good reason why i didn't want to live forever in paradise on earth:.
from the sept 1906 wt .
for instance, those who will constitute the church, and who will be changed from earthly to heavenly nature in the first resurrection--"changed in a moment" --will be spirit beings like unto our lord, and like unto the angels also in respect that they will be sexless.
They were talking about them becoming spirit creatures not fleshly, those that are to be resurrected to heavenly life.
The ones that die prior to arma when resurrected to life on earth are said to be like the angles and dont' marry therefore dont have children, so they don't have sex, or maybe they do, no but we are only suppose to have sex to reproduce.... rubbish once the earth is filled what do we do pull the pud, no cant masterbate against Jah's law, but the scriptures say let her breasts tantilise you, do not hold back from satisfaction.
Well I guess I wont wait to find out.
Good night