Posts by dogon

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What is your strangest "supernatural" JW story?

by donny in

i had just became a witness and a guy i worked with, who was also a jw, told me a story that actually made me laugh and i think it upset him a bit.

the storys were almost always in the third person.

it went as follows.. this brothers wife and him were sitting at the kingdom hall on the end seats of the row next to the back of the room.

dogon

I have heard many storys over the years, and the smurf one was big in the 80s, I still do not know why they dubbers hate the smurfs so bad.

The story I was told by the elder involved so it came from the person it was supposed to happen to.

In Wolverine Michigan there was an elder whos wife left him to become a conutry singer, [she had slept with several brothers from the hall] any way this elder got remarried to another sister, we will call them Daryl LauraTucker [names changed to protect the innocent] They move into the same old trailer that Daryl lived with his formar wife, Laura started to have things be rearanged when they would come home from meetings, She would see eyes in the family photos turn red and glow, After a lot of this type of thing they called a local elder we will call him Richard Schroder, so in come the elders and pray and do the witness rain dance, and they are led to a blanket stuffed underneath the bathtub, they remove it and still they have problems.

I have no idea what a blanket has to do to channel deamons, But problems keep presisting. So in come the ghost busters again, this time after much praying they are led to the crawl space under the trailer, there they find a box of china that has crosses on them. Richard and Daryl take the box of china to the Wolverine land fill, it is not good enough to just toss the box in the dump, they have to wear gloves and slam the plates togeather shattering them, after the deed is done, they drive out of the land fill and head for home, Richard Schroder told me that the splinters of glass in his gloves were still channeling deamons and the glovers started to choke him, he fought to take off the glovers and threw them out of the truck and drove off.

From what Richard told me there was no other problems. LOL

Do I believe this story, Hell no, But I know Richard and can tell you that if you watch people who have problems with "demons" it is always the same emotional people who have these so called problems, I am sure that some people make up storys to get attention, but many are just emotinal people who let their mind run wild.

Funny how it was Richards duaghter, We will call here Robbin, When she tried to commit sueside on herself and her children the elders [Richard her dad and her uncle Gary we will call him] covered up the attempt by saying that the demons attacked. I have so many things in my home that a dubber would cringe at, crosses given to me by a catholic priest, I am an atheist btw, and I collect iron crosses of the third reich, [no I am not a nazi, I love the history of ww2] and many other items that they would burn, I have never had one experiance that could be said to be supernatrial. LOL These people can be whipped up into a frenzi faster than emril can go BAM

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Horrific fuel prices in Germany

by flyphisher in

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1,61 euro per 1 liter = 9,57 us-dollar per gallon (!!).

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dogon

There is one small silver lining to this cloud, The dubbers have to pay for all thier gas and they get nothing to deduct or any compinsation. I find it funny when I drive by a hall on sat. and see the cars. LOL Go for it butholes!! LOL This is less money they have to give the world wide ripoff.

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little WT extras

by agent zero in

you know whats always bothered me intensely?

.. when witnesses (esp.

pioneers) have all the little wt extras, such as the wt year agenda, the wt removable book covers, bible with their name printed on the leather cover, the rv book with the little tower logo on it, "pens from patterson" etc.

dogon

The only reason the society keeps it going is becasue anything that makes you more involved in the society they love it, Anything that keeps people attached to the org. is good for the org. People who make something personalized are much more likely to form an attachment to that thing, and are much harder to show the error of their ways.

The society knows this and in a shamfull way they use anything that works for them, I talked to a psycoligist once and they said that they had studied the dubbers and that there was no doubt that the governing body knows what it is doing and is using these tacticts to control its members, can anyone say cult?

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Witness fear of demons why?

by donny in

during my ten year sojourn through the watchtower, i was always amazed at the witnesses fear and fascination with demons.

occasionally at gatherings, they would exchange "demon" stories, which were just a jw way of telling ghost stories, and you would usually hear a few "uhhs" and "oh my's" as the story was told.

although i had heard folks of other denominations mention demons, it was never with the "shock and awe" the witnesses put into it.

dogon

As Al Gore said about the republicans They played on our fears. This is what orginizations do when they do not have any substance. They play on your fears. Do not vote Democrat the terrorists will win, do not stop supporting the society the demons will attack you. Same control tatic same use of fear.

I dont vote Republican and I dont support the society.

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Shunned again

by tak in

my son called me yesterday, first time in probably 6 weeks, because he lost his car keys, the car is in my name, so i had to get another set from the dealership.

anyways, it doesn't really matter what he called about, it was just in 6 weeks he only calls because he needs something, not a peep before that (very hurtful).

a brother drove him to my office and it was quittin time so i went outside with him and gave him the keys, i was hurt and didn't say much to him.

dogon

Its all about control, As bad as it hurts do not let them make you feel wrong, You may even get a feeling of giving in to be accecpted by family. This will only lead to more problems. Move on live this is the best defence against a JW.

Never beat yourself up over this, it is them, The farther you get away from them the clearer it is. I used to think that maybe if I did this or that. Now the thought of going to an assembly or meeting would be like serving up a plate of vomit for dinner. It makes you shutter and your gut flop around.

I would rather slam my dick in a car door than go to a meeting, And most guys will know how that makes you cringe.

I hate these bastards, I will tell anyone who will listen how much damage they do to familys and individual people.

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Welp- Talked to an elder

by megawatt in

spoke to an elder and mentioned i had some concerns that need addressing.

he asked if it's about the organization and i answered with a simple yes.

it's something i don't want to do, but for some reason the better half thinks it's necessary, as if i need a different perspective on my research and maybe he'll be able to shed some light on my doubts.

dogon

They will not deal with it, they never do. The only thing you can do is draw attention you and your doubts.

I have tried it all over the years and nothing worked. The best I did was have a elder who was a partner in business cover up for me. But only because he did not want the hastle of getting told to keep away from me and cut off his income.

Once the cat was out of the bag, They ran like cockaroaches in the light. They will try to give you some gobledigoup answer that would not work for a 1st grader, and if you do not accecpt it with out question then you are on a list of marked people.

The only way to win is not to play, do not deal with them, just live your life and when asked tell them you have marked them and can not associate with them untill they have saw the error of their way, and that you are not being mean but it is out of love that you do this.

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JW's and weddings

by nana1957 in

i am sure this has been discussed before, would appreciate anything on this.

i was always under the assumption that a jw was not allowed to be an attendant in a 'worldly' wedding.

meaning that you would not be able to be a bridesmaid or groomsman if you were baptized.

dogon

My brother was not allowed to be in his cousins wedding, He was not baptized, Now that marrage has ended in divorce, as so many dubbers have.

My grandfather who was an elder told me that witness marrages held up much better than nodubber marrages. What a load of $hit. Not true. I can count 16 divorces of dubbers, and if they have a union that lasts, it is gods org. that did it, and if a divorce, satan is working over time against dubbers, heads I win tails you loose.

Dubbers are room temp I.Qs and it is best to keep away from them, they are like toxic waste, you can not be around it an not harm youself.

You can only keep away from the toxin.

One of the big reasons I moved from North Michigan and the Babcock family is becasue of how blindly stupid these idiots are,, covering up for people they like who smoke, cheat on spouces, and the like. The Babcock family crazy goes way back when my uncle Dick and his wife Ella raped a girl and the old Wolverine congergation covered it up and paid the girl off, this is but one in a long line of stupidity that goes on in a cult.

Keep away from Jehovah's witnesses or any religion for that matter. They have only one thing in mind, getting your money and you to blindly believe in talking snakes. Life is short and you do not need to believe in fairy tales to have a good one.

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Unrealized hopes and dreams - crappy reality of life

by tartarus in

i am thankful to jehovah's witnesses who taught me the bible.

i still believe it is the word of god.

i have studied other spiritual traditions and have compared different teachings and haven't found one that gives such a positive outlook on the future.

dogon

Hopefully you will be able to make the last step and stop believing in talking snakes. You have to move one step at a time, but you will get there, as long as you keep walking away from religion.

Even after I left the cult I would burn things thought to be evil, I.E. Apostate material. Now after leaving the cult and deprogramming myself. I laugh at the thought of believing in a book that only exists because a group of bishops got together and decided what old writings were gods word and which were not, and then I ran across a couple of great books, "the greatest story ever sold" "the book your church does not want you to read'

I am sure there are others but this along with the book by Richard Dawkins "The god delusion" more for a person who has come to understand that religion, all religion is a scam.

Keep questioning and you will see that there is no answer to life's problems, no one can help us but us, never once in history has there ever been any help from above or below, Things happen and there are no big man in the sky directing things. This is a left over delusion from our unenlightened past.

One thing to remember is that never once in the history of the Dubbers has one thing, not one thing every happened the way they said it would, Even the Russell predicted ww1 is a total lie, he said that the big A was going to happen. Nothing about a world war. And if you are a student of history, you will note that contrary to dubber teaching, there was not world of peach preceding the war, there was a lot of build up to the conflict.

I have asked and never once have they ever been able to give me anything but the type of reasoning that the Nostradamas people give "well if you change the L to S you get Hitler, and if you rearrange this and add that and then multiply by 1.456 you get close to something that could have happened. LOL Religion is a joke. If you want to believe you have to believe by faith, or with out evidence. If these people really had faith why would they strive so hard to twist archeology finds to support their belief?

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The Convention Is OVER!

by B_Deserter in

thankfully i was able to milk my cold this week enough to skip friday.

saturday i sat with friends of mine and was able to sufficiently tune out everything i heard.

there was one guy giving a talk that looked just like david koechner, one of my friends wrote a note to me that she could just picture him with a cowboy hat yelling "whammy!

dogon

Deserter, I left Michigan becasue of the family of dubbers that lived there, and the weather and the sinking economy. Where do they have the ass. now? I used to go to the silver dome, Very hot, and now no food, and bring your own and got yelled at for having a cooler, cant win with these assholes.

Every year they would have several old people who died or had to be medivac out becasue of heat stroke. I worked with a guy named Kunde who would tell me that "thay[the old people who collapsed] did not have to come to the assembly" then a few years later Karl [his dad] died at the assembly. I thought it kind of poetic justice for the uncaring statment he made about other people.

My wifes family is named woods, and mine is babcock, A bunch of room temp IQs LOL

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Ah...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

by sinis in

is all i can say to what my mother told me last night about the convention.

she saw some old buddies of mine (sure ain't my buddies when they never come by just because of differing beliefs...), and they asked how i was and she told them that i was an apostate, and that i had been brain washed!!!

ahahahahahahahahaha is all i could say when i called up (she answered, i called to talk to my old man) and she told me that.

dogon

Im with ya, My family and my wifes family have not visited with us for over 3 years. All because of the day I let loose on a single elder who came by to bring me back into the cult. I hit him with the 607/586-7 thing, and many other falshoods. Now I am branded an apostate, code for not brain washed. Well if they are going to be that Fing stupid I do not need them in my life. I am better off without people like this. And so are you, find people who accpt. you for who you are. You will be much happier in the long run. And how will people like my family and yours feel as they appro. 71 yo and nothing has happened they said would. LOL this is the best revenge, living your life and watching them not live theirs.