The cross thing is a way of differentiating them selfs from other Christian religions. They are like the small business that no one notices so they have to do something to stand out. Going out in the field service is another way that has this purpose and the added benefit of finding people that are depressed and lonely to sweep into the cult. The deception part is funny how they have deceived many with the lies of the end times and being gods channel of communication on earth. Not to mention that the bible itself is a book of bull shit based on the rantings of goat herders.
Posts by dogon
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8Hypocrisy of the study article Jan 30 (November 15 2010 edition) and March 1st 2011
by BluesBrother inthe study was based on the man job and his integrity.
there are several obvious flaws in their reasoning, but paragraph 6 struck me in the eyes.
the subheading "never resort to devious methods" then :.
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"Field Service Groups" are more important now than ever before?
by easyreader1970 inthe scare bells are ringing again in the congregations.
this past week, the field service group leader/commander/overlord/whatever made a pretty lengthy announcement that, going forward, the field service groups are going to be of the utmost importance as we wind down towards the end here.
while no indication on when this end might actually be, it was hinted that we might not always have access to the congregation proper and that the few families that are part of the fsg would have to become close knit that they might depend on one another when things get ugly.. i haven't read everything that has passed through the wbts' sphincter lately, but did i miss something?
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dogon
But they dont help when you lose your mind because of the shit they put you through as a dubber.
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Hello Everyone...Just Joined Today
by DarioKehl ini've been reading this thread for some time and finally had the opportunity to create an account.
i am anxious to meet you all and have a support group/active audience over the next crucial months and years following.
background: long-time doubter, giving way to frustration and skepticism beginning about 10 years ago and finally to total admission that this is a cult and that atheism is the way to go.
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dogon
Welcome fellow Atheist. As David Hume said so well in few words,
Which is more likely, that the whole natural order be suspended, or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie?
Now the best thing to do is make an exit as fast as you can. Every day you stay makes it harder to leave. If you can move if the town you live in is too small to avoid the dubbers. If you can't leave at the moment, start as many new non dubber friends as possible. This will aid you in having support when they pull their inevitable shit of we will ostracize you if you leave crap.
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"We Send Our Warm Christian Love"
by snowbird indid/does this concluding expression on correspondence from the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses irk you?.
it certainly did grate on my nerves because i could sense it was just a formality.. syl.
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dogon
Its like the thank you that you get in an email when you pay your electric bill. For Christians the bible is like a user agreement for software, no one reads it they just scroll to the bottom and hit I agree.
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"Field Service Groups" are more important now than ever before?
by easyreader1970 inthe scare bells are ringing again in the congregations.
this past week, the field service group leader/commander/overlord/whatever made a pretty lengthy announcement that, going forward, the field service groups are going to be of the utmost importance as we wind down towards the end here.
while no indication on when this end might actually be, it was hinted that we might not always have access to the congregation proper and that the few families that are part of the fsg would have to become close knit that they might depend on one another when things get ugly.. i haven't read everything that has passed through the wbts' sphincter lately, but did i miss something?
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dogon
Same old bull shit. Back in the 75 scare and when Communism fell in the 90s they preaced that there would be a time when the elders would have to step in and act on behalf of the GB when communication would be down. People who have invested their life on the lies have look to more of this propaganda with eyes like saucers. They are like the idiots who listed to bagdad bob saying there were not American tanks when CNN had them on camera two blocks away. We need to coin a new word Watchtower bob.
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Another Armageddon Thread...This Time May be for REAL?!?
by Yan Bibiyan inwith the ensuing unrest in north africa and the middle east, i wonder if some "zealous" brothers and sisters are saying: "this is it!!!"..
didn't armageddon suppose to start in the mideast?
isn't the unrest moving closer and closer to israel?
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dogon
That would be the slumber party from hell.
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Another Armageddon Thread...This Time May be for REAL?!?
by Yan Bibiyan inwith the ensuing unrest in north africa and the middle east, i wonder if some "zealous" brothers and sisters are saying: "this is it!!!"..
didn't armageddon suppose to start in the mideast?
isn't the unrest moving closer and closer to israel?
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dogon
For those who don't know the details it gets strange. First of it goes to the king of the north and the king of the south. If I remember the southern king is the duo anglo American power of the USA and Great Britain. The king of the North was Napoleon, then Germany under Hitler, and it was last known as the former USSR. The belief by those who know the details goes that the image of the beast or the UN would out law all religion. Jehovah would protect the dubbers from this wipe out of religion until the very last group of religion is destroyed. Then Satan who controls the UN would send the King of the north to destroy the Dubbers and this would be the trigger that would make Jesus step in to start the war of wars Armageddon. What most dubbers don't know is that the society is looking for the spark to ignite all of this. Like the Archduke Ferdinand's assassination sparked the first world war. So what dubbers who study deep into the bull shit of the cult think is that the unrest of some nation will culminate with the UN stepping in to rid the world of religion to keep stability. This sets the stage for the big H or big A which ever way you want to spell it. But its like shoveling shit from one side of the barn to the other, its still shit and its still there.
When the UN steps in and rids the world of religoin there is a cry of peace and secutiry.
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How do you view the people you left behind?
by sabastious ini had a lot of anger towards them for a good amount of time.
but now, i like to think about the good times we had.
i like to think about their attributes i admired.
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I don't think of them much and don't think much of them. I was smart enough and so are many here to figure out that it is bull shit on a grand scale. As I told my old partner in Michigan who dumped his brother because he did not get reinstated after the"new arrangement" in the late 70s. He said it was his brother who left the religion. I said yes but its you who left your brother. If these idiots will piss on their own blood what chance do I have? None thats how much. To break free you have to work it out in your own mind that its bull shit and understand why. Then move on and move away if you like me lived in a small town where people treated you like a pedophile for not going to meetings. I moved and don't think about them much anymore. I have become so secure in my understanding of the cult that I could no more go back to meetings then to join the NAMBLA group. They equally make me sick to the point of vomiting. I no longer believe that some invisible sky god listens to what I am thinking judging me and answering my prayers and needs. I don't believe in a bible [book put together by the council of Nicea under Constantine the great in A.D. 325] as some inerrant word of god. A book that is at best bad literature and at worst a guide on how treat others with contempt and very poorly. Its bull shit from the first page of Gen. to the last page of Rev. Fuck how anyone could read this clap trap and think for a second that its the word of a supreme invisible sky god.
That a talking snake that was really an angle gone bad talked a woman made of a rib from a man made of mud into eating a piece of fruit from a tree that dispensed knowledge of good and evil. When the tree right next to it was the tree of everlasting life. If the snake [really and angle gone wild] was so smart why not have her eat from the tree of life first and then eat from the tree of good and bad and put god in a real dilemma, He would have to break one of his promises to fulfill the other. Its a sheep herders attempt to try to understand the world around them.
Thor beating the anvil is what thunder really is has more appeal than this crap story. And the Greeks have them all beat with Medusa and krakins.
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Another Armageddon Thread...This Time May be for REAL?!?
by Yan Bibiyan inwith the ensuing unrest in north africa and the middle east, i wonder if some "zealous" brothers and sisters are saying: "this is it!!!"..
didn't armageddon suppose to start in the mideast?
isn't the unrest moving closer and closer to israel?
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dogon
Think of men in black where Tommy lee Jones said there is always some end of the world problem. I sold off all my guns and started to pioneer when the iron curtain came down in 92. I have since bought many of my guns back and left the org in 96 when they changed the def. of Generation. There has always been and always will be some catastrophe happening and the dubbs will always be attributing it to the end times. Its all bull shit so don't get caught up in the propaganda. That said humans do have some problems that will cause us a lot of trouble. We are at peak oil right now, the USA reached this in 71, the world in about 06. Water, fresh water is running low for what the population is using, and in the north pacific gyre its a bowl of plastic soup. We have a lot of man made problems and idiots like the Republicans keep saying it ain't so. Well we are most likely going to see 4$ a gallon oil in summer and those of us who are so stupid as to think the 1.35 a gallon gas a year ago was normal and kept the SUV and Silverado are going to wish they had the Honda.
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My conversation and growing friendship with a 68 year old Witness (a victim of the '75 lie) Most older witnesses know something isnt 'right.'
by Joliette ingreat friendship that i'm growing with a older woman here in milwaukee.. she's a really nice woman.
i like talking to her, and she tells me that she tries to listen to the 'younger folks.
' she said, she actually enjoys talking.
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dogon
Old vs young in the cult have different reasons for giving a pass to the things that are wrong. People who have invested all their life and time giving up putting any money aside for the future because they would be "throwing it in the streets" now have some 40 or 50 years invested and can not make up at this late date for all they did wrong. They have to live the lie or admit their whole life was a failure. The young many are just not developed in critical thinking skills and brain washed to challenge any ideas that do not make sense. Its a catch 22. The borg knows it and uses this to keep people in place. Its all about money and power. Some at the top may be so deluded like Limbaugh drinking his own kool-aid but many have to know what they are doing.