I can remember seeing several older people collapsing under the heat in the Silver dome every year. I talke about it to my partner an elder and he would say, ya it was their choice to go. Well a several years back at one of the last silver dome assemblys his dad collapsed and died under the heat. LOL I wonder if he was so calous then? I have also seen how people from bethel are treated like royalt. Given money and taken places bla bla bal. I left the borg in 96 and have never regreted it for a second. The only regret I have is that I did not leave much much earlier.
Posts by dogon
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26The privileged Bethel speakers and the rest of us Jamokes.
by RULES & REGULATIONS incicero,illinois 1970's.
our four day assemblies in the 1970's through the 1980's were pure torture.. they were held at a horse race track in cicero,il in the smoking hot and humid month of july.
they charged around $2 for parking.
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A sure sign the End is Near....
by King Solomon inthe end of the month, that is, and someone apparently needs to get their hours in.... this resourceful jw (in the left side of the photo) set up shop for a few hours outside a local starbucks, with a wt and awake laid out on a table.
and i i don't think he talked to anyone the whole time he was out there (a few hours).. sure beats all that walking from door-to-door, which would likely result in a bunch of not-at-homes on a weekday: most people are at work.. (i approached him when entering, and asked him about the parable of faithful and "discreet" slave, and asked him what he thought the difference was between a parable and prophecy.
after getting a non-answer (that basically meant he didn't know), i wished him a good morning and went on my way.... .
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dogon
I was raised in the cult and told that we had all the answers and that other religions run from us because we knew all they did not want to believe. Now as I grew up I started to see we had no answers and that we were told shit that we were not to question. Now I see we were nothing but mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed a diet of shit. I wasted so god damned much of my life on that cult and I know enough that when they come to the door they run away, every damn time they run. Like the little brain washed fools they are. I was one of those fools but at least I have an excuse, when I was in, I was young and raised in the mind control of the cult. I slowly saw that the prim rosed path laid out for me was nothing but lies and left. I never let the pressure of having people I grew up with and family not talking to me ever stop me from thinking. I was told time and again that I thought too much. Well I don't see that as a bad thing. I feel I did not think enough or fast enough to get out before 30YO. I wish that I had been raised in any [almost any] other religion or better yet an Atheist home. The JWs and their hate of higher education works for keeping the RnF stupid and in line but Little to help them.
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Why Is My Sister Accusing Me Of Apostasy? (new guy here)
by HelpMeBelieve inhello, maybe i am gambling by posting a thread here at your website.
i don't know what an apostate really is and why someone is removed from the watchtower for this sin.. .
i have a sister in visalia california who is telling all my brothers and sisters "he is an apostate, our schizophrenic brother said so!".
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dogon
Apostate is just a word used to scare people into keeping quiet about thinking for themselves. If your sister is so brain washed as to be willing to throw you under the bus you are better off with out her in your life. Its hard I know but don't waste your life trying to convince others who are telling you how to live that mean them no harm. I had a partner Daryl Kunde who threw his only brother under the bus for a bunch of idiots in the KH and has not talked to him in years 35 I believe. Its a waste of time, the cult will keep them in line and you will dance at the end of a stick and have to lie about who you are to keep them from crucifying you.
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Arcadia Fla. congergation
by dogon injust moved back to fla and used to go to the arcadia congregation.
wanted to know if anyone goes there and who is there that i would remember.
i used to know phil and carry sutherland, the beans, dalaosas, i think i saw marie meeks in the target in pc, jack arnold and tim and jane schmidt.
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dogon
Just moved back to Fla and used to go to the Arcadia congregation. Wanted to know if anyone goes there and who is there that I would remember. I used to know Phil and Carry Sutherland, the Beans, DaLaosas, I think I saw Marie Meeks in the Target in PC, Jack Arnold and Tim and Jane Schmidt. I think I found the Schmidt's in Sarasota, they were in the paper for buying a 1.7m dollar home and then selling in the crash for 680k. Wow thats gotta smart.
Bill Treavor, Bruce Hearon, I bet I would not know many there. LOL. Not that I miss any JWs, it was not a good time for me, I had a friend come to visit and they treated her like she was a whore because she was abused by her husband and left him. LOL. They told me to kick her out into the street and distance myself from her and when I did not I was treated like a leaper.
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I can't believe it, but a kid got marked for having worldy friends.
by Knowsnothing init's true.
last night, a kid got marked for having worldy friends.
the usual no friendship with the world texts made its way in.
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dogon
Marking was a think an individual would do when there was not enough wrong doing to warrant some JC action, Public reproof was done when something was done that the public saw or was in the open but no dissfellowshipping was given.
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Pre-emptive shunning - a growing reality
by cedars ini'm scanning through some of the results from the 2012 jw survey as they're coming in.. the most populous of the six voting categories with 76 voters so far is my own category, for those who are inactive, or "faded/fading" (not disfellowshipped or da'd, but no longer reporting time on the ministry).. one statistic already leaping out at me surrounds the question "do you experience 'pre-emptive shunning' from active witnesses, who view you as 'bad association'?
" of the 74 who voted on this so far, 76% have answered "yes" to this question.. it's early days, and obviously i will have a clearer picture of the extent of the problem once the survey closes at the end of the year.
however, the results already in suggest that pre-emptive shunning is widespread among inactive ones, despite this not being an "official" policy of the society.. i was interested in your opinions as to why this may be?
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dogon
This is nothing new. In the late 70s and early 80s there was a practice called marking that got out of hand. It was encouraged by the Borg for individuals to mark someone as bad association and not include them in functions or association outside of the hall. It got out of hand real quick and they had to do a few special talks because what it did was to make OK cliques. If someone did not make it too 2 meetings in a row some of the idiots would "mark" a person. Some would mark just because they did not get along. Then the idiot ass holes who never saw a pussy in their life tired to reverse it because everyone was marking someone. It ended up being a great division in the hall. You see most people think its fine to mark others or worse but its not OK for them selfs. Its like Mark Twain said, "nothing needs reforming like other peoples habits. "
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Shouldn't we all aim to be inspired by God?
by Listener inreading comments on this forum makes me think about so many facets in understanding god's word and how he works.
i was very puzzled as to why djeggnog had so much trouble in trying to explain the difference between being guided by god's holy spirit and being inspired.
he stopped posting when he was cornered on this.
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dogon
Inspired by what? War, Starvation?, Disease? Just what about this world is so god damn god like that we should be in awe of it? If we are here by natural occurrence than awe is in line, but if an intelligent designer is to blame than he/she did a piss poor job and not only is a dead beat dad but a fucking asshole to boot.
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Do you sense that the Watchtower will implode?
by AK - Jeff insince leaving the organization 8 years ago, there have been more significant changes in the actual, physical activities of the organization than occurred in all the 40 plus years i was 'in'.
bethel closings.
bethel layoffs.
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dogon
Nope. You would think so but what is really happening is you are seeing the false base the cult is built on. From the very beginning of the cult which had its base in the Millerite movement in the 1840s. Where Miller predicted to know the end of days and it was 1846. People sold farms and did not plant crops and went to the top of some mountain to wait for Jesus and guess what? Its know known as the great disappointment of 1846. Miller was the basis for the current Witness and Adventist movements that are waiting for the end times. They are not the only ones but its a fact that the more wrong a cult is the more the members seem to rally around the cult. Yes some leave as we did, but they are replaced by people who this is all new and exciting to them. The en of the world, WOW now I don't have to go to school and worry about my 401k and I can just play till the end comes.
I personally saw how many people gave up jobs and had just enough money to live to the middle of 1976 because we were told the end was very likely in 75. Stay alive till 75 was the BS. My father in-law worked for GM. He would have retired with a nice 2k a month pension and health care. He left and moved to North Michigan to wait for the end like the rest of the lemmings. Well he ended up scrapping for a living and now he is in Kentucky barely eeking by with his SS. and he still holds on to the belief that the end is neigh. I have seen some very intelligent people who you could not pry this crap out of their heads with an eight foot crow bar. Its like someone JB welded it to their brain stem.
So yes the society has gone though some very weird times and things, like the millions now living will never die, because the end is in 1925 bla bla bla, and you know what? People still support this crap. No its not on the edge of ending because the lemmings will never think for them self in enough numbers to make it collapse. And there is one born every min. as old PT used to say.
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What do you make of THIS?
by TimothyT inarrangement the ark the law covenant the new covenant the organisation.
leader noah moses / the high priest jesus christ the governing body.
entity for salvation the ark the tabernacle / temple the body of christ the organisation.
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dogon
How can you be anti something that does not exist? Jesus is a myth and if he existed he was just a man who wanted to make a religion to keep from pounding nails, born to a woman who was screwing around and thought that telling her husband that god did it was better than telling him schekbin the stable boy knocked her up. And now we are fighting wars because some whore could not keep her legs togeather.
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I HAVE JW'S IN MY LIVING ROOM RIGHT NOW!
by TimothyT ini looked out the window and saw a car that belongs to a jw couple who have come to see my dad.. i decided it was time for another cup of tea .
no response!
i made myself a cup of tea, and realised there were two cups just brewing, so i called into the living room: "dad are these drinks for **** and ****?
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dogon
You had JWs in your living room, now thats going to leave a stain. Its going to take Jwxy clean to get it out.