Francois

Joined

• started 145 topics
• posted 5,149 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Francois

• 
  4

  Are JW's a cult response

  by JoRiz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.ajwrb.org/victims/index.shtml.

  http://www.dreamwater.com/spotlight/changedhistory.htm.

  http://www.dreamwater.com/spotlight/changedhistory.htm.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Francois

  Stand by. In a few days I'll post an essay proving beyond doubt that JWs are indeed a cult.
• 
  10

  Marking brothers and sisters

  by jurs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few weeks ago in the chat room, i learned that jw's didn't always mark their brothers and sisters.

  i was baptized in 1994 and i believe that "marking" was done as early as that.

  was this "marking" new light ?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Francois

  It does go further back than that. The first time I heard of it was somewhere in the 1974 timeframe. And boy did some of the more abrasive people in my congregation outside Atlanta jump right on the bandwagon. People were being "marked" right and left, especially by CB, local "glorious one" and abrasive twit par excellence.

  Franc
• 
  26

  Loss or gain?

  by Deacon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on sunday, i sat outside the local kingdom hall waiting for the meeting to start.

  being disfellowshipped, i was gonna go in late.... 20 minutes later.. i went to a starbucks instead.. i think im over it....i really do.. its a shame.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Francois

  Deacon, you CAN be sure of something again. It's just a matter of discovering what that might be for you. Suggest you investigate meditation of some sort as a technique of making contact with the indwelling spirit, the one to which Jesus was referring when he said that the "kingdom of heaven is within you."

  It really is there and it really is contactable. But it requires that you make the sincere effort; on your own, and not through a self-important, self-righteous, self-appointed organization of men.

  And once you've realized this pearl of great price, you'll never think of the so-called "certainty" of the WTBTS again. In fact, you'll never need any "other" to intercede for you again.

  Best,
  Frank
• 
  5

  Help With Reference?

  by Francois in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure you remember the statement in the wt that goes something like - the organization of jws is the only channel of communication that god is using...words to that effect.. would any of you who have the exact quote and its citation please email it to me when you can?

  i would very much appreciate your help.. francois

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Francois

  Modestly bringing to the top. Really would like to have this reference.

  Many Thanks,
  Francois
• 
  22

  Divorce Policy of JWs

  by Ray Skyhorse in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a general question about the policy of divorce.

  i'm a not a jw.

  can anybody get a divorce?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Francois

  I'd like to point out a conceptual conundrum here.

  It's said that God invented marriage.

  It's also said that what God has yoked together let no man put asunder.

  Divorece is rampant. People are splitting up in record numbers.

  If God really did invent marriage and linked two people in a permanent union, those two people would STAY linked together throughout all eternity, or until God decided to unlink them, NO MATTER WHAT.

  ipso facto God had absolutely nothing to do with the invention of marriage. It is a human invention that the church has through the ages butted into, and arrogated to itself the right to make rules about in God's name.

  I say the church, and especially the WTBTS, is fulla shit; and I say fuck 'em all.

  Francois

  NOTE TO GOVERNING BODY: You've been challenged to a debate, boys. Dont you have ANY balls?
• 
  12

  Whenever it is that they are saying...............

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "peace and security"

  freak a dub out - send them this link!.

  http://www.un.org/peace/index.html.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Francois

  Have you ever gone to sleep and slept so soundly that even though you were asleep for eight or ten hours when you woke up, it was as if you had just closed your eyes? The entire night had passed as if it were only monents long?

  This exciting stuff you're all looking for in a New World may be just that close.

  I really do believe that we will close our eyes in death on this planet, and regardless of how much time might pass, we will awaken in the next level of being as of the same moment insofar as our own consciousness is concerned!!

  I have no real idea what that next level of being will be like, but it's gotta be better than this. I don't think, do you?, that there is some magic in natural death such that we will be converted from an animal origin being to a full-blown spirit in one swift step. It makes sense to me that there are a series of lives, each one more spiritual and less material, intervening between this life and our eventual arrival at the center of all things as a pure spirit being.

  And all those lives lived across a near-infinite universe, evolving with each new life into a less material, more spiritual being until all traces of the "mark of the beast" - that of our evolutionary animal origin are forever gone.

  Now that's an exciting prospect!

  And it's a damn site more appealing than living forever imprisoned in an animal's body on an evolutionary world under the hegemony of Jehovah's Witnesses. I'd rather be dead.

  Francois

  NOTE TO GOVERNING BODY: You've been challenged to a debate, boys. Dont you have ANY balls?
• 
  19

  Who was the Strangest on the Doors?

  by individual in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, who was the strangest person you ever met in the field service, or what was the strangest experience?

  i once met a man who claimed that he had invented everything, including the hovermower, the hovercraft and the xylophone.

  he said he created the hovermower out of dustbin lids attached to an old lawnmower.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Francois

  Don't 'member no orange Dodge, but I do remember the ex-mayor who was in the final stages of syphillis standing one the corner hooting like unto an owl, or was that Big Stone Gap with Radio WLSD? I disremember.

  Good friends of mine pioneered round about there too: Richard and Maria Hickman. Know them?

  ft

  NOTE TO GOVERNING BODY: You've been challenged to a debate, boys. Dont you have ANY balls?
• 
  19

  Who was the Strangest on the Doors?

  by individual in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, who was the strangest person you ever met in the field service, or what was the strangest experience?

  i once met a man who claimed that he had invented everything, including the hovermower, the hovercraft and the xylophone.

  he said he created the hovermower out of dustbin lids attached to an old lawnmower.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Francois

  Yup. We worked sometimes or' to Black Mountain, 'round Hazard, too. Worked it out of the Kingsport, TN congregation. Same sorta people.

  ft
• 
  8

  how do i show my letter?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've writen a letter to the society on microsoft home publishing and i want to show it here but can't work out how to do it .. does anyone know?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Francois

  Have you tried a simple cut and paste?

  Does the program you used have a "save as" html? If so, save your document as html and then cut and paste that.

  I think.

  F
• 
  19

  Who was the Strangest on the Doors?

  by individual in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, who was the strangest person you ever met in the field service, or what was the strangest experience?

  i once met a man who claimed that he had invented everything, including the hovermower, the hovercraft and the xylophone.

  he said he created the hovermower out of dustbin lids attached to an old lawnmower.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Francois

  Working in the rurals in the hollows of the mountains of the state of Tennessee. And I mean waaaaaaaaay back out in the mountains, up one-lane gravel roads past where the electric poles ended. And not a man-made sound could be heard.

  Get out of the car and walk up to the front of the "house" perched on a drop-off and luckily reading the message etched in acid on the glass of the front door: JESUS ONLY.

  And they damn will meant that thing.

  Back down backwards off that front porch and hustle around to the back door where lesser beings are expected to call. "Howdy neighbor. I'm here to talk to you about Jesus."

  I might as well have been handing out hundred dollar bills.

  "Come on in, son, you're just in time for dinner."

  "I really don't think..."

  "NONSENSE BOY. We welcome the company. And today we're havin...Why, it's hotter'n' blue blazes out here, get those folk outta that car and get 'em on inside here. HATTIE? YOU HATTIE? Company for dinner, old woman. Get three, no four, more plates on the table."

  * * *

  It was the simple faith of people like this, devoid of any guile, that made me ashamed of what I was doing. Peddling worthless shit to these people. Hustling shit that was going to change next week, or next month, or year anyway. There are many reasons I left the lifeless to themselves, and this is just one of 'em.

  Francois

  NOTE TO GOVERNING BODY: You've been challenged to a debate, boys. Dont you have ANY balls?