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  This Is Too Unbelievable To Be To Not Be True

  by Mister Biggs in

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  in other words, you couldn't make up a story like this!.

  http://www.canada.com/montreal/news/story.asp?id={13469c4b-96e3-4468-ac1d-1261b18585a8}running out of chancescouple among many now unable to appeal after refugee claims rejected.

  irwin blockmontreal gazette.

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  does Canada have censorship?I can't access to Canada's web page....lol
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  JWs without Christ?

  by cyrano in

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  the all knowing watchtower geezers claim christ is not the mediator for mostly all jws: .

  jesus christ, is not the mediator between jehovah god and all mankind.. he is the mediator between his heavenly father, jehovah god, and the nation of spiritual israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members.

  (worldwide security 1986, p10 par 1 the desire for peace and security worldwide).

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  That's what the Watchtower says,even though the Bible says different.I'm going to send out new light too.The New World's Translation of the Holy Scriptures,(nwt)IS not the Holy Bible.I have many reservations on the NIV,but it states the same on the mediator in any Holy Bible.

  The NWT,1970 edition,even says in hebrews 1:6,of the angels worshipping Jesus.And in the big brown referense NWT on John 1:1,even though it has an,"a,"in it,the foot notes on the bottom of the page it still says,"God,"without the,"a."

  So the light bulb,the new light,is still on.Is it getting brighter?
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  I'm new at this!

  by SweatPea in

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  hi guys and girls!

  i've been visiting this site for the last three days and decided to join the group.

  i was df in 1965 and to tell you the truth (no pun intended) i don't think i have ever recovered.

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  Susie,When Adam and Eve fell,God still helped them.But for the WatchTower...forget it.My ex and I got into in WatchTower in the 70s through her parents.So when they Dfed her and after 1975 I really went into over time on researching the full WatchTower.What I found would make Satan proud.
  The WatchTower,since the beginning,have been destroying family lives by the thousands,if not millions.Your's is not the first and won't be the last.Scotland has proven that the WatchTower lies all the time.Even in court.Keep on praying,as I shall for your family.As long as as there is a chance prayer may turn your family.Prayer,it works.
  God Bless you.........

  "It is not a form of religious persecution to say and
  to show that another religion is false
  as being false, thus allowing persons to see the
  difference between false religion and true religion."
  (Watchtower 11/15/63, p 688)
  RevFrank
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  I'm new at this!

  by SweatPea in

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  hi guys and girls!

  i've been visiting this site for the last three days and decided to join the group.

  i was df in 1965 and to tell you the truth (no pun intended) i don't think i have ever recovered.

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  Welcome Susie

  "It is not a form of religious persecution to say and
  to show that another religion is false
  as being false, thus allowing persons to see the
  difference between false religion and true religion."
  (Watchtower 11/15/63, p 688)
  RevFrank
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  Jehovah's Witnesses ..already in the 13th century

  by MacHislopp in

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  don't be surprised but it is.... true.

  let's read:.

  " it is quite evident that the early waldenses were .

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  MacHislopp...Bible tells us that Satan was a lier from the beginning.....that being said I read WatchTower Stuff and quote their stuff,but I'd never,ever,trust anything the WatchTower writes.Satan is a lier from the beginning and so is WatchTower material.

  "It is not a form of religious persecution to say and
  to show that another religion is false
  as being false, thus allowing persons to see the
  difference between false religion and true religion."
  (Watchtower 11/15/63, p 688)
  RevFrank
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  Jesus' Death-Stake or Cross?

  by Dutchie in

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  ive always wondered about the controversy regarding whether jesus died on a cross or on a stake.

  whats the difference anyway?

  his execution was simply the way the romans put people to death.

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  I’ve always wondered about the controversy regarding whether Jesus died on a cross or on a stake. What’s the difference anyway? His execution was simply the way the Romans put people to death. What should be important is the fact that his death atoned for our sins and not the method of his death. Yet, the controversy has been waging all these years, cross or stake. I say, who cares?
  True,it doesn't matter how Christ's death came about.But on the other hand it was Rome's punishment for crimes that were extreme,not the jews.A cross beam held together for a longer painful punishment to the death.The stake,WatchTower's fantasy mith,would have killed the criminal faster.

  "It is not a form of religious persecution to say and
  to show that another religion is false
  as being false, thus allowing persons to see the
  difference between false religion and true religion."
  (Watchtower 11/15/63, p 688)
  RevFrank
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  Nazi Germany or WatchTower?

  by FrankRaven in

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  watchtower has been silent on many issues,because they refuse to listen to others on key issues.we hear about the un,child molesters,sexual abuse,prophecies that are changed when a false prophecy fails.the one important issue above all is that the watchtower tries and some times successeds in absolue control.absolute control will always fail when one person stands up and says,"enough!".

  watchtower denies the resurrection.....watchtower says,christ is nothing more then a man.watchtower adds or removes scriptures whenever it suits their purpose.watchtower says the chosen people are the 144,000.they don't care to read romans 11.watchtower says that the resurrection was a spirit when the bible clearly says in luke 24:39,that it was him,not a spirit.many witnesses can't see that.. like solomon who had 2 generals who thought better then the wise king.so solomon allowed the 2 kings who thought better carry out their plan and was killed by the enemy.how can a man confience those who are wrong when they think they are so right?in comes the holy spirit.. the watchtower adds truth to their lies.so did satan to eve.so when one adds a tiny truth to a complete lie the story winds up corrupt,so wrong,it becomes evil.. what is a lie,a fib,a white lie,or to give off information that would make a person or group believe other wise?nazi germany was very good at it.since we read that the society was involved with germany at the time,i,my own opinion,feel that some of the society was involved deeply.hilter wanted a 1,000 year reign too.but it was worship that hilter demanded too.so does the watchtower.jehovah god's spirit filled org.anyone who's a witness can you remember what was said as you were baptized?being baptizing in the name of the father,son,and......what?.

  was the watchtower taken over by the spirit filled org and not the holy spirit?watchtower doesn't like john 14 either.nor do they enjoy romans let along romans 8.. i've read child sexual abuse,and other crimes that have been commited by members of the watchtower.plus the watchtower lies a lot.. witnesses,be very careful how you see the watchtower.if you doubt don't go asking the elders.they might want you to meet the commeette.watchtower wants absolute control.i shall never attack any one who's a witness.i confront the watchtower bible and tract society.are they witnesses you may ask?possible,but they are of the ruling class.they must be asked questions and they must be made accountable.the world made nazi germany accountable.we must make our leaders accountable,if they plan to rule.. as for pandelo,d8ta,and all the others who were brave enough to stand against golith,may god go with you,always............ .

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  WatchTower has been silent on many issues,because they refuse to listen to others on key issues.We hear about the UN,child molesters,sexual abuse,prophecies that are changed when a false prophecy fails.The one important issue above all is that the WatchTower tries and some times successeds in absolue control.Absolute control will always fail when one person stands up and says,"ENOUGH!"
  WatchTower denies the resurrection.....WatchTower says,Christ is nothing more then a man.WatchTower adds or removes scriptures whenever it suits their purpose.WatchTower says the chosen people are the 144,000.They don't care to read Romans 11.WatchTower says that the resurrection was a spirit when the bible clearly says in Luke 24:39,that it was Him,not a spirit.Many Witnesses can't see that.
  Like Solomon who had 2 generals who thought better then the wise King.So Solomon allowed the 2 Kings who thought better carry out their plan and was killed by the enemy.How can a man confience those who are wrong when they think they are so right?In comes the Holy Spirit.
  The WatchTower adds truth to their lies.So did Satan to Eve.So when one adds a tiny truth to a complete lie the story winds up corrupt,so wrong,it becomes evil.
  What is a lie,a fib,a white lie,or to give off information that would make a person or group believe other wise?Nazi Germany was very good at it.Since we read that the Society was involved with Germany at the time,I,my own opinion,feel that some of the society was involved deeply.Hilter wanted a 1,000 year reign too.But it was worship that Hilter demanded too.So does the WatchTower.Jehovah God's spirit filled org.Anyone who's a witness can you remember what was said as you were baptized?Being baptizing in the name of the Father,Son,and......what?
  Was the WatchTower taken over by the spirit filled org and not the Holy Spirit?WatchTower doesn't like John 14 either.Nor do they enjoy Romans let along Romans 8.
  I've read child sexual abuse,and other crimes that have been commited by members of the WatchTower.Plus the WatchTower lies a lot.
  Witnesses,be very careful how you see the WatchTower.If you doubt don't go asking the Elders.They might want you to meet the commeette.WatchTower wants absolute control.I shall never attack any one who's a witness.I confront the WatchTower Bible and Tract Society.Are they Witnesses you may ask?Possible,but they are of the ruling class.They must be asked questions and they must be made accountable.The world made Nazi Germany accountable.We must make our leaders accountable,if they plan to rule.
  As for Pandelo,D8TA,and all the others who were brave enough to stand against Golith,may God go with you,always...........

  "It is not a form of religious persecution to say and
  to show that another religion is false
  as being false, thus allowing persons to see the
  difference between false religion and true religion."
  (Watchtower 11/15/63, p 688)
  RevFrank
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  Concerning Luke 24:39

  by FrankRaven in

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  when one talks to a witness about the resurrection why do they always say that christ came back as a spirit when christ clearly said in luke 24:39,that he did not come back as a spirit?scripture clearly says that ,"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.".

  "it is not a form of religious persecution to say and.

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  AGuest::::::
  Put Thomas a side for this brief moment,okay?Well try anyway.:-)....In Luke 24:39,Christ said Himself that He was not a spirit.At the moment of death He said,Luke 23:46,"Father,into your hands I commit My spirit."So Christ's spirit went to the Father.
  Some of the greatest scholars in the world do not quite understand the relationship between Christ,His Spirit....as the Bible says,God is a mystery.YEs,to those who desires not seek the truth,but listen to the babbling of men who declair they know.As for me, for those who say they know...they know nothing.
  Why you insist that Christ is a spirit when the bible clearly says that Christ said He was not a spirit.
  As for Thomas...Christ said to him in John 20:28,"Touch me and see."You can put your hands through a spirit.So Thomas said that Christ is,"My Lord and My God."
  So if you're not a Witness why do you put your faith into men?Men will forever fail you.
  Peace Be Unto You...................

  "It is not a form of religious persecution to say and
  to show that another religion is false
  as being false, thus allowing persons to see the
  difference between false religion and true religion."
  (Watchtower 11/15/63, p 688)
  RevFrank
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  Concerning Luke 24:39

  by FrankRaven in

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  when one talks to a witness about the resurrection why do they always say that christ came back as a spirit when christ clearly said in luke 24:39,that he did not come back as a spirit?scripture clearly says that ,"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.".

  "it is not a form of religious persecution to say and.

  to show that another religion is false .

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  AGuest: It never ceases to amaze me how some folks like to hear and listen and never discernment what it applys too.When I was
  talking about Luke 24:39,I never used John 20:28 and never breathed a word about Thomas.John 20:28 is a different issue then Luke 24:39.
  You say you aren't a Witness,yet you use the same terminology,same manners,as I use to apply..I studied with Jehovah Witnessses from 1973 to 1987.They too would answer a question I never asked them.Besides,I believe truthfully,that Satan has blinded those who
  do desire to follow the WatchTower,then Christ.
  In 1Corinthians 2:11,12:2 Corinthians 4:2,3: talk of the hidden things of God which are those who desire the blinding of truth not of light.Yet John 14:26 tells us that the Holy Spirit teaches what one desires the light of truth.
  It is not so confusing when one reads of the mysteries of God and understands.1Timothy 3:16,"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness,'God was manifested in the flesh,Justified in the Spirit,Seen by angels,Preached among the Gentiles,Believed on in the world,Received up in glory.'"
  Again to understand the mystery of God is open for the Holy Spirit and whomever asked prayfully.As it's written in Romans 8:8-10.

  "It is not a form of religious persecution to say and
  to show that another religion is false
  as being false, thus allowing persons to see the
  difference between false religion and true religion."
  (Watchtower 11/15/63, p 688)
  RevFrank
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  Concerning Luke 24:39

  by FrankRaven in

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  when one talks to a witness about the resurrection why do they always say that christ came back as a spirit when christ clearly said in luke 24:39,that he did not come back as a spirit?scripture clearly says that ,"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.".

  "it is not a form of religious persecution to say and.

  to show that another religion is false .

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  When one talks to a Witness about the resurrection why do they always say that Christ came back as a spirit when Christ clearly said in Luke 24:39,that He did not come back as a spirit?Scripture clearly says that ,"A spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have."

  "It is not a form of religious persecution to say and
  to show that another religion is false
  as being false, thus allowing persons to see the
  difference between false religion and true religion."
  (Watchtower 11/15/63, p 688)
  RevFrank