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  Resurrection or Reincarnation.........

  by FrankRaven in

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  folks,over the years,seem to think that they must change meanings and words so the words will fit their own truths.they think truth is relative.but the real facts remain that even though some people think truth is relative,at the same time truth is always open and anything else but truths is a lie.. from a hindu's point of reference reincarnation is a cycle of life in which when we die,we are reborn into another life.it matters not if the next life is improved or not.and returns with a new body,soul,or whatever karma allows itself to be.. resurrection,as in christ,means christ returned as he left.luke 24:39,makes that statement.

  "and he said to them,"why are you troubled?and why do doubts arise in your hearts?behold my hands,my feet that it is i myself handle me and see...for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.

  reincarnation is coming back,after death in something new.resurrection is coming back the same way.. wt or watchtower followers are famous in creating something from nothing out of the bible.they have changed their theology doctrine many times.and those who listen to watchtower is basically a watchtower follower.. so basically,as in luke 24:39,if we believe or teach that christ came back any other way,then we teach heretical blasphemy.

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  You said a mouthful DJ.Even though it's right there in Luke 24:39,Witnesses can't see it.

  As for you Robdar...the resurrection doctrine...I rather believe in what Christ said not the Watchtower
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  Resurrection or Reincarnation.........

  by FrankRaven in

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  folks,over the years,seem to think that they must change meanings and words so the words will fit their own truths.they think truth is relative.but the real facts remain that even though some people think truth is relative,at the same time truth is always open and anything else but truths is a lie.. from a hindu's point of reference reincarnation is a cycle of life in which when we die,we are reborn into another life.it matters not if the next life is improved or not.and returns with a new body,soul,or whatever karma allows itself to be.. resurrection,as in christ,means christ returned as he left.luke 24:39,makes that statement.

  "and he said to them,"why are you troubled?and why do doubts arise in your hearts?behold my hands,my feet that it is i myself handle me and see...for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.

  reincarnation is coming back,after death in something new.resurrection is coming back the same way.. wt or watchtower followers are famous in creating something from nothing out of the bible.they have changed their theology doctrine many times.and those who listen to watchtower is basically a watchtower follower.. so basically,as in luke 24:39,if we believe or teach that christ came back any other way,then we teach heretical blasphemy.

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  Folks,over the years,seem to think that they must change meanings and words so the words will fit their own truths.They think truth is relative.But the real facts remain that even though some people think truth is relative,at the same time truth is always open and anything else but truths is a lie.

  From a Hindu's point of reference Reincarnation is a cycle of life in which when we die,we are reborn into another life.It matters not if the next life is improved or not.And returns with a new body,soul,or whatever Karma allows itself to be.

  Resurrection,as in Christ,means Christ returned as He left.Luke 24:39,makes that statement."And He said to them,"Why are you troubled?And why do doubts arise in your hearts?Behold my hands,my feet that it is I Myself handle me and see...for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have

  Reincarnation is coming back,after death in something new.Resurrection is coming back the same way.

  WT or Watchtower Followers are famous in creating something from nothing out of the Bible.They have changed their theology doctrine many times.And those who listen to Watchtower is basically a Watchtower Follower.

  So basically,as in Luke 24:39,if we believe or teach that Christ came back any other way,then we teach heretical blasphemy.
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  Concerning Luke 24:39

  by FrankRaven in

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  when one talks to a witness about the resurrection why do they always say that christ came back as a spirit when christ clearly said in luke 24:39,that he did not come back as a spirit?scripture clearly says that ,"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.".

  "it is not a form of religious persecution to say and.

  to show that another religion is false .

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  AGuest...I'm so glad you know so much more then Luke who wrote Luke 24:39.Luke says Christ came back the same way Christ left,yet you're telling me that the Bible lied.

  Good going..........You say you're not a witness,yet you denie everything any basic christian believes.You see the only people who say they are christians,yet I know aren't are mormons.I guess you'd have to be a witnesses.You believe in their Arian teachings.

  Plus you're trying very hard to change the subject....that's a Witnesses trick.If the Witness can't defend their heretical theology,they change the subject and argue that others are trying to change the subject.see the subject heading?It says it's about Luke 24:39...meaning the subject is resurrection,not the perfect or imperfect body......

  One more thing.....before I became a Born-again-Christian I was in the Occult,then followed the Watchtower..Both Watchtower and the Occult have great references for each other.

  So get real.......Jesus Christ is the Everlasting Jehovah God.......
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  JW's attacked in Georgia

  by Rado Vleugel in

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  georgian orthodox extremists brutally attacked jehovahs witnesses and burned their literature and filled their baptismal pool with diesel fuel.

  read the whole story on wis:

  http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/

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  for many years I've told many JWs that comparing religions have nothing to do with Persecution.Then some idiot or mental retards,attack a JW assembly in the country of Georgia.What took place is very much persecution,especially from the religious corners.Now I have to start from scratch again.

  Now I must take a stand.There is no love lost when it comes to the Watchtower Society,but for those who thought it would be so cute to ruin an assembly of Jehovah Witnesses,I'm very ashamed of all of those christians who supported this kind of attack.This is religious persecution.As far as I'm concerned religious persecution dos not belong here or anywhere.
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  Concerning Luke 24:39

  by FrankRaven in

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  when one talks to a witness about the resurrection why do they always say that christ came back as a spirit when christ clearly said in luke 24:39,that he did not come back as a spirit?scripture clearly says that ,"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.".

  "it is not a form of religious persecution to say and.

  to show that another religion is false .

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  You say you aren't a Witnesses,yet you're defending the very AntiChrist attitude as the Watchtower said.

  Christ did not say,"I entrust my Spirit," nor did He say,"As I die I'll go to Sheol," or any thing like that.You presume too much when the words aren't in evidence.

  Christ said,"Into your hands I commense my spirit." As I see it Jesus gave up His Spirit to the Father.There is no need to add something that is not there.And if you must assume,as most of the WT Followers do,you're adding something into scripture more then what is needed there.And the more you support the Watchtower the more you become a Watchtower Follower.
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  Concerning Luke 24:39

  by FrankRaven in

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  when one talks to a witness about the resurrection why do they always say that christ came back as a spirit when christ clearly said in luke 24:39,that he did not come back as a spirit?scripture clearly says that ,"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.".

  "it is not a form of religious persecution to say and.

  to show that another religion is false .

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  A Guest..........

  if Christ took on the flesh,as you discribe it,Christ would be a lier.I perfer to say that you're mislead not Christ.Don't go around telling others what Christ might have done, or what the Watchtower fantasizes about.The Bible says that Christ came back in the same flesh He died in or the gospel would be void.
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  WT Says Jehovah a mistake

  by garybuss in

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  "as to the old testament name of god, certainly the spelling and pronunciation "jehovah" were originally a blunder.

  (the bible in living english, 1972, p.7, watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania) .

  what's the deal?

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  So what's new?According to the WT,Byington translated the bible.Since the Watchtower bible and Tract Society are known liers.....they misquote,plus mislead millions why should I trust the Watchtower now?According to their own prophecies and their prophets,whomever they are,they are still misleading millions.And I still,"Quote,"them as liers.Nothing has changed,so neither shall I.

  I've read Steven Byington.It's living english is rather good.So is the KJV that the WT print and won't tell you about it unless you know.Since I require myself to keep a strong displine on myself on the Watchtower,I say the same as the bible,"Satan has been a lier from the beginning."So is the Watchtower.
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  Jw and Greek

  by comforter in

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  his universalization is comical.

  comforter know jw who know greek.

  greg stafford, rolf furuli, firpo carr, fred franz and many more jw.

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  Franz never knew greek.That ws proven in Scotland back in the `50s
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  WHOIS the Antichrist?

  by zev in

  1. watchtower
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  please note the following information from the lack of reasoning book published by the watchtower bible and tract society, inc. "publishers" of the "good news".

  *** rs 32-3 antichrist ***.

  antichrist.

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  Anti-Christ?How about the Watchtower?
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  Do wicked spirits prove a creator exists?

  by haujobbz in

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  i was in town today and spoke to a woman i knew and to my surprise she told me she was a satanist member,i then discussed things dealing with god,spirit forces,occult etc.this then made me think if theres no god where do these active forces come from,is there really a realm of spirit creatures called demons,she then told me that these forces are very powerful and can harm those who interfere with there operations,also she said they have a vast amount of knowledge at their disposal and can give her information which couldnt be known otherwise.

  but does this prove theres a creator ?

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  If course demons,spirits,don't prove that a creator is there.In this universe there is always an opposit of one another.Many,many,years ago when I was in the Occult,I wondered what the opposit was.So when I picked up my dusty Bible one day....I lost my girls,I use to live in NewPort Beach,California;,my Jag,(car),my house(in newport I never paid a thing for my stuff).After a week I lost everything.Now this isn't,quite evil,but my life style was.As I read the Bible I found in it strength,power,control,and love.With God nothing in the end is more powerful then God.

  But don't take my word for it..it's faith......