Hey!Yopu throw away your JW literature....instead throw them my way....Contact me and I'll send you the $$$ to have them shipped.Better,yet,send them COD
FrankRaven
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What did you do with all of your old JW literature
by LyinEyes ini was wondering if any one has kept at least some of the books from the borg.
i have kept a few, mainly so i can have a good laugh now and then, and highlighting all the double talk.. what did you do with all your jw publications??
did you throw them away?.
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my global statement
by lauralisa ini am so off this planet.. i have had so much therapy in the past, i dunno, forty years, that it makes me "sick".. i have learned to speak in cognitive-speak.
i have learned to think in cognitive-speak.. i have survived jw-endorsed "therapy": a jw-sanctioned therapist in northern virginia who could "cure" dissociative disorders in just a few sessions.
she learned this technique from the "society" and therefore, did not charge for her services.
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FrankRaven
Lauralisa..............,I know how difficult things can be when not only are you confused,but your counselor confused too.But I can tell you what worked for me........
John 14:6,"I am the WAY,the TRUTH,and the LIFE;No one comes to the Father except through me."
Jesus said it,I believe it,therfore it is so.Watchtower or any religion is not Jesus.....
Peace Be Unto You.
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Resurrection or Reincarnation.........
by FrankRaven infolks,over the years,seem to think that they must change meanings and words so the words will fit their own truths.they think truth is relative.but the real facts remain that even though some people think truth is relative,at the same time truth is always open and anything else but truths is a lie.. from a hindu's point of reference reincarnation is a cycle of life in which when we die,we are reborn into another life.it matters not if the next life is improved or not.and returns with a new body,soul,or whatever karma allows itself to be.. resurrection,as in christ,means christ returned as he left.luke 24:39,makes that statement.
"and he said to them,"why are you troubled?and why do doubts arise in your hearts?behold my hands,my feet that it is i myself handle me and see...for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.
reincarnation is coming back,after death in something new.resurrection is coming back the same way.. wt or watchtower followers are famous in creating something from nothing out of the bible.they have changed their theology doctrine many times.and those who listen to watchtower is basically a watchtower follower.. so basically,as in luke 24:39,if we believe or teach that christ came back any other way,then we teach heretical blasphemy.
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FrankRaven
Robyn....In Luke 24:39,Christ said that He was not a spirit after His resurrection,yet over and over the WT says that Christ came back as a spirit.
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Al-Qaida-linked Abu Sayyaf Rebels Grab 6 Jehova's
by Rado Vleugel insix jehovah's witnesses were kidnapped by rebels while selling avon cosmetics in a remote philippine village.
police officers found no evidence they were trying to promote their religion in the predominantly muslim area.
read the whole story on
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FrankRaven
What many people don't understand is,if the story came out in newsprint through the Watchtower,I ignore the story completely.The Watchtower,as sad as it maybe,love to martyr people all the time.It matters not who they are or why they are there..as long as the Watchtower can get away with saying,"It's a Jehovah Witness,"they will do it.
Let's say there's crunchy peanut butter and smooth peanut butter.I like crunchy...the other likes creamy.So the other guy says I persecute him because I don't like creamy peanut butter.Yet my opinion of peanut butter is not persecution no more then knowing the difference between the Watchtower and having faith on Christ.
Because of my opinion on the Watchtower is different then the opinions of Jehovah Witnesses I'm accused of persecuting those poor Witnesses.Great real people...Why even Russell says that it's not persecution.
Besides,the Watchtower wants you to put faith in it's org. not Christ.
*** w65 7/1 391 What Is Required to Understand the Bible? ***
He does not impart his holy spirit and an understanding and appreciation of his Word apart from his visible organization.
*** w67 10/1 587 Finding Freedom with Jehovah's Visible Organization ***
Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible. For this reason the Bible cannot be properly understood without Jehovahs visible organization in mind.
*** w81 2/15 19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? ***
We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the faithful and discreet slave organization.
*** w81 8/15 28-9 Serving Jehovah "Shoulder to Shoulder" ***
They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such Bible reading, they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendoms clergy were teaching 100 years ago, and some have even returned to celebrating Christendoms festivals again, such as the Roman Saturnalia of December 25! Jesus and his apostles warned against such lawless ones.
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Resurrection or Reincarnation.........
by FrankRaven infolks,over the years,seem to think that they must change meanings and words so the words will fit their own truths.they think truth is relative.but the real facts remain that even though some people think truth is relative,at the same time truth is always open and anything else but truths is a lie.. from a hindu's point of reference reincarnation is a cycle of life in which when we die,we are reborn into another life.it matters not if the next life is improved or not.and returns with a new body,soul,or whatever karma allows itself to be.. resurrection,as in christ,means christ returned as he left.luke 24:39,makes that statement.
"and he said to them,"why are you troubled?and why do doubts arise in your hearts?behold my hands,my feet that it is i myself handle me and see...for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.
reincarnation is coming back,after death in something new.resurrection is coming back the same way.. wt or watchtower followers are famous in creating something from nothing out of the bible.they have changed their theology doctrine many times.and those who listen to watchtower is basically a watchtower follower.. so basically,as in luke 24:39,if we believe or teach that christ came back any other way,then we teach heretical blasphemy.
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FrankRaven
You said a mouthful DJ.Even though it's right there in Luke 24:39,Witnesses can't see it.
As for you Robdar...the resurrection doctrine...I rather believe in what Christ said not the Watchtower
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Resurrection or Reincarnation.........
by FrankRaven infolks,over the years,seem to think that they must change meanings and words so the words will fit their own truths.they think truth is relative.but the real facts remain that even though some people think truth is relative,at the same time truth is always open and anything else but truths is a lie.. from a hindu's point of reference reincarnation is a cycle of life in which when we die,we are reborn into another life.it matters not if the next life is improved or not.and returns with a new body,soul,or whatever karma allows itself to be.. resurrection,as in christ,means christ returned as he left.luke 24:39,makes that statement.
"and he said to them,"why are you troubled?and why do doubts arise in your hearts?behold my hands,my feet that it is i myself handle me and see...for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.
reincarnation is coming back,after death in something new.resurrection is coming back the same way.. wt or watchtower followers are famous in creating something from nothing out of the bible.they have changed their theology doctrine many times.and those who listen to watchtower is basically a watchtower follower.. so basically,as in luke 24:39,if we believe or teach that christ came back any other way,then we teach heretical blasphemy.
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FrankRaven
Folks,over the years,seem to think that they must change meanings and words so the words will fit their own truths.They think truth is relative.But the real facts remain that even though some people think truth is relative,at the same time truth is always open and anything else but truths is a lie.
From a Hindu's point of reference Reincarnation is a cycle of life in which when we die,we are reborn into another life.It matters not if the next life is improved or not.And returns with a new body,soul,or whatever Karma allows itself to be.
Resurrection,as in Christ,means Christ returned as He left.Luke 24:39,makes that statement."And He said to them,"Why are you troubled?And why do doubts arise in your hearts?Behold my hands,my feet that it is I Myself handle me and see...for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have
Reincarnation is coming back,after death in something new.Resurrection is coming back the same way.
WT or Watchtower Followers are famous in creating something from nothing out of the Bible.They have changed their theology doctrine many times.And those who listen to Watchtower is basically a Watchtower Follower.
So basically,as in Luke 24:39,if we believe or teach that Christ came back any other way,then we teach heretical blasphemy.
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Concerning Luke 24:39
by FrankRaven inwhen one talks to a witness about the resurrection why do they always say that christ came back as a spirit when christ clearly said in luke 24:39,that he did not come back as a spirit?scripture clearly says that ,"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.".
"it is not a form of religious persecution to say and.
to show that another religion is false .
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FrankRaven
AGuest...I'm so glad you know so much more then Luke who wrote Luke 24:39.Luke says Christ came back the same way Christ left,yet you're telling me that the Bible lied.
Good going..........You say you're not a witness,yet you denie everything any basic christian believes.You see the only people who say they are christians,yet I know aren't are mormons.I guess you'd have to be a witnesses.You believe in their Arian teachings.
Plus you're trying very hard to change the subject....that's a Witnesses trick.If the Witness can't defend their heretical theology,they change the subject and argue that others are trying to change the subject.see the subject heading?It says it's about Luke 24:39...meaning the subject is resurrection,not the perfect or imperfect body......
One more thing.....before I became a Born-again-Christian I was in the Occult,then followed the Watchtower..Both Watchtower and the Occult have great references for each other.
So get real.......Jesus Christ is the Everlasting Jehovah God.......
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JW's attacked in Georgia
by Rado Vleugel ingeorgian orthodox extremists brutally attacked jehovahs witnesses and burned their literature and filled their baptismal pool with diesel fuel.
read the whole story on wis:
http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/
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FrankRaven
for many years I've told many JWs that comparing religions have nothing to do with Persecution.Then some idiot or mental retards,attack a JW assembly in the country of Georgia.What took place is very much persecution,especially from the religious corners.Now I have to start from scratch again.
Now I must take a stand.There is no love lost when it comes to the Watchtower Society,but for those who thought it would be so cute to ruin an assembly of Jehovah Witnesses,I'm very ashamed of all of those christians who supported this kind of attack.This is religious persecution.As far as I'm concerned religious persecution dos not belong here or anywhere.
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Concerning Luke 24:39
by FrankRaven inwhen one talks to a witness about the resurrection why do they always say that christ came back as a spirit when christ clearly said in luke 24:39,that he did not come back as a spirit?scripture clearly says that ,"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.".
"it is not a form of religious persecution to say and.
to show that another religion is false .
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FrankRaven
You say you aren't a Witnesses,yet you're defending the very AntiChrist attitude as the Watchtower said.
Christ did not say,"I entrust my Spirit," nor did He say,"As I die I'll go to Sheol," or any thing like that.You presume too much when the words aren't in evidence.
Christ said,"Into your hands I commense my spirit." As I see it Jesus gave up His Spirit to the Father.There is no need to add something that is not there.And if you must assume,as most of the WT Followers do,you're adding something into scripture more then what is needed there.And the more you support the Watchtower the more you become a Watchtower Follower.
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Concerning Luke 24:39
by FrankRaven inwhen one talks to a witness about the resurrection why do they always say that christ came back as a spirit when christ clearly said in luke 24:39,that he did not come back as a spirit?scripture clearly says that ,"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.".
"it is not a form of religious persecution to say and.
to show that another religion is false .
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FrankRaven
A Guest..........
if Christ took on the flesh,as you discribe it,Christ would be a lier.I perfer to say that you're mislead not Christ.Don't go around telling others what Christ might have done, or what the Watchtower fantasizes about.The Bible says that Christ came back in the same flesh He died in or the gospel would be void.