This you man and his father stand as an example of what two people can accomplish, even though disabled, (sightless) this young man has acquired a full joy filled life. His father and mother are priceless., those mothers and fathers who have children they don't talk to because of the borg should listen to this. and then meditate on how their relationship is with their children, not how their relationship is with an organization that doesn't care about the childless boy, single parent or disabled among them. The borg only cares about itself and nothing at all for the R&F it purports to love.
ush419
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For those who want a happy cry... Amazing
by zeroday inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qtiya1wiy8
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JW growth statistics anyone?
by winnie ini am currently debating a topic with someone who cosistantly says that the wt is growing at a rate of 5000 per week and 50 new halls each week.
he reckons he's privvy to 'inside' info that suggests this.. does anyone have any of the actual worldwide growth rates and new halls being built?.
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Jdubs can make the stats say anything they want to. However, the real truth any real growth just comes from 3rd World Countries, and the constant push to have family members (i.e. children) baptized. Had one witless ask recently aren't you encouraging your child to become baptized. I looked them right in the eye and said, "no of course not, they are too young and cant even make a responsible decision on marriage much less on something that will effect thier entire lives, so i have encouraged my child to look, observe actions, see consequences and be like Jesus and become baptized at 30 for heaven's sake just follow Jesus' example."
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2Cor 2:6 "This rebuke given by the majority..."
by freyd injust happened to notice this.
the majority of who?
when there was a congregational trial it wasn't supposed to be secret and behind closed doors and conducted by hired men a la a court martial.
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The problem with the elders is that they think 3 idiots (i.e. elders) is not only equal to one congregation but greater than one congregation. It always amazes me how contrite the elders are and how gullible the cong is, they the cong stand ready to swallow anthing they are told and no one giving any thought to just what actually may be being said in biblical verse.
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I LEFT MY HUSBAND last night. Kind words anyone?
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini am white, my husband is black.
he is not baptized but goes to all the meetings and is in the school.
a few months ago i read the following info which i just copied from vinny's thread.
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So sorry that, that had to happen to you. But i do understand your feeling on this control business. I am having same type of problem with my spouse. Came home from the hall today and spouse starts in "why didn't you clap when the brother got done with his talk," my answer was "I don't just clap because someone gives a talk I only clap at those talks I really aprreciate and that are done well." This started another fight with the spouse and the spouse is trying to be very controlling of how I conduct myself at their supposed spiritual meetings. That even means the book regurge, the sales meeting, and public talk. I think that, that just about did it as I told spouse I don't believe that I will be attending any more meetings for awhile as my attendance seems to aggravate you and you are constantly looking for something to negativitely comment about and I am very very tired of it so it will be better for us if I don't attend said meeting for awhile if ever again. Now spouse isn't talking, whopee!!!! and of course has run off to the casino (yes I said the casino to salve their hurt feelings). Talk about you average hyprocrite!!! I don't care if the spouse goes to the casino once in awhile as that is a form of recreation but can you believe the b.s. I have to go through with them???
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Paedo cases in the org and pioneers.......
by jambon1 inhave you ever sat at a convention or assembly and heard an experience from the platform about how some asswipe pioneer received a bundle of cash for their car repairs, "just in time to keep going in the pioneer service".
or some other form of material advantage, credited to god as the provider.. now, let's for a wee minute, assume that these were actual blessings from god.
he actually took action.
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It also makes me sick to see "some" pioneers, like sister some who attributes all good things to Jehovah, but does the saying when something bad happens that he only protects us spiritually. I got so tired of that b.s. that when she again attrributed our helping to Jehovah, I had to tell her no sister some it was us me and my wife who helped you Jehovah had nothing to do with it. Your are a good friend and we trust you and wanted to help you, but i for one am sick and tired of you attributing the good things we do for you to Jehovah. No its not him its us for crist sakes. Needless to say she was somewhat taken back, then smiled and said it was Jehovah who motivated us. Well that was it the next time she needed help I told her to pray to Jehovah because i sure as hell wasn't going to help and we didn't. She seemed surprised when no help was forthcoming. Live and Learn I told her.
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Under What Circumstances Might a JW View One As An "Apostate"?
by minimus ini got a pm asking this question.
how would a jws radar go up if you were leaning toward questioning things or even showing information from the society's own publications that was damning toward them?
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Just about anything not in agreement with the status quo. i.e. Not believeing that God chose those fools in crooklyn to be his "faithful and undiscreet slave," or 1914 didn't herald Christ's coming unseen.Or belief that the R&F witnesses arern't the Great Criowd. When this was brought up last night as the frarsical beek regurgation, that the only great crowd is those that will (will being the key word) come out of the great tribulation. that sure illicited some gawking and jaw dropping, I mean how dare I point out the obvious. Also that the supposed great crowd of 1935 were mostly all dead except those that were you children sooooo???
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great tribulation
by ush419 inwhat constitutes the great trib????
is this the poss coming war with israel and gog of magog or???
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Has anyone out there read Joel Rosenbergs Ezekiel Option? I found it very interesting and would love to hear yur comments. ush
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Bethel Tour-long sorry
by samiam2b ini'm new as a member but have watched the site for a while.
one of my kids, who lives in another part of the country, came for a summer visit from another state and asked to go on a bethel tour.
she lives with her jw mother and is surrounded by jws and they even baptized her recently.
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The Bethel tour I went on was so unimpressive. I have seen better organizations and accomodations on a Air Force Base. The tour for my spouse was enjoyable for some reason, but i hated it and was so happy when we left. The accomodations for lunch were nothing less than nonsense, the food was bad and not much of it and they had to eat it in such a hurry too. I won't ever waste my time again going to one of those dens or pedophilia protectors.
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great tribulation
by ush419 inwhat constitutes the great trib????
is this the poss coming war with israel and gog of magog or???
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Thanks for your comments., I am not duped by the jdub society or the GB., I however just wanted to know what others think about what the GT was. The WTBTS to my reckoning doesn't have a clue, which isn't surprising. Like I said thanks again. ush
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staying "in Truth" for family--is it worth it?...hyporcrite needing help
by oompa ini have just been outed on this site due to my own stupidity, and lost my anonymity after just a short pleasant while here.
i have been turned in folks, compete with screen name/avatar, by family and i have a ton in.
it is easy to tell it is me, although i never use anyones names.
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Sometimes it is worth it to some, but to others it isn't worth all the hassle to stay in and put up with their mind numbing b.s., I would turn the table on them and tell them how do "I" know it isn't you that's doing it and trying to hurt people's reputation and family relationships. Just put in on one of them and be polite but firm about it. Also, act indignant, that may help especially if you turn the tables on one of them and start to bring out things about them (make em up if you have too) and say I didn't realize you were so _______ fill inthe blanks yourself you should know them better than anyone else they are questioning at the time they are seeing you.