Posts by fedorE

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Gen 2:18-22 ---------my take....STORY OR REALITY??????????????????????????

by fedorE in

jehovah creates adam......ok...all is good.........but jah recognizes that this creature that he just created is all alone...it seems he didnt have plans to create more than one!!!!

but be that as it may.......ok... all is good........then he says im gona make him a "helper"............ok all is still ok.................. ......so at this point when he recognizes his creatures lonliness what does he do??????.

beasts............ are introduced to adam .

fedorE

Thanks for your post. Id like to ramble a little...I would like to know what makes u so sure that Jesus is who the bible says he is. Where does your faith come from now?

Its is simply amazing that although the we will accept the fact that Jesus loves us and died for us on the "cross" and is the Redeemer of fallen man and man only needs to accept him as Lord and Saviour in our mind body,hearts and soul and live for Christ,,,, BUT...at the same time it doesnt matter if Adam is figurative or literal because it doesnt do any damage to the real historical account of the cruxifixtion redemption of mankind...........Is that "reasoning"?......And let us use some earlly church fathers opinion of the first Book of the Bible as proof that it doesnt matter as if they matter more than the book itself.....Is that reasonable?

if we use that reasoning we can use the BIBLE to establish evangelicalism and personal faith in jesus as the Truth. Perfect?

Look man i dont know a damn thing about the Bible , scholars do, but i do know that if i was responsible for a book that purports to have the sayings of everlasting life i have to have the first book in its cannon as understandable Truth. Not open to debate cuz it is the foundation for the New Testament

Why would God have given man a book and then have man question if its first account is figurative or literal .It matters from a -z for me if mankinds salvation is at stake..

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Done any excorcisims? Where is Satan and the demonized anyway?

by coaster in

in jesus day, when he and the apostles were wandering around, demonized people are everywhere.

people just pointed and said "he has a demon in him" and nobody even flinched.

like duh, eveyone knows that and it was normal.

fedorE

Awesome observation. Lets see, off the bat, the best i can come up with is: that since the apostles days when the 1st century congregation was forming all these kinds of things are included in the "doing away with catagory".errr ..ahhh..well no more speaking in tongues, no more secret gifts like visions in the congregation, no more anything AND ESPECIALLY NO MORE DEMONIZED PERSONS walking around town like zombies. There will be no official proof offered in this system of things. All proof is by faith alone. Dont like it ? Then die. Prophecy doesnt care that u dont understand.

There is however another explanation. Satan has a knowledge of events as well. He knows his time is short. He is willing to play by Jehovah's prophetic playbook because he is afraid of pissing him off tooo much so he stays in mid heaven along with his angels and does as much misleading as he can without the ability to materialize like he used to have the ability to do a long time ago.

...Seriously tho........The wierd thing is a certain deceased Father Malachi Martin performed so many excorcisms in NY City according to an interview i heard of him on radio...and he said its rare for the catholic church to get involved but he was always involved....and especially in Manhatten...i dont know i justdont know for sure.

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Gen 2:18-22 ---------my take....STORY OR REALITY??????????????????????????

by fedorE in

jehovah creates adam......ok...all is good.........but jah recognizes that this creature that he just created is all alone...it seems he didnt have plans to create more than one!!!!

but be that as it may.......ok... all is good........then he says im gona make him a "helper"............ok all is still ok.................. ......so at this point when he recognizes his creatures lonliness what does he do??????.

beasts............ are introduced to adam .

fedorE

TRUTH BE TOLD ....THIS PLACE, jwd ... kinda gives me an outlet and makes me feel like im still "spiritual"..LMAO..

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We have the truth - part 2

by MutualRespectPlease in

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friends

does doing what is right in god's eyes mean we have to use only bible terms?

i know the organization is not perfect.

is there strong evidence that he has his people here on earth that although not perfect, are doing his will?

fedorE

MUTUAL RESPECT PLEASE

I LIKE YOU. BUT YOUR NOT LIKE PPL ON THIS BOARD. YOU RE NOT LIKE ME EITHER....YOU IN MY OPINION ARE ---- LIKE THE ELDER, WHO WHILE WITH THE ENTIRE CONGREGATION AT A PICNIC IN A PARK, WAS ENJOYING HIS FAMILY STARED OVER AT ME AND MY FAMILY. HE LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE ASSOCIATION HE WAS ENJOYING,,IN THE PARK ALL FAMILIES, ALL CONTENT, EATING HAVING A GOOD TIME, ENJOYING THE BEST OF THE DAY AFTER THE MORNING IN SERVICE..

THE ELDER CAME OVER TO ME AND THIS IS WHAT HE SAID TO ME:"YEAH WE'RE WRONG, WHO CARES! W H O C A R E S !!!" AND THEN HAPPILY WENT OVER TO ENJOY HIS FOOD AND HIS FAMILY.

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Gen 2:18-22 ---------my take....STORY OR REALITY??????????????????????????

by fedorE in

jehovah creates adam......ok...all is good.........but jah recognizes that this creature that he just created is all alone...it seems he didnt have plans to create more than one!!!!

but be that as it may.......ok... all is good........then he says im gona make him a "helper"............ok all is still ok.................. ......so at this point when he recognizes his creatures lonliness what does he do??????.

beasts............ are introduced to adam .

fedorE

I HAVENT READ THAT BOOK ..JUST SO STORIES....IN FACT I WISH I DID MORE READING...I PLAN TO ...IT SOUNDS LIKE I WOULD ENJOY THAT BOOK. THANKS.

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Gen 2:18-22 ---------my take....STORY OR REALITY??????????????????????????

by fedorE in

jehovah creates adam......ok...all is good.........but jah recognizes that this creature that he just created is all alone...it seems he didnt have plans to create more than one!!!!

but be that as it may.......ok... all is good........then he says im gona make him a "helper"............ok all is still ok.................. ......so at this point when he recognizes his creatures lonliness what does he do??????.

beasts............ are introduced to adam .

fedorE

CHRISTIANS....(SORRY FOR RAMBLING BUT)

WHENEVER U TAKE IN TO ACCOUNT ALL THE SEEMING INCONSISTENCIES THE BIBLE HAS AND ALL THE SEEMING CONTRADICTIONS AND ALL THE SEEMING DISPARITIES AND ALL THE SEEMING THIS AND THAT................

THE POINT CHRISTIANS...IS..........THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE HOLY WORD OF THE MOST HIGH GOD ....THE ONUS IS ON HIM TO HAVE PROVIDED HUMANKIND WITH A CLEARLY WRITTEN RECORD THAT IS FREE OF EASY TO MISINTERPRET TEXTS, LEAVING NO DOUBTS TO ACCOUTS, ECT.....ECT....AND YET WHAT DO WE HAVE TODAY IN THE WORLD ...

A VAST CHRISTENDOM THAT FIGHTS WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT WHAT IS AND WHAT ISNT,WHAT SEEMS AND WHAT SEEMS NOT, WHAT IS INSPIRED AND WHAT BOOKS DIDNT MAKE IT INTO THE TEXT BECAUSE OF WHATEVER REASONS....THEN....

GIVE ME HIS WORD . I WANT TO WORSHIP JEHOVAH/JESUS. I WANT TO PREACH . I WANT TO PRAY TO HIM I WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH HIS PPL. I WANT A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS..ECT... BUT I DONT FIND IT IN THE SCRIPTURES.THE BIBLE CAN GIVE ME EMOTIONAL SENSE. I CAN READ ABOUT JESUS DYING AND FEEL LOVE FOR THIS PERSON-THIS IS WHO I AM AS A HUMAN- BUT I CAN NEVER BELIEVE THE WHOLE BIBLE BECAUSE IT WAS GIVEN TO ME IN A DILAPIDATED, UNCARED FOR, OPEN TO INTERPRETATION AND INCONSISTENT GARBLED SEEMINGLY HOLY BOOK THAT IT BELONGS ON HIS RE-EDIT DESK. THIS BOOK DRIPS OF FAITH FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT QUESTION IT.

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Gen 2:18-22 ---------my take....STORY OR REALITY??????????????????????????

by fedorE in

jehovah creates adam......ok...all is good.........but jah recognizes that this creature that he just created is all alone...it seems he didnt have plans to create more than one!!!!

but be that as it may.......ok... all is good........then he says im gona make him a "helper"............ok all is still ok.................. ......so at this point when he recognizes his creatures lonliness what does he do??????.

beasts............ are introduced to adam .

fedorE

yes!!!!...... ALSO THE POINT!!! ........IF HE CREATED ADAM AND ADAM felt ALONE AND jahs intention was to make the whole earth inhabited with faithful ppl...it seems as if whoever wrote this was making it up as he went along.....exactly!!!..........theres lots of stuff like that once u look and read for urself..........BUT THE FACT REMAINS WE ARE NOT THE FIRST ONES TO REALIZE THIS STUFF PPL HAVE BEEN POINTING THIS STUFF OUT FOR YEARS AND YEARS....

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Gen 2:18-22 ---------my take....STORY OR REALITY??????????????????????????

by fedorE in

jehovah creates adam......ok...all is good.........but jah recognizes that this creature that he just created is all alone...it seems he didnt have plans to create more than one!!!!

but be that as it may.......ok... all is good........then he says im gona make him a "helper"............ok all is still ok.................. ......so at this point when he recognizes his creatures lonliness what does he do??????.

beasts............ are introduced to adam .

fedorE

Jehovah creates Adam......OK...all is good.........But Jah recognizes that this creature that he just created is all alone...it seems he didnt have plans to create more than ONE!!!! but be that as it may.......OK... all is good........then HE says im gona make him a "helper"............OK all is still OK.................

......SO at this point when HE recognizes his creatures lonliness What does he do??????

HE CREATES/BRINGS HIM ........................ A N I M A L S............. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..............................................??????????????......... BEASTS............ ARE INTRODUCED TO ADAM ."Adam must have grimaced....a little pissed off maybe..clueless but still frowned..NO erection after all...all the cattle do not give Adam an erection..all the beasts on the ground and in the air DO NOT DO IT for Adam.(although it must have been awkward with his dong hanging low for both he and the animals staring at each other.....uhmmm!!!)

So Adam needs a "HELPMEET" and Jeh brings him animals."AND FOR MAN HE DID NOT FIND A HELPER TO MATCH HIM"(GE2:21)

PRICELESS!!............IS IT A STORY OR IS IT REAL??????????????????????????????????????..........UR UP JCANON.

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All current JWs: What is this?

by AuldSoul in

the bible students in 1918 numbered very few, fewer than 6,000. within three years, the number tripled.. the "intriguing subject" they proclaimed from 1918 through 1922 was "millions now living will never die.

" upwards of 70,000 attended to hear this message proclaimed in germany alone.

the talk series had a longer title, "the world has endedmillions now living will never die.

fedorE

Very well put Mr slimboyfat.

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The Governing Body's Lackluster Zeal

by metatron in

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friends

in the past, the watchtower put forth real effort to defend its beliefs and accomplishments such as.

the new world translation.

now, with the latest km, they simply confirm that they have left the field:.

fedorE

Couldnt disagree more .Membership NUMBERS have always been important..."as the grains of sand that no man was able to count"...paraphrasing....are how many JWs they want. AT 20 000 000 might be a good number for the start of the great trib..... It may be from time to time they do some house cleaning but they must already know the smell of their own S*** BECAUSE this is what they feel the need to do. IMHO