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Please Tell Me About Ex-Dub Love

by Mindchild in

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i think it is a bit sad that finding and keeping love in our lives is a bit of an uphill struggle.

when i had to choose between the real world and the watchtower world years ago, my parents told me that i would never find love out there in this wicked system of things.

they quoted me scriptures which avowed the myth that only real love comes from the fruitage of the spirit and what passes for love in the world is nothing but lust.

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Typical pompous remark that..what passes for love in the world is lust.
So what prompted nearly every single one of my peers as a JW youth to race into marriage as teenagers? Love or lust?
I married in my thirties as an ex-JW and though lust quite naturally reared it's head LOVE was the driving force that kept us together and still does.
How arrogant of JW's to insinuate that 'worldly' people are incapable of tender and genuine love whether romantic or agape! Yet another fallacy from the Super Smug You Are All Going To Die Crowd...and they want to preach about true love?

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Witness pick-up lines

by momoftwo in

did you know that i was interested in you?

"i'm not interested".

"if you mean that you're not interested in having another boyfriend, i can understand that.

Free2Bme

Oh the memories came flooding back...
So desperate I prayed to meet a brother at the next circuit/district assembly and posed frantically in intervals till sweat broke out..
And didn't it drive you barmey when some married sister would say Jehovah would bless you if you pioneered so you wondered what you must have done to offend Him when you were stuck on the shelf after slogging fulltime 'on the doors' year in year out!!
As for chat-up lines...wish I'd heard a few more..ANY would've done LOL

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The Russell/Mason debate

by NikL in

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i have noticed there is some debate on this board about russell and whether he was a mason or not.

some say he is a part of a conspiracy others say it is nonesence.. i am, to be quite honest, not sure where i fit in this.

i do find it interesting that russell is buried under a pyramid in the masonic section of a grave yard.

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Mad
Did you read the thread?
NikL asked for someone to offer proof that Russell was not a mason.
That's all.
I'd like to see some of that myself.

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I'm Screwed Up, You're Screwed Up

by Farkel in

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i have not followed very many threads of late, so if someone has already made the same observations i'm about to make, i apologize for my redundancy.. .

i admit it: i'm part of a highly secretive, highly elite group.

(we have to drink two quarts of fresh yak blood and get a tattoo of a pentagram on our butts as part of of the initiation.

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. We have to show more tolerance and respect for our differences, and we constantly have to work on developing that "love" for each other that we never had as dubs. It is our duty, no, it is our OBLIGATION to rise above our sordid pasts and let our lives be the examples of compassion and understanding that we never had as JWs.

Well said Farkel, bruv.

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Charitable Planning Brochure

by Free2Bme in

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sorry if this has been covered and i missed it but i just wondered if anyone had got hold of a copy of the brochure 'charitable planning to benefit kingdom service worldwide' that was plugged in the nov 1st wt?.

it astounds me that(in the light of the scathing criticism the wt society is getting) that they dare to publish a booklet designed solely for begging purposes.. anyone with a copy please scan us a few gems to keep us suitably disgusted.. what about the title of the accompanying article?.

'the blessing of jehovah-that is what makes rich'should be re-phrased 'the donations of the living and especially the charitably planned donations of the dead-make the wt society rich'.

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Sorry if this has been covered and i missed it but I just wondered if anyone had got hold of a copy of the brochure 'Charitable Planning to Benefit Kingdom Service Worldwide' that was plugged in the Nov 1st WT?

It astounds me that(in the light of the scathing criticism the WT society is getting) that they dare to publish a booklet designed solely for begging purposes.

Anyone with a copy please scan us a few gems to keep us suitably disgusted.

What about the title of the accompanying article?
'The Blessing of Jehovah-that is what Makes Rich'should be re-phrased 'The Donations of the Living and especially the Charitably Planned Donations of the Dead-Make The WT Society Rich'

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Testimony of a JW becoming a Muslim

by sf in

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< http://www.sharif.org.uk/priests.htm.

raphael - former jehovah's witness minister .

a forty-two-year-old latino, raphael, is a los angeles-based comic and lecturer.

Free2Bme

Hi SF,

I enjoyed the testimony. Made me laugh.
As an ex-JW with Muslim hubby and in-laws I had to smile. When I lived in my husband's country it was amazing learning all the codes of conduct etc. People have so many misconceptions about Islam because they associate it with fanaticism. But Christian fanaticism has caused far more bloodshed.
Personally I think the world would be a better place without religion altogether. But that's not going to happen because us humans just love having something to mistrust, fight and hate eachother over.

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I NEED ADVICE DESPERATELY!!!

by concerned fiance in

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here is my situation: my fiance is now 27 years old.

he was raised as a jw from the age of 2 through 18. at that time, his whole family left the "truth" except for his older brother who had already married another woman from the faith.

for the past 9 years, he has been living his life to the fullest, but still loving god, praying often and he is a truly honest and moral person.

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Concerned,
Just wanted to say I think one or two comments have been a little harsh on your fiance.
I don't see his gut reaction as a self-preservation thing. More like a genuine fear he is ignoring a prod from God. Those moments of intense spiritual need hit the worst of us. It's easy to feel guilty after years of brainwashing from the society. He probably feels his choice is between God and you not his own life and you. If his concern was mainly for his own life then I agree with those that advised you to move on. But I'd like to think he is just a genuine guy who loved his God intensely once and never really got over it. Giving you up in that case would be a kind of bittersweet martyrdom ensuring God's favour and your fiances' relief despite his misery.

Hope you sort him out and help him recover from his JW deeprooted indoctrination. I'm sure he will be a different guy after his heart and mind is freed from it all.

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TY for Welcome, some Questions?????

by Cassiline in

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thank you all for the warm welcome!

it has been so hard living, believeing that i am an anomaly.

i realize that there are others out there who have lived and expierenced what i have.

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Hi Cassilene,

Just like to add my WELCOME.

It's pretty scary holding THAT book in your hands isn't it? Well just flip it open and get on with it. You won't get hit by a thunderbolt from heaven, only the thunderbolt-like realisation that the 'truth' IS'NT. Simple really.

I haven't read the follow up yet but I'm ordering it from Commentary asap. Let you know what I think.

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I Said Goodbye

by Farkel in

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my father was rushed by ambulance from his rest home to st. marks hospital in salt lake city, utah friday, but i only just heard about it.

i received a call from the floor nurse and she told me he is not expected to live.

his lungs are filled fill up with fluid and are continuing to fill u with more fluid: he has pneumonia.

Free2Bme

Farkel,
So sorry to hear of your loss.
Take care,

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satanism, witchcraft and devil worship. . . . . .

by DCs Ghost in

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contrary to popular belief and what society and the media will portray satanism, devil worship and witchcraft are 3 very independent systems of belief, .

sure, to those who are afraid of looking into books dealing with the occult, for fear of being possessed or what have you, i write this as a vent because it makes me laugh when i hear people assume that the three are the same, they aren't, .

and the reality is that even though the three get bunched up as the same, many times it is the ignorance of the practitioners which keeps the ignorance alive.

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I must admit to a certain curiosity and fear on these subjects. I have read books written by witches that scared the hell out of me. Maybe they were sensationalising their experiences but it certainly wasn't about getting at one with mother nature. I'll have to visit the library and get them out again to refresh my memory.

I've never met a Satanist (apart from one or two on the service years ago) but a friend of mine went out with one for a while. She says he used to nip out a lot late at night and leave her on her own so she pleaded to go with him. He took her to some dark secluded spot in the countryside and she waited at a distance while they acted pretty weird and was so terrefied she never asked to go again. A close friend of his told her to be careful cos he had done some awful things and she decided the romance had got too weird and broke it off. She says he took it well but freaked her out by saying he would always know where she was and would look out for her. Do you think he was having her on?
I don't know what to think really.
I'd like to believe these seemingly harmless definitions but my biblical upbringing is hard to shake off.
If Satanism is just selfishism isn't that the type of hedonistic spirit Satan would be delighted to see?

Still confused.

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