AGuest
Are you for real or are you taking the p?
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god is by definition all knowing.
as an omniscient being, what is there that would require faith on god's part?.
god tells us in the bible to be like him... "be ye perfect, even as your father in heaven is perfect".. .
AGuest
Are you for real or are you taking the p?
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as a jw, i was always disturbed by the inconsistency in the society's position on abortion / kids dying at armageddon.. the wt opposes abortion, calling it murder.
yet if a child is just one day old when armageddon comes, it will perish with it's parents, since the parents bear responsibility for their children.
so goes the wt line.. i could never reconcile these two viewpoints.
If I believed in the Biblical God I would have no trouble believing He would slaughter innocent babies.Aren't there plenty of examples of this in the OT (such a heartwarming read..)?
The blood-thirsty God of the OT was not moved by the wailing of babies.It was all for a just cause wasn't it?A kind of early example of Ethnic Cleansing.
The tone was set right at the beginning of time. Why then are we so horrified at atrocities going on in the name of war in our time? Were we not created by a God of war, the same God who though apparantly not partial chose one race and spurred them on to destroy all other races?
I can't understand how anyone can believe that the God of the scriptures "is love".
So I can accept that He would kill kids.
That's why I don't want to believe the Bible anymore and it's rather horrifying image of our creator.
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cybersex: real or fantasy!.
i would like to tell you good people a story and when i'm finished i would appreciate your honest opinion as i know you wouldn't give me anything less.
my wife and i have been fighting about a situation which recently arose in our home.
DM
Well as a wife I have found myself in situationsin chat rooms where men have been coming on. Momentarily I was tempted to flirt after all it is harmlessif you never meet isn't it?
Strangely enough though I felt disloyal to hubby and found myself escaping the situation pretty sharpish.
It did not feel right to me and I would hate it if hubby did it to me.It's flirtation however you try andjustify it and you are reacting to another man and feeling realfeelings of excitement etc.
I dunno what I would doif it cybersex was the issue.Is cyberadultery grounds for divorceyet. It would be in our house!!!
My sympathy is with you.Hope you sort it.
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whom do you trust?
according to apostates, god and his word can't be trusted because the bible is unreliable and jehovah god is a baby killer and murderer of innocent people.
trusting the watchtower is out of the question, because obviously, the whole thrust of the apostasy is aimed at discrediting the watchtower so as to create wicked suspicions and distrust in the minds of trusting ones, apparently with some success.
Yet again I am moved and overwhelmed by the scripture:
GOD IS LOVE
God maybe love but there is not much evidence of it in the biblical message.
One thing that stands out to me whenever I read a JW post or "speak" to one in a chat room is the complete lack of love they have for other people and how they feel they have a God-given right to put on the judges' wig.
When I left the "truth" I had nightmares about Armageddon. Now I face the future without fear. There's no bravado about that. It's just the way it is when your eyes are open.
As for You Know I think he is most of the time just venting his true vindictive nature because it must be such a strain putting on the sweet perfect xtian act for meetings and service. He must be panting to rip his God uniform off and hit his pc when he gets in!
God help you YK and I mean that most sincerely.
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amazings justice points brings me to this point.
elders truly believe that they are appointed by gods spirit.
so when they appoint someone who is:.
Appointed by Holy Spirit?
You'll be suggesting that HS is present in judicial committees next lol.
One of the elders in my former congregation before he was appointed felt he must clear up something with my friend, a young sister. He asked her if she was going to ever mention the fact that several years earlier he had sexually abused her. He said he was very sorry but he obviously was not regretful enough to confess his sins to the elders about to hand him the privelege of overseeing the congregation.
My friend promised to keep mum which was not hard as she was not exactly dying to shout it from the rooftops as most victims of abuse feel shame themselves.
This guy is still an elder to this day and the whole pathetic episode was all the proof I needed that HS is not involved in appointment of elders.
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at work i had this discussion with some of my buds, ..... what is the thing about the british, and irish, with drinking warm beer?
or at least room temperature?.
when i've done that, it dont do anything for me.
Gladiator
If you lived in Britain you would not find it a mockable offence to not have air-conditioning.
Lukewarm , laid-back and lager-hating hot or cold,
Free
i'm not being a pervert, really.
i was just wondering whether there was a psychological explanation for why people (women, i think) experience sex, when there's nobody physically there.. there's a lot made of this in dubdom, so i'm thnking there couldbe a connection with the dub 'culture'.. just curious.. philo (honestly, but still a male)
"Hey there all you pervy ones..."
Dunno if you can dismiss this as wet dreams.It happenad to a friend of mine when she was a witness and it was absolutely terrifying.She was pinned to the bed and raped by an unseen force and she was not dreaming!!It was not the only supernatural experience she had and all her family reported different incidents.I even had a ghostly vision one night when I stayed over. It's unlikely that we all were dreaming our incidents.
Of course as JW's we were taught that ghosts did not exist and that these weird visions were demonic.That made it even more frightening!!!
Dunno what I think about it anymore but I don't believe they are dreams.
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i know that the answer is yes, but it would help me to hear your sentiments on this.
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after you decided that the wbts, and thus jw's were not god's chosen earthly organization did you feel like you wanted to leave and forget god altogether?.
Faraon
Just to answer your questions..
Larger Mosques provide seperate areas for females to pray. In our city we have 2 local mosques where women are not permitted!When I lived in the middle east with my in-laws I rarely saw any males praying in the house but my M.I.L. was up at 5am every morning prostrating herself and several times during the day.
Women never take the lead.
Head covering required especially in mosques.
Another thing I found strange is in regard to cleanliness. After ablutions and ritual swilling and cleansing a Moslem is fit to pray but if a man touches a woman (such as a handshake) he is unclean and must start the ritual all over again.I found this out when a visitor called at the house and I went to welcome him and proferred my hand only to receive quite a snub!
I just asked my husband why and he now thinks I am considering conversion.Forget it!!!
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first of all i would like to congratulate everyone who takes time out to enlighten the rest of us regarding hypocritical jw's.we all know someone who is not quite the person they portray themselves to be at the meetings, that "wolf in sheeps clothing" so to speak.this brings me to my point:-.
is there any reason why we cannot name these individuals?.
i would love to tell all my ex-congregationial associates about mr ........ and mrs ........,but i am not in a position to, or am i??.
Hi FlabbyCabby
Just like to say "welcome".
As for naming and shaming I'm not sure what it would achieve apart from a revenge motive.
The point is names are not the issue. The issue is the exposure of hypocrasy and falsehood within the WTBS.
Doesn't matter what the name is we all will recognise the type from our own experiences in the JW's.
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How beautiful it is to do nothing and then rest afterwards...
since i left the org.
i have read some mind-boggling books on subjects such as mind-control, witchcraft, demonism, and conspiracy theories.. i obviously do not believe all i read but never-the-less have come across interesting real-life experiences that have made me wonder.. recently i read david icke's "the biggest secret" and found his theories on shape-shifting lizards ruling the world bizarre to say the least.. but something david icke said stopped me in mid-sneer.he said replace the lizards with demons if that was how you wanted to think of it.. it reminded me of a book i once borrowed from library about a young woman who was possessed by demons and described their shifting appearance as horrifically ugly or transforming to absolute visions of male beauty.. so if satan and his demons do rule this world as we were taught is it so unbelievable that they might possess influental people and certain individuals with psychic perception would be able to catch glimpses of them shape-shifting?.
anyone else familiar with icke's ideas and material?
Thanks for your responses.
I will check out the site you recommended Lindy and let you know what I think.
I'll also read the Sagan book as soon as I can get hold of it,Seeker.
MommieDark I like your comments about an open mind ending up full of shit.I know what you mean.I just love delving around though.And as for the shit - I just have to trust my mind to recognise it for what it is.After all I got there in the end re: WTBS.
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