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  Radical Apostasy v Liberal Apostasy

  by diamondblue1974 in

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  in the wake of the 'dannygate' issue it made me think about the impact of apostasy and it various forms and on some level how it equates to the feminist movement and its development over the years.. initially, the radical feminist movement were and are the typical man hating, bra burning cross section who undoubtedly moved womens rights foward significantly and to some degree still do.

  without the radical feminist movement, the likelihood of the liberal and more balanced feminist movements ever existing would have been uncertain if not improbable.

  so indirectly the feminist movement owes a lot to those radicals who were out there burning bra's and linching men (i was joking about the last bit).

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  I remember going to an assembly and seeing apostates picketing. I was a teenager at the time and all it did was make me think that all apostates were crazy freaks like I had been taught all my life. In my opinion we should try doing what gets better results. If someone had talked to me as a teenager and told me that you could live a decent life outside the organization and proven with their example some other JW concepts as being wrong, it would have gotten a better result. You have to do what works, and I don't think radical apostasy works. The impact of the internet is proof of this.
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  To my friends that are not in the US: Do you get this kind of propaganda?

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  i know a lot of brits, aussies, canadians, etc, always marvel at the arrogance, haughtiness, and cockiness of us tourists visiting their countries.

  or how mainstream us citizens just fall in line with anything that comes out of the government's mouth, accept any policy as "good", believe all that stuff about how "america is the greatest nation on earth!"..

  how it gets ingrained into the being of most us citizens?.

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  On the news??? And american values have been forgotten. It happened a while ago and it's happening all over the world, not just the States.
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  To my friends that are not in the US: Do you get this kind of propaganda?

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  i know a lot of brits, aussies, canadians, etc, always marvel at the arrogance, haughtiness, and cockiness of us tourists visiting their countries.

  or how mainstream us citizens just fall in line with anything that comes out of the government's mouth, accept any policy as "good", believe all that stuff about how "america is the greatest nation on earth!"..

  how it gets ingrained into the being of most us citizens?.

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  I agree with Jourles.....People should be able to look objectively at their government, their country, etc....Isn't that what being American is all about? Having the freedom to not salute the flag if you don't want to, or to be able to criticize the governement without being imprisoned or "disappering". Just because you criticize an aspect of the way things are handled doesn't mean that you are an ingrate or you hate the country. But you have to admit that their is a manipulating factor in the media that portrays the U.S. as the best country in the world. The most powerful. The best economic system, etc....Which in some instances is not correct. I believe China right now is more stable economically than the U.S. As with everything, one must investigate and look at the facts..Not just what is being fed to you on t.v.
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  To my friends that are not in the US: Do you get this kind of propaganda?

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  i know a lot of brits, aussies, canadians, etc, always marvel at the arrogance, haughtiness, and cockiness of us tourists visiting their countries.

  or how mainstream us citizens just fall in line with anything that comes out of the government's mouth, accept any policy as "good", believe all that stuff about how "america is the greatest nation on earth!"..

  how it gets ingrained into the being of most us citizens?.

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  The problem is not that Americans love their country. Many people are proud of where they come from. I think that is a good thing. It's a problem when you look down on all other countries. I think that is what irritates many people around the world about Americans. I often am amazed at the comments Americans make about other countries when they have never even been outside the U.S.

  I have friends who work in communications. My friend was telling me that they are running WWII documentaries on this spanish cultural channel glorifying It completely. perhaps in hopes of recruiting? Before in local newspapers a list of the soldiers that died would be listed to give support to families and give them recognition. They aren't allowed to do that anymore. Maybe too many soldiers dying overseas would decrease the morale??? Also photographs of the coffins with soldiers coming back to the States have been banned.

  Seriously people..don't be so naive.....you should watch the news from outside the U.S...It gives you a whole new perspective...
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  Bill Cosby, seems to be right.

  by free2beme in

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  i work for a telecommunications company and in so doing, i deal with a lot of fraud.

  now, what i am about to say could come across as racist and i hope people read the whole thing to get what i am saying and know i am not racist (... to add though, i really am past caring what people think).

  in the state of north carolina, you can run up your phone bill to $1000's and $1000's and by law you only have to pay basic local service to keep services on.

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  I also agree with the fact that it's a low income problem and not a race problem. I hear of many people taking advantage of welfare. People of all races. And there is also something to be said for intelligence and nutrition. I live in Peru and people who live outside the city are very malnourished. There is a correlation with low IQ and in general not thriving because of the poor dietary habits.

  The media in the states influences greatly the public opinion. That includes biased information against blacks.
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  I HAVE MADE A DECISION TO LEAVE

  by Maddie in

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  i haven't been on jwd for the last few days as my good friend had her mum die suddenly and i have been spending time just being there for my friend.. i was shocked and saddened to hear that trevor and linda was a sham.

  it's sometimes hard not to become cynical with life and not trust anyone when this sort of thing happens.. i have made a big decision and i hope that i don't live to regret it.

  i have posted that i have been trying to "fade" as my son and his family are jw's and i don't want to lose them because of being shunned.

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  I am feeling exactly as you do right at this moment. I also long to be true to myself and I see that the inevitable will happen soon. I will probably end up sending my letter. The thing is that I have small children and I would like them to see me as a person who is constant with her convictions and not ashamed or in hiding. I was thinking of just moving, but then I thought that maybe they would interpret that as though we had done something wrong. I know from what you have written your son is a staunch witness, but perhaps there will come a time when he will repsect the fact that you acted according to your convictions and beliefs. Whatever you decide, good luck.
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  Children at the meetings, how did you cope

  by Mrs Smith in

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  my son was about 5 years old when we stopped going to the meetings.

  the other day i asked him what he remembers about them (his now 14 years old).

  he remembered the puzzles i bought him to play with during the meetings.. he remembered that i packed a sandwich and some juice for him to eat in case he got hungry.. when he got board i use to take him outside for a walk around the kh garden.

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  ditto Mrs. Smith

  I often welcomed the break in garden from the meeting....If for whatever reason I was without my kids at the meeting I would be so ansy because I couldn't sit through the two hours myself.
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  How do you know...

  by coolhandluke in

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  if your so is cheating on you?

  well, she's not my so anymore.

  she decided a few days ago that she didn't have it in her to continue the relationship.

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  He's been much kinder to her the past few weeks and I had hoped that his humanity had kicked in and he'd turned over a new leaf but I just don't know. Is she with him? Are they intimate? Oh yeah one other thing, she would never tell him that I was living there and paying bills and helping care for her children.
  
  My ex and I have three children. After we first separated our relationship was very tense. Now after many months we are very chummy. We even have lunch together with the kids sometimes. Let me make this perfectly clear: I would NEVER NEVER NEVER go back with him. But having had some time after the initial pain of the breakup has passed I can have a friendly relationship with him. This doesn't mean that it's a deep friendship where I tell him everything. It's just kind of a superficial friendly thing..But it's a big difference from before.
  
  Now about the not telling him that you pay the bills...My ex specifically told me that if I had a new boyfriend who lived with me (or husband) he would lower his child support. He felt that he would be in some way supporting the new man in my life as well as his children. So I think your girlfriend is wise not to tell him. You never know how they will react.
  
  About the cheating thing...I don't know. I have three kids and I know I went through periods where I didn't want to be touched. But it was usually right after having a baby and I was burnt out. I was also depressed. There could be other explanations as well...But you are only one who has the whole picture before you, so I don't want to say either yes she is or no she isn't....
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  Show The Love....

  by saywhat29 in

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  okay i think everybody here understands anger, sadness, and fear, but you know.... this is going to be the strangest thread ever, might be even out of place but.... what are some of the things you miss and/or love about your family and friends, yes the jws ones.

  because only people who you love like hell can put a deep cut into your chest like that.

  and no i don't think this is a jw apologist kind of thread, at least i don't think so because acknowledging the horrible stuff people do to you (us) doesn't mean that we have to forget about all the positive things and good qualities of a person.. like my mom for instance.

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  mentalclearness

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/140159/2508138/post.ashx#2508138
  
  
  Yeah I love my mom too!!!!!!! She's awesome...She told me a couple weekends ago that she loves me and my kiddies very much and that my choice to not attend meetings anymore will not change that.....
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  How many of you had book studies held in your home?

  by FreedomFrog in

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  my ex and i did for several years in our new home.

  i was excited at first because that meant we were "good" dubs.

  after about 6 months someone stuck their finger in our candle we had burning in the bathroom and splashed wax all over our new bathroom wall.

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  mentalclearness

  As a child we had the book study at our house. As an adult I don't think I was a good enough example in the congregation to get the "privilege".....