Posts by freeme

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new september 2007 Kingdom Ministry Qbox

by patientbrother in

brothers i absolutely had to join this web site once i saw the new km for this coming month, has any one else had a chance to view this?

i'm absolutely flabbergasted for the first time in my life, what about the the apostle paul and the bereans?

didn't he encourage them to go and find out for them selves the truth?

freeme

welcome to the board. glad you can see instead of dont think.

but its so sad that so many who are in are totally blind to that stuff and even think the september km is a loving blessing from god (including my wife who gets upset and calls me a god-hater for showing her scripture which encourages what the WTS discourages).

since i woke up i feel so disgusted over so many things. the circuit overseer near worshipping. "what a precious special week it is!" "gifts in men - such a blessing". happiness over the sep km. i realized that on the convention nearly nothing was said. it was just three days of guilt, no real bible study, no real help for the faith. at some point it sometimes sounds like they dont even need the bible. its just a little tool on the side. what is refreshing when you're told 3 days not to go for education, dont use the internet, dont have own opinions. dont, dont, dont.

at least the bible says the truth: they will beat their own brothers. the lost son was welcomed back with a big celebration. dfed once who come back get an judgement by humans and an annoucement where it is forbidden to clap for.

its so sick.

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Life on the doors now

by wherehasmyhairgone in

the last time i went on the field service was around the very early 90's.

i have a genuine question for any jw that are active in the door to door work still.. i lived for finding the person that wanted to debate things, i would always be the one to call on the local atheist, vicar, etc etc.

and would hammer home all that was had learnt and research myself with the wts literature of course.

freeme

i think 99% of the ppl are noninformed as always. nobody looks up info to destroy jw arguments if they arent affiliated to them.

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For those of you who have loved ones on the inside....

by Hermano in

my wife is still on the inside.

sometimes i dont care about that or about the wtbts's nonsense.

and then some days, i wake up and i have all this anger inside.

freeme

i can relate to you, man. but we all know that it doesnt work this way.we all were believing jws once and we know what alarm bell rings at critics. stay strong!

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Project #2 - planting some doubts

by The Oracle in

get hemoglobin from blood donations), why don't jehovah's witnesses.

is it true that you people were a part of.

3)objection:.

freeme

as the jw i used to be i wouldnt read further than the first "overcome".

its way to obvious that its "apostate lies" all over :| the questions need to be more "householder like" and the answer need make some kind of "sense" like WT speak.

we want to plant a seed not a whole mammoth tree...

edit: to make it clear: in my opinion it has to written in such a way that 1 of 10 jws actually put it in their bible for ministry :) tough task though.

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What is your heritage?

by greendawn in

jw
friends

so what is it?

i say mine is english with an admixture of german (before the nazis ever existed, no need to go on about that) northern french and italian from venice.

i look northern european and feel close to that part of the world with family tradition being roman catholic.

freeme

both parents german and a little russian far, far away.

according to the first post i am a communist-nazi (lol!!) now to some ppl? O_o i doubt that heritage has anything to do with political believes :P

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Point out biblical principles JW's omit to follow

by JH in

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jesus said these words:.

"if you desire to be perfect," replied jesus, "go and sell all that you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have wealth in heaven; and come, follow me.".

i never heard elders ask jw's to reach out into their abundance and help poor jw's....have you?.

freeme

My favorite -"When he was a long way off (the prodigal son) his father ran out to greet him, threw him a party and rejoiced.. The way the WTS does it " He approached the elders who said come to meetings for another 6 months and in the meantime brothers can't speak to you nor you to them. Then we will reconvene the JC and see if you are repentant. then we will announce to the congregation but they will not be allowed even to clap their hands and certainly not throw a party.

wow, man, that was new to me! didnt thought about that yet. thank you!

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This sounds like it comes from the Watchtower...lol

by JH in

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http://www.upi.com/newstrack/science/2007/08/18/internet_addiction_more_serious_than_ocd/9316/.

internet addiction more serious than ocd.

tel aviv, israel, aug. 18 (upi) -- internet addiction should be grouped with extreme addictive disorders such as gambling, sex addiction and kleptomania, an israeli psychiatrist said.. .

freeme

OF COURSE can the internet be addictive.

it satisfies humans need for social contacts and knowledge better than ANYTHING before in human history. fulfilling needs makes you feel good. and everything that can make you feel good is addictive. everything!

and i have to confess that i feel a urge to use it because its just so fascinating and i always have something to look up :D

but i wont say that im addicted though. when in holidays i dont miss it at all.

but i dont wanna live without it again. its a modern worldwonder.

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The Origins of Halloween...

by drew sagan in

i found this article interesting: .

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surprise: halloween's not a pagan festival after all

freeme

isnt everything pagan which comes from any religion/cult/whatever which is not the jws?

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Ever been completely embarrassed by the householder in field service?

by fedorE in

i recall i was in service with ken little, the canadian branch committee overseer, and he took the first door.

the magazines were talking about nuclear war and its impending disaster.

so ken little introduces himself and says "good morning sir,did you know that every minute they spend millions of dollars on the manufacturing of weapons......" the homeowner looks straight at him and says "yeah?

freeme

mmh... i cant recall a really embarassing moment. maybe when i was doing my first real steps on my own preaching and being unexperienced... but i never found someone in service who gave me the impression to be more educated in bible topics than me.

100 posts! ;D

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"Reform Movement" Disproves Core Doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses

by freeme in

just found it in the news and wanna know watcha think about it.

its about the 1914 doctrine and why it is false using the bible alone.. 607 bce vs. jeremiah the prophet .

according to jeremiah 52:12-13, the babylonian king nebuchadnezzar destroyed jerusalem and the first temple in the nineteenth year of his reign.

freeme

No, there are discussions on these types of topics. You forget this topic especially has been done and done and done. If you are looking to show the 1914 doctrine is false I would suggest 'Captives of a Concept (Anatomy of an Illusion)' by Don Cameron. He does an excellent job.
Personally I have done the 1914 thing to death with my jw, it is so utterly assinine I just don't care anymore.

yeah, of course its discussed over and over again. but i thought that one maybe a new one. i didnt understand it completely though. to be honest none of the 1914 is wrong threads i read were completely convincing to me. okay, the 1914 is true side from the wts is neither convincing to me. lol.